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Another Hypothetical: Kill a Suicidal Man/Woman for Money?

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A man/woman offers you his/her entire savings to pull the trigger. He/she wants to die, but cannot do it themselves for religious reasons.

Would you?

If so, under what circumstances?



What is funny to me in listening to responses is the varying amounts of money that would make it "worth it", and the varying factors (like if he/she was in pain/dying soon anyway) and--of course--the trigger-puller's own factors in their life and what good they would do with the money. And if not you, then the suicidal man/woman will find someone else, so why not you?



Everyone gets upset when the OP does not acknowledge his/her position, so I will go ahead and say, I am 99% sure I could/would never do it. But, if that man/woman were drowning along with my cat, and I could only save one, I would save my cat and donate half the money. B|:P
"Nature is cruel, but we don't have to be." ~ Temple Grandin

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A man/woman offers you his/her entire savings to pull the trigger. He/she wants to die, but cannot do it themselves for religious reasons.

Would you?

If so, under what circumstances?



What is funny to me in listening to responses is the varying amounts of money that would make it "worth it", and the varying factors (like if he/she was in pain/dying soon anyway) and--of course--the trigger-puller's owner factors in their life and what good they would do with the money. And if not you, then the suicidal man/woman will find someone else, so why not you?



Everyone gets upset when the OP does not acknowledge his/her position, so I will go ahead and say, I am 99% sure I could/would never do it. But, if that man/woman were drowning along with my cat, and I could only save one, I would save my cat and donate half the money. B|:P



What about a turtle?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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A man/woman offers you his/her entire savings to pull the trigger. He/she wants to die, but cannot do it themselves for religious reasons.

Would you?

If so, under what circumstances?



What is funny to me in listening to responses is the varying amounts of money that would make it "worth it", and the varying factors (like if he/she was in pain/dying soon anyway) and--of course--the trigger-puller's owner factors in their life and what good they would do with the money. And if not you, then the suicidal man/woman will find someone else, so why not you?



Everyone gets upset when the OP does not acknowledge his/her position, so I will go ahead and say, I am 99% sure I could/would never do it. But, if that man/woman were drowning along with my cat, and I could only save one, I would save my cat and donate half the money. B|:P



What about a turtle?

yes, I would shoot a suicidal turtle
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The funny thing is, people do a lot worse for a lot less every day and nobody says boo about it. It's only when it's put in these personal terms people get self-righteous and indignant.

It's how the question is phrased. It's why you "believe" you're pulling the trigger.
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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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The funny thing is, people do a lot worse for a lot less every day and nobody says boo about it. It's only when it's put in these personal terms people get self-righteous and indignant.

It's how the question is phrased. It's why you "believe" you're pulling the trigger.



I would simply phrase the question as : "How much did you have in mind to spend?"
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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The funny thing is, people do a lot worse for a lot less every day and nobody says boo about it. It's only when it's put in these personal terms people get self-righteous and indignant.
It's how the question is phrased. It's why you "believe" you're pulling the trigger.


I would simply phrase the question as : "How much did you have in mind to spend?"



Great. You're a mercenary.

What if we take the quid pro quo out of the equation?
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The funny thing is, people do a lot worse for a lot less every day and nobody says boo about it. It's only when it's put in these personal terms people get self-righteous and indignant.
It's how the question is phrased. It's why you "believe" you're pulling the trigger.


I would simply phrase the question as : "How much did you have in mind to spend?"


Great. You're a mercenary.

What if we take the quid pro quo out of the equation?


Lets be serious now . . . It would take me a LOT more than a quid.:ph34r:

ETA: Would a mercenary do a mercy killing?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I agree. I_did_say there is a 99% chance I could/would not do it.

Having said that, I am not against the "right" to end one's life willfully. The 1% of the question for me lies in the event someone is suffering with little-to-no-hope of survival and it is either I put them out of their misery or let them slowly die in misery. I would put an animal out of its misery; would I/should I not a man? For me, the money would not be a factor. But, baring such extreme circumstances, a random with a few mill to give me to pull a trigger would not inspire me to do so. Even in my extreme example, I would find it difficult, but so do most people that must "pull the plug" and say goodbye.
"Nature is cruel, but we don't have to be." ~ Temple Grandin

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A man/woman offers you his/her entire savings to pull the trigger. He/she wants to die, but cannot do it themselves for religious reasons.

Would you?



No, not least because I'd probably be jailed for murder. Money's not much use in prison.

Even without that - someone I don't know who's just depressed? No.

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If so, under what circumstances?



If, say, a close friend was suffering from a terminal illness and needed help to go out on their terms, that is something I would do, and not for money.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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The funny thing is, people do a lot worse for a lot less every day and nobody says boo about it. It's only when it's put in these personal terms people get self-righteous and indignant.
It's how the question is phrased. It's why you "believe" you're pulling the trigger.


I would simply phrase the question as : "How much did you have in mind to spend?"



Great. You're a mercenary.

What if we take the quid pro quo out of the equation?



What then, (looking for your term) is a Dr. who will help for the price of an office call?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I'm with you. And I had this conversation with my mother. That would have been incredibly hard, and fortunately we never got there.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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What then, (looking for your term) is a Dr. who will help for the price of an office call?



Doctor.



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I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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If, say, a close friend was suffering from a terminal illness and needed help to go out on their terms, that is something I would do, and not for money.



I am relatively sure, I could not do it even in this case
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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When I was young, I hunted. Sometimes, you had to
kill a wounded animal without a gun. The first time you do that, it changes you.

I knew someone with cancer. Last year of their life on chemo 3 days a week. The other 3 days, throwing up.
Last 6 months in a bed. Too much pain to move.

This person never drank or did drugs their entire life.
The last month of their life was a haze on pain killers.

The last 3 days on morphine.
When even close to awake, the pain would bring them
back to agony.

If the morphine was increased, they wouldn't wake up.

True story. If given the choice, I would have given them a peaceful sleep that they would not have woken up from.

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in heaven all their pain will be replaced with joy . NO ONE knows the limits of the human ability to endure pain !
we lost two great ones today long before their time , one i remember best for his best supporting actor in spartacus, the other a gladiator of comedy
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This is not unique. This is how most people die. (From long term illness.) Most people don't realize how disturbing death can look at the very end. Lung cancer and Leukemia being the worst. And almost all family members feel the same way you do. I would venture to guess that out of the hundereds of dying pts I've taken care of, about 10% of family members have hinted it would be ok if I just increased the morphine drip. And 3 specifically I remember just downright asked me.

To the OP, I have seen the worst of the worst. Things you can't imagine and wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy. And even though I have the means, no way would I help in that.

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