jakee 1,596 #26 September 17, 2010 Quote I spoke the language the way the muslim sympathizers see those who are opposed to muslim extremists. They label such people as ignorant rednecks, so I played the expected role for them. You guys fell for it hook, line and sinker, and revealed your bias, therefore validating my very point. Except that we knew what you were putting it on. I know you don't normally talk like that. I'm sure Andy knows you don't normally talk like that. (OK, Amazon I'm not sure about, but she is a special case). Maybe the fact that you think that our responses mean we think that you actually are an ignorant redneck who uses southern dialect because you sometimes criticise muslims only serves to expose your own biased stereotypes of people who call other people on being overly reactionarily anti-muslim*. Unless of course this is a triple bluff, and you don't think that we think that you speak like that. That'd be too confusing though. * And your bias against people who use southern dialect - I'm sure they're not all ignorant rednecksDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #27 September 17, 2010 Quote Unless of course this is a triple bluff, and you don't think that we think that you speak like that. That'd be too confusing though. You know where the game Texas hold'em came from don't you? ...never misunderestimate your opponent....and if ya'll think Bush was really that stupid, I don't know what else to say but, tsk tsk tsk. These are the kings of poker and they got us all. They may talk funny and have a different edumacation system, but they know what they want, and they sure as hell know how to get it. ...and the scariest part is that they couldn't care less what you think about em'Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #28 September 17, 2010 Saw the picture of the pope and the queen sitting together chatting on Yahoo and the first thought that crossed my mind was are there two more useless leeches in the world? The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 September 17, 2010 Quotethe way the muslim sympathizers see those who are opposed to muslim extremists. They label such people as ignorant rednecks One problem here (inter alia) is in your convenient labels, John. "People opposed to bigotry by any excuse" are vilified as "muslim sympathizers" (how telling that you don't call them "terrorist sympathizers", thus exposing antipathy for the entire religion). "Muslim-hating bigots who use terrorism by Muslims as a convenient excuse to hate all Muslims" are artificially elevated to the noble status of "those who are opposed to muslim extremists". "Bigots who deserve to be outed for what they are" are magically morphed into "ignorant rednecks". Why? To give bigots who are educated and articulate cover to hide behind: "Well, I'm not ignorant trailer trash, so I can't be called a bigot". Well, yes one can. I, for example, am not a "Muslim sympathizer" John. I'm a human being sympathizer; I'm a "target of ethnic bigotry"-sympathizer as much as I'm also a "target of terrorism"-sympathizer. And I'm opposed to Muslim extremists, too. But for me, it's because I'm opposed to all violent extremists, including but not limited to Muslim ones (thus: pasty-faced IRA terrorists, too, for example); whereas the bigots are opposed to Muslim extremists because - first and foremost - they hate Muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 September 17, 2010 Quotewhereas the bigots are opposed to Muslim extremists because - first and foremost - they hate Muslims. Ah, the vaunted liberal telepathy - so often used, so often dead wrong.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 September 17, 2010 Quote Ah, the vaunted liberal telepathy I knew you'd say that. By the way, much as I appreciate the compliment, you've effectively insulted conservatives by implying that being opposed to ethnic bigotry is a presumably liberal characteristic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 September 17, 2010 Quote Quote Ah, the vaunted liberal telepathy I knew you'd say that. By the way, much as I appreciate the compliment It wasn't one. Quote you've effectively insulted conservatives by implying that being opposed to ethnic bigotry is a presumably liberal characteristic. Wrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #33 September 17, 2010 Quote I spoke the language the way the muslim sympathizers see those who are opposed to muslim extremists. They label such people as ignorant rednecks, so I played the expected role for them. Ok, you can stop it nowWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #34 September 17, 2010 QuoteWrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster. Will you do the same for JohnRich?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #35 September 17, 2010 QuoteSaw the picture of the pope and the queen sitting together chatting on Yahoo ..... I take it that they were using messenger.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #36 September 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteWrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster. Will you do the same for JohnRich? As soon as you do for Andy, Bill, Zon, etc...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #37 September 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster. Will you do the same for JohnRich? As soon as you do for Andy, Bill, Zon, etc... Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise that it only counts when it's done by people you disagree with.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 September 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster. Will you do the same for JohnRich? As soon as you do for Andy, Bill, Zon, etc... Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise that it only counts when it's done by people you disagree with. Likewise.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #39 September 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWrong again - I wasn't speaking to the point of your argument, but to the overwhelming arrogance of presuming you know the thoughts and motivation of another poster. Will you do the same for JohnRich? As soon as you do for Andy, Bill, Zon, etc... Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise that it only counts when it's done by people you disagree with. Likewise. Except, I didn't point it out for anyone. You did.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #40 September 17, 2010 Quote Quote Saw the picture of the pope and the queen sitting together chatting on Yahoo ..... I take it that they were using messenger. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #41 September 17, 2010 Some very interesting footage of the Popes visit to the UK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f7V3NQ2q08&feature=relatedWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #42 September 17, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Saw the picture of the pope and the queen sitting together chatting on Yahoo ..... I take it that they were using messenger. Only if the pope's crucifix and the queen's orb thingy were so equipped. The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #43 September 17, 2010 If that same aid had mentioned that after landing in Phoenix he thought he was in Mexico, many would have applauded him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #44 September 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Saw the picture of the pope and the queen sitting together chatting on Yahoo ..... I take it that they were using messenger. Only if the pope's crucifix and the queen's orb thingy were so equipped. LOL... Paints quite a picure doesn't itWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
