Trouble Spelling?

[rushmc 23]

Blame your liberal public school program/curriculum indoctrinators.

Take your pick

This is what I went through.

I was going to post this in the other tread for Wendy but it seemed to me it needed its own thread

Have fun


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Whole+language+failure&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CSHuLVyOaTOj3O5HCNtju8SYAAACqBAVP0Ns4kw

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,589]

I don't buy it. I'm not talking about casual conversation, typos, grammaticos, etc. I'm talking about being intelligible in the first place (if I can't tell what you're saying there's a problem), and when you're writing for a public audience.

The forums don't count as a public audience (but signs do).

And just as a poor person who grew up in poor neighborhoods gets no slack on their failure to advance from a lot of people, I'm not sure why poor schooling should be blamed for not following up later.

It doesn't take very long to see if your sentence is intelligible (although we all make mistakes on that one sometimes -- I've made some doozies ). It can take a long time to make sure each word is spelled right -- that's why that should be saved for public writing if it's hard or if you're a foreigner.

I think the harping on spelling mistakes & typos in the forums is generally stupid (note I don't usually form part of the frenzy). But I do prefer posts that actually include a thought that can be discerned by someone who doesn't think exactly the same as the poster. Because they probably aren't -- remember there are non-Americans here, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, communists, and religious zealots, and trolls. And some of them are actually trying to communicate with each other

I know I pontificate a lot, and I'm pretty sure it's not value-add. But such is life, and it's a very fair call for someone to post "too fucking long I didn't make it past the first paragraph" or "if it goes past one paragraph I don't even look at it." But such is life.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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I don't buy it. I'm not talking about casual conversation, typos, grammaticos, etc. I'm talking about being intelligible in the first place (if I can't tell what you're saying there's a problem), and when you're writing for a public audience.

The forums don't count as a public audience (but signs do).

And just as a poor person who grew up in poor neighborhoods gets no slack on their failure to advance from a lot of people, I'm not sure why poor schooling should be blamed for not following up later.

It doesn't take very long to see if your sentence is intelligible (although we all make mistakes on that one sometimes -- I've made some doozies ). It can take a long time to make sure each word is spelled right -- that's why that should be saved for public writing if it's hard or if you're a foreigner.

I think the harping on spelling mistakes & typos in the forums is generally stupid (note I don't usually form part of the frenzy). But I do prefer posts that actually include a thought that can be discerned by someone who doesn't think exactly the same as the poster. Because they probably aren't -- remember there are non-Americans here, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, communists, and religious zealots, and trolls. And some of them are actually trying to communicate with each other

I know I pontificate a lot, and I'm pretty sure it's not value-add. But such is life, and it's a very fair call for someone to post "too fucking long I didn't make it past the first paragraph" or "if it goes past one paragraph I don't even look at it." But such is life.

Wendy P.

But it is those causal mistake (for the most part) that people (libs) use here most often

And it is this forum that it is being talked about.

You dont do it and I know that but that does not make it less recognizable

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[danornan 79]

Guess I've always wondered about why a word is misspelled? Who gets to determine if it is spelled "correctly" or not? Do we get to vote? Is there a designated expert? Just curious...

Dano

[BIGUN 1,488]

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I was going to post this in the other tread for Wendy but it seemed to me it needed its own thread

OK. I'm sorry, but this was just too funny to pass up.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Guess I've always wondered about why a word is misspelled? Who gets to determine if it is spelled "correctly" or not? Do we get to vote? Is there a designated expert? Just curious...

Depends on the country and the language I guess. For Dutch in Holland the answer is that there is a designated panel of government workers who pretty much do exactly that. To keep themselves entertain, they change the official spelling and grammar rules from time to time....

[billvon 3,120]

>Guess I've always wondered about why a word is misspelled? Who gets
>to determine if it is spelled "correctly" or not? Do we get to vote?

We should! Otherwise it's undemocratic and downright Communist. Thinking that words are spelled a certain way is typical of the elitist socialist Obama-worshipers, who think only THEIR dictionary is right.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you're reading it and it's misspelled, thank a Republican.

[skipbelt 0]

don't overlook poetic licence , shakespeare used it quite effectively , and don't thank a republican , thank a rino !

[wmw999 2,589]

When is it poetic license, and when is it laziness?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Amazon 7]

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I don't buy it. I'm not talking about casual conversation, typos, grammaticos, etc. I'm talking about being intelligible in the first place (if I can't tell what you're saying there's a problem), and when you're writing for a public audience.

The forums don't count as a public audience (but signs do).

And just as a poor person who grew up in poor neighborhoods gets no slack on their failure to advance from a lot of people, I'm not sure why poor schooling should be blamed for not following up later.

It doesn't take very long to see if your sentence is intelligible (although we all make mistakes on that one sometimes -- I've made some doozies ). It can take a long time to make sure each word is spelled right -- that's why that should be saved for public writing if it's hard or if you're a foreigner.

I think the harping on spelling mistakes & typos in the forums is generally stupid (note I don't usually form part of the frenzy). But I do prefer posts that actually include a thought that can be discerned by someone who doesn't think exactly the same as the poster. Because they probably aren't -- remember there are non-Americans here, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, communists, and religious zealots, and trolls. And some of them are actually trying to communicate with each other

I know I pontificate a lot, and I'm pretty sure it's not value-add. But such is life, and it's a very fair call for someone to post "too fucking long I didn't make it past the first paragraph" or "if it goes past one paragraph I don't even look at it." But such is life.

Wendy P.

+1
Thank you Wendy

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If the teacher was my parent, yes I will thank my teacher. It was my parents who took me aside at a young age and ensured that I knew how to read and write. It wasn't always fun as some aspect of their education was made to seem more like work, but their efforts did pay off. Then they sent me off to an institution known as the public school system for many years which helped enhance my knowledge of reading and writing. But it was not some unionized teacher who laid the foundation for my literacy. It was my parents.

He/she who has never made a spelling/grammar mistake in their entire life is allowed to criticize the mistakes made by others. For the rest of us mortals, we are nothing more than hypocrites when we focus on spelling errors on items when spelling is not the most important aspect. Oh and Liberals do not have a monopoly on being educated. Contrary to their myths, many conservative oriented people have been educated as well.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[billvon 3,120]

>Oh and Liberals do not have a monopoly on being educated.

Agreed 100%. Which is why it's so odd that many conservatives demonize education and portray people with higher degrees as out-of-touch ivory tower elitists. Education is a bit in conflict with some conservative memes (global warming denial, creationism) but by and large republicans and democrats have about the same level of education.

[skipbelt 0]

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When is it poetic license, and when is it laziness?
Wendy P.

we can share the benefit of the doubt . anyone else , lazy !

[rushmc 23]

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I was going to post this in the other tread for Wendy but it seemed to me it needed its own thread

OK. I'm sorry, but this was just too funny to pass up.

I am not a good "poof" reader either I guess

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

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I am not a good "poof" reader either I guess

Actually, I heard you were a fabulous poof.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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I am not a good "poof" reader either I guess

Actually, I heard you were a fabulous poof.

That would be poop

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wmw999 2,589]

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But such is life, and it's a very fair call for someone to post "too fucking long I didn't make it past the first paragraph" or "if it goes past one paragraph I don't even look at it." But such is life.

Damn. Repetitive, too

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[wmw999 2,589]

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That would be poop

No shit?


Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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That would be poop

No shit?


Wendy P.

No

Yes shit

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[skipbelt 0]

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That would be poop

No shit?

Wendy P.

make it a shi tea sandwich , and i'll take one , to go !

[Southern_Man 0]

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We should! Otherwise it's undemocratic and downright Communist. Thinking that words are spelled a certain way is typical of the elitist socialist Obama-worshipers, who think only THEIR dictionary is right.

One of my favorite quotes is from Andrew Jackson who said, “I have no respect for a man who can spell a word only one way.”

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[Coreece 190]

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Guess I've always wondered about why a word is misspelled? Who gets to determine if it is spelled "correctly" or not? Do we get to vote? Is there a designated expert? Just curious...

It seems to appear that you also reject the dictionary.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[wmw999 2,589]

Well, there's actually a pretty good permanent discussion in the language community about whether dictionaries should be prescriptive or descriptive.

You can tell which category someone falls into by watching their expression when you utter the words "Webster's Third"

IOW, should a dictionary describe what's happening with the language, or should it limit what can be done? All dictionaries add words sometimes (otherwise, we wouldn't have software); I think it's just how roundheeled they are about adding them that puts them into one camp or another.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[danornan 79]

Nice!

Naaaaa don't reject it, just curious about what or who makes or determines if a word correctly spelled. Now back to religion...........

Dano

[kelpdiver 2]

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Guess I've always wondered about why a word is misspelled? Who gets to determine if it is spelled "correctly" or not? Do we get to vote? Is there a designated expert? Just curious...

It seems to appear that you also reject the dictionary.

uh, which dictionary?

Ever go to the movie theatre to see the colour pictures?