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a·tone·ment
[uh-tohn-muhnt]
–noun
1. satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
A friend at Perris used one of my jump tickets without my knowledge. By way of atonement, she bought breakfast at Annie's. I'm not satisfied. She needs to atone again, this time at Kokoro's.
[uh-tohn-muhnt]
–noun
1. satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
A friend at Perris used one of my jump tickets without my knowledge. By way of atonement, she bought breakfast at Annie's. I'm not satisfied. She needs to atone again, this time at Kokoro's.
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Quotea·tone·ment
[uh-tohn-muhnt]
–noun
1. satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
A friend at Perris used one of my jump tickets without my knowledge. By way of atonement, she bought breakfast at Annie's. I'm not satisfied. She needs to atone again, this time at Kokoro's.
and you call me a false prophet
then you quote scripture about which you know nothing:
Quote"Beware of false teachers who come disguised as harmless sheep, but are wolves and will tear you apart. You can detect them by the way they act
Then you spit in my face:
QuoteHonest...God doesn't give a shit about you, your book, or how it's misinterpreted.
Honest...I care, and just want an answer to what atonement these Jews who celebrate Yom Kippur are talking about.
It's a simple question, and nobody wants to give the only obvious answer, because they don't believe it an have nowhere else to turn.
Why is there such hostility against the verses I've given that come straight out of their book?
It's not even from the New Testament...you can even go to the hebrew version...same treatment no matter how you interpret it...it's quite clear.
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
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well....now that it's after sundown, perhaps if there are any observant Jews that are reading this forum, they'll give the answer you demand.
BTW, Happy Yom Kippur!
BTW, Happy Yom Kippur!
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QuoteBTW, Happy Yom Kippur!
Thank you!
It was a bitter sweet moment meditating on where the true atonement came from...Christ Jesus, the Son of God...
Where else?
1 The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amoz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
A Rebellious Nation
2 Hear, O heavens! Listen, O earth!
For the LORD has spoken:
"I reared children and brought them up,
but they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knows his master,
the donkey his owner's manger,
but Israel does not know,
my people do not understand."
4 Ah, sinful nation,
a people loaded with guilt,
a brood of evildoers,
children given to corruption!
They have forsaken the LORD;
they have spurned the Holy One of Israel
and turned their backs on him.
5 Why should you be beaten anymore?
Why do you persist in rebellion?
Your whole head is injured,
your whole heart afflicted.
6 From the sole of your foot to the top of your head
there is no soundness—
only wounds and welts
and open sores,
not cleansed or bandaged
or soothed with oil.
7 Your country is desolate,
your cities burned with fire;
your fields are being stripped by foreigners
right before you,
laid waste as when overthrown by strangers.
8 The Daughter of Zion is left
like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a city under siege.
9 Unless the LORD Almighty
had left us some survivors,
we would have become like Sodom,
we would have been like Gomorrah.
10 Hear the word of the LORD,
you rulers of Sodom;
listen to the law of our God,
you people of Gomorrah!
11 "The multitude of your sacrifices—
what are they to me?" says the LORD.
"I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
12 When you come to appear before me,
who has asked this of you,
this trampling of my courts?
13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
I cannot bear your evil assemblies.
14 Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts
my soul hates.
They have become a burden to me;
I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you spread out your hands in prayer,
I will hide my eyes from you;
even if you offer many prayers,
I will not listen.
Your hands are full of blood;
16 wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds
out of my sight!
Stop doing wrong,
17 learn to do right!
Seek justice,
encourage the oppressed. [a]
Defend the cause of the fatherless,
plead the case of the widow.
18 "Come now, let us reason together,"
says the LORD.
"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool.
19 If you are willing and obedient,
you will eat the best from the land;
20 but if you resist and rebel,
you will be devoured by the sword."
For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.
21 See how the faithful city
has become a harlot!
She once was full of justice;
righteousness used to dwell in her—
but now murderers!
22 Your silver has become dross,
your choice wine is diluted with water.
23 Your rulers are rebels,
companions of thieves;
they all love bribes
and chase after gifts.
They do not defend the cause of the fatherless;
the widow's case does not come before them.
24 Therefore the Lord, the LORD Almighty,
the Mighty One of Israel, declares:
"Ah, I will get relief from my foes
and avenge myself on my enemies.
25 I will turn my hand against you;
I will thoroughly purge away your dross
and remove all your impurities.
26 I will restore your judges as in days of old,
your counselors as at the beginning.
Afterward you will be called
the City of Righteousness,
the Faithful City."
27 Zion will be redeemed with justice,
her penitent ones with righteousness.
28 But rebels and sinners will both be broken,
and those who forsake the LORD will perish.
29 "You will be ashamed because of the sacred oaks
in which you have delighted;
you will be disgraced because of the gardens
that you have chosen.
30 You will be like an oak with fading leaves,
like a garden without water.
31 The mighty man will become tinder
and his work a spark;
both will burn together,
with no one to quench the fire."
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
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QuoteQuoteI take it that this thread is NOT about smoked Herring
lox ?
That would be kippers.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yom KippurChristmas is observed by many secularJewsChristians who may not observe other holidays. Many secularJewsChristians attendsynagogueonatYom KippurChristmas—for many secularJewsChristians the High Holidays are the only recurring times of the year in which they attendsynagogueChurch,—causingsynagogueChurch attendance to soar,and almost two-thirds fast
So whats the difference? Christianity is no different in this respect. As for your earlier post it does not show the origins of Judaism simply one part of a very long story. A lot has happened in the last to thousand years, do you still think that God has turned away from the Jews? If so how does that sit with the fact that the temple is once again under Jewish control? Why is it the Muslims and Jews believe that other faiths can make it to heaven yet Christians think their the only ones that will? (I know what your going to say but the guy who said it was a Jew!)
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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QuoteQuote'You have never been mine. Go away, for your deeds are evil.' (Matthew 7:15-23)
You are simply out of your depth.
These verses are a call to repentance.
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Not in my interpretation.
Or mine, I think your quote is very apt.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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What atonement? What is this Yom Kippur all about?
Read you own link, its quite clearly stated.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yom KippurChristmas is observed by many secularJewsChristians who may not observe other holidays. Many secularJewsChristians attendsynagogueonatYom KippurChristmas—for many secularJewsChristians the High Holidays are the only recurring times of the year in which they attendsynagogueChurch,—causingsynagogueChurch attendance to soar,and almost two-thirds fast
So whats the difference? Christianity is no different in this respect. As for your earlier post it does not show the origins of Judaism simply one part of a very long story. A lot has happened in the last to thousand years, do you still think that God has turned away from the Jews? If so how does that sit with the fact that the temple is once again under Jewish control? Why is it the Muslims and Jews believe that other faiths can make it to heaven yet Christians think their the only ones that will? (I know what your going to say but the guy who said it was a Jew!)
I don't think the Jews celebrate the birth of Christ.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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And when I was growing up, Christmas hardly had anything to do with Christ, but rather Santa Clause and all our precious gifts...It has become a materealistic sham to distract our minds from what it is all about...Christ.QuoteA lot has happened in the last to thousand years, do you still think that God has turned away from the Jews?
The Jews are God's Chosen People, and though it has been a wild roller coaster of a ride, they will always be His people and He will redeem them...It is no secret that God has a special place in his heart for Jews, specifically the last Jews on Earth before he fufills the prophecy of establishing his earthly Kingdom in Israel.
If it wasn't by the Jews, through the Jews I doubt I would or even could be a believer in the true Messiah.
Jews have been a major influence in my life, specifically one Jewish Rabbi in Clearwater, FL who I'v studied under extensively. He has taught me much about the scriptures and has accepted Christ as the true Messiah promised by God.Quotehow does that sit with the fact that the temple is once again under Jewish control?
?? The temple was destroyed aproximately 2000 years ago and the animal sacrafices for the atonement of sin have ceased...Could it be because the only sacrafice acceptable to God occured on Mt Calvary/Golgatha once and for all approximately 2000 years ago...As I said, it is clear that God takes no pleasure in the blood of bulls, and lambs and goats.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
Not in my interpretation.
I'm talking about these verses:
Your hands are full of blood;
16 wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds
out of my sight!
Stop doing wrong,
17 learn to do right!
Seek justice,
encourage the oppressed.
Defend the cause of the fatherless,
plead the case of the widow.
btw, Is there a Jew out there that can answer me the question where this atonement comes from if not from the blood of Christ?
What atonement? What is this Yom Kippur all about?