nigel99 651 #1 September 28, 2010 My boys are 10 years old and I have been slowly letting them take responsibility for owning penknives. They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them. Well today we got a call from the head-teacher one of them smuggled his swiss army knife off to school for bragging rights. Now we are in a shit load of trouble for allowing our son to carry a weapon. Under UK law he is wrong and he had no business taking it to school. My wife is trying to convince the school that a pen-knife is not a weapon and that while he has done wrong - it was not a weapon. I was going to take him down to the local police station for a "chat" with the person at the desk - but have thought the better of it as god knows what over-reacting bureaucrat I run into and we end up getting charged. Anyway I am really pissed at him as it has taken my about a year to convince my wife that despite the culture here regarding knives they need to learn to treat them responsibly.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 September 28, 2010 You said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights." The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Throttlebender 0 #3 September 28, 2010 QuoteYou said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights." The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law. So what IS the problem?Life expands or contracts in proportion to one's courage. ~Anais Nin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #4 September 28, 2010 QuoteYou said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights."The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law.your problem expertise is lacking ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 September 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteYou said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights." The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law. So what IS the problem? I swear, subtext is lost on a full 30% of the population. Use just the smallest amount of deductive logic. The real problem is the child doesn't respect the words of the father.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 651 #6 September 28, 2010 QuoteYou said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights." The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law. um smuggling it to school is the symptom and you are right his disobedience is the main problem. My wife is on side and the school is right to not allow knives (we have no problem with that). I dislike the UK law as I feel responsible use of a penknife is healthy (his actions were not responsible if I wasn't clear in the first post). The fact that I feel UK knife laws are excessive is really a side-note. My wifes argument with the school is terminology (and follows 95% of the gun arguments here) in that a pen-knife that he uses for carving is a tool and NOT a weapon. She has no problem that he is in deep trouble for taking it to school (in fact she wants to confiscate the knife for good) she would like the teacher to understand that it wasn't taken in as a weapon which is what was stated.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 September 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote You said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights." The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law. So what IS the problem? I swear, subtext is lost on a full 30% of the population. Use just the smallest amount of deductive logic. The real problem is the child doesn't respect the words of the father. Perhaps if you didn't generally speak to us underlings with quite so much contempt, it would be more obvious.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #8 September 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou said, "They have been allowed to use them under strict supervision and not allowed to leave the house with them." You say he took it "to school for bragging rights."The problem isn't your wife, the school or UK law.So what IS the problem?I swear, subtext is lost on a full 30% of the population. Use just the smallest amount of deductive logic.The real problem is the child doesn't respect the words of the father.i could be a 30%er , i deduced you are the problem ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 September 28, 2010 Quote Perhaps if you didn't generally speak to us underlings with quite so much contempt, it would be more obvious. Turtle . . . not contempt . . . in this case it's more like pity.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 September 28, 2010 Quote Quote Perhaps if you didn't generally speak to us underlings with quite so much contempt, it would be more obvious. Turtle . . . not contempt . . . in this case it's more like pity. I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #11 September 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Perhaps if you didn't generally speak to us underlings with quite so much contempt, it would be more obvious. Turtle . . . not contempt . . . in this case it's more like pity. I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days. And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #12 September 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Perhaps if you didn't generally speak to us underlings with quite so much contempt, it would be more obvious. Turtle . . . not contempt . . . in this case it's more like pity. I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days. And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? the 30%ers ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,603 #13 September 28, 2010 Quote And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 2 #14 September 29, 2010 Quote I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days. And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? The fool. As in, "I pity the fool!" I should be ashamed for knowing that.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 September 29, 2010 Quote Quote I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days. And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? The fool. As in, "I pity the fool!" I should be ashamed for knowing that.I can still see him saying that and even flexing when he does it . . . quite amusing in my head.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #16 September 29, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I can see you hvae reverted back to your "MrT" days. And who exactly is it that Mr. T pities? The fool. As in, "I pity the fool!" I should be ashamed for knowing that. I can still see him saying that and even flexing when he does it . . . quite amusing in my head.he gained notariety for dwarf tossing , can't get THAT image out of my head ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
