dreamdancer 0 #326 September 6, 2011 the international legality of the blockade is still being decided...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #327 September 6, 2011 Quotethe international legality of the blockade is still being decided... oh, really? Well, at least you've shifted from your insistence that it was illegal. But you're still trying to claim that those soldier boarded the boats with non lethal weapons yet intended to murder the people aboard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #328 September 6, 2011 it was illegal because it was still in international waters... (meanwhile israel can't even be bothered to apologise for murder)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #329 September 6, 2011 the war drums start... QuoteThe likelihood of an all-out regional war in the Middle East is increasing, the head of the IDF Home Front Command said on Monday, Channel 10 reported. Speaking to the Institute for National Security Studies, Major General Eyal Eisenberg said that such a conflict could potentially include the use of weapons of mass destruction. Eisenberg cautioned that the Arab Spring could turn into the "Radical Islamic Winter". http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-home-front-command-likelihood-of-all-out-middle-east-war-increasing-1.382728stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #330 September 6, 2011 Quoteit was illegal because it was still in international waters... The UN, your favorite arbiter, disagrees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #331 September 6, 2011 Quoteit was illegal because it was still in international waters... This is legally false. But you don't care. You just make shit up. Whatever. Enjoy your trolling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #332 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteit was illegal because it was still in international waters... The UN, your favorite arbiter, disagrees. no it doesn't...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #333 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteit was illegal because it was still in international waters... This is legally false. But you don't care. You just make shit up. Whatever. Enjoy your trolling. no, you're the troll... (now toddle along troll)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #334 September 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteit was illegal because it was still in international waters... The UN, your favorite arbiter, disagrees. no it doesn't... Yes, it does. You don't even try to get it right, just as long as you bark something back. Grow up already. Quoteno, you're the troll... ETA: "I know you are but what am I"? How old are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #335 September 6, 2011 learn your facts troll... QuoteThe flotilla was attacked in international waters, 65km off the Gaza coast. Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman, confirmed that the attack took place in international waters, saying: "This happened in waters outside of Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves." Footage from the flotilla's lead vessel, the Mavi Marmara, showed armed Israeli soldiers boarding the ship and helicopters flying overhead. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/05/201053133047995359.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #336 September 6, 2011 You don't even bother to comprehend the posts you "answer". I said you're legally incorrect. We know it was in international waters. A nation is allowed to enforce a blockade in international waters; it need not wait until territorial boundaries are crossed. You don't even try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #337 September 6, 2011 QuoteTurkey has said it will challenge Israel's blockade of Gaza at the International Court of Justice (ICJ). It is the latest sign of strain between the countries since last year's Israeli action against ships heading for Gaza, in which nine Turks were killed. Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Turkey did not accept the findings of a UN report which said Israel's blockade of Gaza was a legal security measure. His comments came a day after Turkey expelled the Israeli ambassador. It also halted military co-operation with Israel. Speaking on state-run Turkish TV, Mr Davutoglu said the UN report, prepared by former New Zealand Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer and former Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, had not been endorsed by the UN and was therefore not binding. "What is binding is the ICJ," he went on. "This is what we are saying: let the ICJ decide." Some activists on the Mavi Marmara attacked commandos as they landed on the ship Turkey, he added, would start the necessary legal procedures in the coming week. Based in The Hague, the ICJ is a permanent UN court set up to rule on state-to-state disputes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14777558stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #338 September 6, 2011 I'm not talking about the UN report. I'm talking about established, existing international law. You don't even try to answer on-point; you just bark shit back as quickly as you can. I'm not getting sucked further into your dream-dance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #339 September 6, 2011 it looks like the ICJ will decide on the legality of the blockade... (separate to the technical legality is the use of disproportionate force - which the latest un report confirms yet again)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #340 September 6, 2011 QuoteI'm not talking about the UN report. I'm talking about established, existing international law. You don't even try to answer on-point; you just bark shit back as quickly as you can. I'm not getting sucked further into your dream-dance. You can argue on that front, I'm arguing the other angle. The UN committee released a report, thus claims it did not endorse it ring false. DD and the Turkish FM would like to see findings by mob democracy, rather than an honest review of the facts. But you're right - he doesn't even try. It's like a cat playing with a lizard, except the lizard is legless and dead already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #341 September 6, 2011 Quoteit looks like the ICJ will decide on the legality of the blockade... What, no news citation here? Probably because you're trying to disguise that Turkey is requesting the ICJ review it (ie, appealing the verdict). And it will lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #342 September 6, 2011 we can banter away to our hearts content here stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #343 September 6, 2011 Quote we can banter away to our hearts content here great, the americans win - with boatloads full of guns - probably for both parties.. pun intended! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #344 September 6, 2011 Quote Quote we can banter away to our hearts content here great, the americans win - with boatloads full of guns only if the chinese give them permission...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #345 September 7, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf we're still talking about the original flotilla, they stated that they were ready to martyr themselves for the cause. no they didn't... Yes, they did. QuoteYesterday the wife of one of the men, Ali Haydar Bengi, said he “constantly prayed to become a martyr”. Mr Bengi, 39, who had four children, had studied at al-Azhar University in Cairo, a leading seat of Islamic learning. “Before embarking on the journey, he said he desired to become a martyr,” his friend, Sabir Ceylan, said. You were saying? Don't say I never did anything for you Mikee Yes, they did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #346 September 7, 2011 no they didn't... QuoteSuch descriptions would be regarded by many Muslims as evidence that they put religious duty before their lives, rather than an admission that they were heading to battle. (ball back in your court - now what more can you make up to slander the dead. next you'll be telling us those jews and gypsies wanted to go into the concentration camps)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #347 September 7, 2011 Quote no they didn't... Quote Such descriptions would be regarded by many Muslims as evidence that they put religious duty before their lives, rather than an admission that they were heading to battle. (ball back in your court - now what more can you make up to slander the dead. next you'll be telling us those jews and gypsies wanted to go into the concentration camps) There were plenty of reports as pointed out to all the idiots out there who only believe the tripe fed to them by HAHARETZ DOT COM and the other sites popular with Hamas... since you don't believe us PROVE they were not doing a martyrdom operation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #348 September 7, 2011 just for you... QuoteAbbas confirmed this week that he has held secret talks with the Israeli president and defense minister in recent weeks, but was unable to reach any breakthrough. In a separate matter, an Israeli defense official said Tuesday that the military has temporarily suspended its contentious policy of demolishing illegally built Palestinian homes in the West Bank. The official said the order was issued after determining the policy is not equally enforced against illegally built Jewish settler homes. Palestinians have bitterly complained that demolitions are arbitrary and lopsided and that it's difficult for them to get Israeli construction permits. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the order, which was issued in an internal memorandum. He didn't say how long the order would last. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/palestinians-we-won-t-surrender-to-u-s-pressure-to-drop-un-bid-1.382934stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #349 September 7, 2011 Quote"we know....?" really? you nor I actually have any idea what their motives were. Ah.... Yes, we do know. Clearly Evident... when you take people at their word. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk Know your History... Know your Enemy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-StrVzf5PeQ&feature=player_embedded Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Hey hey hey, hey hey hey. Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return Khaibar, Khaibar, O Jews.The Army of Muhammad will return We will crawl and fight. With our blood, we will fight. We will crawl and fight. With our blood we will fight. Ah, Ah. You will not cross over my blood, over my blood. You will not live in my homeland, in my homeland. You will not cross over my blood, over my blood. You will not live in my homeland, in my homeland. Death to you…under the ground, and glory to us above the ground. Death to you under the ground, and glory to us above the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #350 September 7, 2011 Know thine enemy: http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/uloveme.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites