But Christians would never go apeshit over art

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IT'S A FREEKIN' ART MUSEUM! THAT'S WHAT THEY DO!

No, they display offensive art when they are in favor of offending those intended to be offended. There is a big difference.

whatever...they can display what they want... I just find it interesting how the bigots lash out at the group rather than the perp...biased bigotry, indeed.

overall hypocritical at best.

Does anyone else see the irony here?


The only thing I could possibly add is "wadded up panties choke off brain functions."

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I'm offended! I'm offended!

Execute that man because he offended me!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!



What a sad way to live one's life.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Strictly speaking to the public funding-Separation of church and state is desired when religion or religious morals are being promoted but as long as it's religion bashing-you're in favor?

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Strictly speaking to the public funding-Separation of church and state is desired when religion or religious morals are being promoted but as long as it's religion bashing-you're in favor?

Not quite, bashing of Islam isn't to be tolerated.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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Strictly speaking to the public funding-Separation of church and state is desired when religion or religious morals are being promoted but as long as it's religion bashing-you're in favor?

Not quite, bashing of Islam isn't to be tolerated.

Interesting, since the Muslim-bashing by non-Muslims in this forum proceeds apace at a steady - virtually daily - basis. It also out-numbers the Christian-bashing by about 100 to 1.

PLUS: I don't see many people who were not born Christian doing the Christian-bashing in here. Mainly it's people who were born and raised Christian and finally got sick of the shit.

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Perhaps he could redo the picture to promote the same picture featuring Mohammad, just for equal time and all.

Would that be OK to display at a city owned Museum?

It depends on the context and the artist involved.

Here is a clue for the nitwits whining about art displays that they may find offensive - you don't have the right to NOT be offended.

Just as I have to tolerate the presence of christian sayings and the glorification of christian religious objects and symbols, you have to tolerate the mockery of those very same objects and symbols. If christian displays can be hosted in publicly funded art museums, then those same art museums can host art that mocks those displays.

The USA is very diverse and has lot of different kinds of people, with different kinds of beliefs. That is what makes this a great country. Forcing everyone into a certain way of thinking or being is not the American way. Quite the contrary.

WTF is wrong with people these days? Is the concentrated ownership of the media, and the unified messages presented by them, that convincing to the people these days? Whatever happened to independent thinking and critical anaysis? Too much TV, not enought reading, video games and test based education seem to have withered those qualities away.

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Strictly speaking to the public funding-Separation of church and state is desired when religion or religious morals are being promoted but as long as it's religion bashing-you're in favor?

Not quite, bashing of Islam isn't to be tolerated.

Interesting, since the Muslim-bashing by non-Muslims in this forum proceeds apace at a steady - virtually daily - basis. It also out-numbers the Christian-bashing by about 100 to 1.

PLUS: I don't see many people who were not born Christian doing the Christian-bashing in here. Mainly it's people who were born and raised Christian and finally got sick of the shit.

We really need to recruit some hindu's to this forum.... they have lots of sacred cows that need to be poked at.

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Strictly speaking to the public funding-Separation of church and state is desired when religion or religious morals are being promoted but as long as it's religion bashing-you're in favor?

As long as it's not at a place where there is a conflict of interest I don't see it as being that big of an issue.

Art museum; fine as long as open to all points of view (except obvious destructive as in this case)
City Hall; not fine.
Library; fine as long open to books on all points of view.
Court House; not fine.
Town Bandstand; fine as long as open to al points of view.

Does that help clarify things?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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I don't believe you are being genuine.

If a depiction of Mohammad was shown at a museum, the museum would back down and remove it for fear.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I don't believe you are being genuine.
If a depiction of Mohammad was shown at a museum, the museum would back down and remove it for fear.

And I think we can agree, yes, you and I agree, that this is a pitiful state of affairs.

This is EXACTLY why I made the comments about CNN and the station originally reporting were being douchebags for not showing the piece in their stories and that the Christians seemed to have them in the same state of panic as they are about pictures of Muhammad.

It's a pitiful state of affairs.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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maybe the religion of peacers don't want peace...
http://www.hannity.com/article/faisal-shahzad-war-with-muslims-has-just-begun/11887

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maybe the religion of peacers don't want peace...
http://www.hannity.com/article/faisal-shahzad-war-with-muslims-has-just-begun/11887

What religion are members of the KKK? See the problem?

It's not the religion, it's the extremists that attempt to use it as a recruitment tool and a shield.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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>maybe the religion of peacers don't want peace...

You mean the religion that just took a crowbar to a piece of art? Yep. If I recall correctly, you belong to her religion. When will you stop the violence?

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WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I'm offended! I'm offended!

Execute that man because he offended me!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

What a sad way to live one's life.

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I don't believe you are being genuine.
If a depiction of Mohammad was shown at a museum, the museum would back down and remove it for fear.

And I think we can agree, yes, you and I agree, that this is a pitiful state of affairs.

This is EXACTLY why I made the comments about CNN and the station originally reporting were being douchebags for not showing the piece in their stories and that the Christians seemed to have them in the same state of panic as they are about pictures of Muhammad.

It's a pitiful state of affairs.

I'm wondering why this thread is still going. I'm pretty sure I covered all the bases in the second post in the thread.

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What, did I miss the part where church leaders are calling for the artist to be killed? Did someone suggest beheading the artist? Have there been riots and mass protests that the news didn't report?

Of course the woman is a dumbass. She's also being charged as she should, so the system will take its course. Paul, I know you're mostly California based, but I was in NYC for the Piss Christ bruhaha. A lot of people were pussed off. They were pissed off that tax dollars were supporting disgusting things called art that attacked religion. I'm sure some of them would have destroyed the "art" of they could. But I don't remember death threats or artists having to change their name and go into hiding.

Yes morons and fanatics of all religions and ideologies do stupid things and make the larger group look bad, but let's not pretend all things are equal.

By the way, did you notice in the sixth post of the thread that one media station did have the cajones to post a picture of the piece before it was destroyed? Funny that, it was FOXNews. If it were the crazy Christians preventing this from being shown, wouldn't you think the right elaning station would've been the first to listen to their audience and not show it? It looks to me like CNN is just too PC.

And my particular favorite was quade quoting the creator of this piece:

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And the artist in question says that's not true.

Without actually seeing the work though, how the hell am I supposed to know which is the truth and which is the myth?

Check in the sixth post of the thread. Looks like the artist in question is a liar.

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http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/09/woman-charged-for-destroying-controversial-jesus-art-in-colorado/?hpt=T2

What I think is particularly despicable is the Chirstians appear to have the news as spooked over this as it would over a piece showing Muhammad.

Show the flippin' piece of art you douchbags. How the are we supposed to know whether it's "offensive" or not if we can't see it?

I don't know. I have no problem with porn or people pushing boundaries, but is it right to deliberately offend people? This is probably in the same league as Mohammed with a bomb turban which doesn't make it right or wrong just an observation.

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

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I don't believe that Quade has ever objected to the vast quantity of religious art that's shown in most museums around the country. Most art before about 1500 was religious, right?

A de-facto acceptance of Christianity by the US Government would constitute a failure of the separation of church and state. That means that if Christians can make fun of atheists, then atheists can make fun of Christians. If Christians can say that someone needs to get a thicker skin, then Baha'i can say that Christians need to get a thicker skin.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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you call that violence ? , by no means , it was performance art !

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you call that violence ? , by no means , it was performance art !

CNN must be covering up the mass loss of life from this extremist.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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You mean the religion that just took a crowbar to a piece of art? Yep. If I recall correctly, you belong to her religion. When will you stop the violence?

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So when does censorship become a bad thing? Is it that you just don't happen to agree with her opinion. You don't hesitate to censor content here on this web site.


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if only she was a religion of peacer comic hero art fan... like obuma
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/trading_cape_for_the_burqa_SVLKS5gF1HlJugmRPFJepL

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So when does censorship become a bad thing?

Pretty much always.

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You don't hesitate to censor content here on this web site.

Excuse me?

The moderation staff here is VERY hesitant to censor content. What we won't hesitate to do is stop an on-line fight between users, but you are free to post any just about any idea or image you want to. The only real hard and fast exceptions are personal attacks and anything having to do with pedophilia.

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So when does censorship become a bad thing?

Pretty much always.

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You don't hesitate to censor content here on this web site.

Excuse me?

The moderation staff here is VERY hesitant to censor content. What we won't hesitate to do is stop an on-line fight between users, but you are free to post any just about any idea or image you want to. The only real hard and fast exceptions are personal attacks and anything having to do with pedophilia.

That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Oh gee, Larry the Cable Guy chimes in.

Why is that funny? Because some freaks are for the free exchange of kiddie porn? That has zero to do with this site's censorship and everything to do with international law.

We're just not going down that road. If other people would like to, feel free to use some other web site.

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that is dangerously close to a PA imho.

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That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Oh gee, Larry the Cable Guy chimes in.

Why is that funny? Because some freaks are for the free exchange of kiddie porn? That has zero to do with this site's censorship and everything to do with international law.

We're just not going down that road. If other people would like to, feel free to use some other web site.

Nope . . . wrong again, almighty Holier Than Thou.

This is what I found amusing.

Careful . . . I copied and pasted it from your previous post.

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you are free to post any just about any idea or image you want to.

Riiiight . . . not without being stalked by a Moderator that has an OCD compulsion about researching jokes that he doesn't agree with to try to discredit them from being a few weeks or monts old.

I am sure he does this all from memory and doesn't actually have to search the internet using a search engine, because it is so over used that the subject matter simply cannot be relevant anymore.

Riiiight - free to express any thought.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun