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Pope's aide pulls out of UK visit after ‘third world’ jibe

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He's got a point (The bankers are making us a 3rd world country)... but should STFU:P..

Any way, it's not unusual for Priests to just Pull-Out:o



Is he supposed to ask his boyfriend first?
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The conservative 77-year-old had claimed that anyone landing at Heathrow might think they were in ‘a third world country’ – due to ‘the multicultural variety of faces’.



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LOL... Sounds like the Pope wasn't the only one in the Hitler Youth. :D
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What I find ammusing is he first says the UK is "like a third world country"... ok, mildly insulting if anyone actually cared what he thought.

He then says "no, no, I didn't mean it like that, I simply meant that there are lots of black people in the UK".

Yeah, because being racist is better than merely mildly insulting!! :S

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RWRATP (Real writers rewrite around the problem)
"My, London doesn't look at all how I imagined"
"London has become quite an international city, hasn't it!"
"It's nothing like I imagined after watching "Upstairs, Downstairs!"
:)

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I think there is some re-writing going on here. While not surprised, I am disappointed in the way the media have reported this so far. Most of the stories either say:
-He says (or thinks) the UK is a "a third world country" (not what he said), or
-He compared the UK to a third world country (also not really what he said).

I'm wondering how much of this is subject to that old technique: taking something out of context. Thus far, my google-searching has only turned up stories that cherry-picked out that one phrase, but has not yet turned up the full quote, in full context, translated into English (it was a German interview). I'd love to see it in full context so we can judge for ourselves.

Thus far, what he seems to have said, is that when you land at Heathrow, there are so many nationalities and ethnicities in the terminal, you'd think you were in a third-world country. OK, maybe not very discreet; but from my own experience, that's certainly true about JFK or Miami International or LAX, too.

I don't mind Vatican hierarchy taking their lumps when they have it coming, but I don't like spin-doctoring or bum raps, either. I think the jury's still out on this one until we can read the complete text of the entire interview.

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I don't mind Vatican hierarchy taking their lumps when they have it coming, but I don't like spin-doctoring or bum raps, either.



Aw come on now - it's open season on Christians, haven't you heard?
All attacks on Christians are fair game, no questions asked.
Just don't do it to them there Muslims.
Because then you'll be a racist hater.

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them there Muslims.



tsk tsk. Grammar, John.


Them thar?


Its what passes for the english langauge in certain parts of America.


them thar parts


It's nice to see everyone validating John's point.:P
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I don't believe that anyone is attacking John because he's a Christian (which was his original point).

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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them there Muslims.



tsk tsk. Grammar, John.


Them thar?


Its what passes for the english langauge in certain parts of America.


them thar parts


Some times ya just gotta speak good ole boy.... for clarity:ph34r:

They do tend to roll out the ole elitist label for anythin else.

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I don't believe that anyone is attacking John because he's a Christian (which was his original point).

Wendy P.



I was talking about validating his point by becomming grammar nazi's and not presenting a rebuttal.

...but then again, I haven't really seen any of the 3 posters I was responding to showing any partiality toward muslims...but you on the other hand...ummm, I don't know.:P;):D:)
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That's because the "Help, help, I'm a poor oppressed majority!" line doesn't really need to be rebutted anymore. It was bollocks the last 10,000 times it's been used and nothing's changed.



I see...

...and b4 I saw your post, I wanted to edit mine to say:
In all fairness to Wendy, given what I know of her personality, I can see how she could look at muslims in this country as being somewhat oppressed and her feeling a need to stick up for them.
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I was talking about validating his point by becomming grammar nazi's...



Spelling, too. An apostophe is for the possessive; never the plural.
Tsk tsk.


grhammer nazies...

Their, hows that!

*edit*
sorry, I ment grahmer.

but seriously, is it nazis or nazies? I'm all flustered on this one. Probably why I made the mistake in the first place...do grammar rules apply to german words?

...this has been the greatest challenge yet in these forums.;)
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them there Muslims.



tsk tsk. Grammar, John.



I spoke the language the way the muslim sympathizers see those who are opposed to muslim extremists. They label such people as ignorant rednecks, so I played the expected role for them. You guys fell for it hook, line and sinker, and revealed your bias, therefore validating my very point.

And I hope you're not opposed to the use of dramatic license with language, because then entire books like "Huckleberry Finn" would have to be thrown out:
"We catched fish and talked, and we took a swim now and then to keep off sleepiness. It was kind of solemn, drifting down the big, still river, laying on our backs looking up at the stars, and we didn't ever feel like talking loud, and it warn't often that we laughed—only a little kind of a low chuckle. We had mighty good weather as a general thing, and nothing ever happened to us at all—that night, nor the next, nor the next."
- Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"

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them there Muslims.



tsk tsk. Grammar, John.



I spoke the language the way the muslim sympathizers see those who are opposed to muslim extremists. They label such people as ignorant rednecks, so I played the expected role for them. You guys fell for it hook, line and sinker, and revealed your bias, therefore validating my very point.

And I hope you're not opposed to the use of dramatic license with language, because then entire books like "Huckleberry Finn" would have to be thrown out:
"We catched fish and talked, and we took a swim now and then to keep off sleepiness. It was kind of solemn, drifting down the big, still river, laying on our backs looking up at the stars, and we didn't ever feel like talking loud, and it warn't often that we laughed—only a little kind of a low chuckle. We had mighty good weather as a general thing, and nothing ever happened to us at all—that night, nor the next, nor the next."
- Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"




Ole Sam Clemens was quite capable of translation of colloquial speech. I would hope that our educational system would have progressed since the time of writing of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn in 1884. I personally think Sam would have sought to elevate those of humble birth in that area but alas, it seems today there is a movement afoot to promulgate atrocious language as the norm among those who should be seeking to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Them thar same folk seek to denigrate anyone who don't speak like dem... as elitists.

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