If I broke into your house . . .

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>Wow - Bill - only took you until post 3 to turn this into a religion bashing thread.

Sorry to take the wind out of your immigrant bashing thread.

I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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>Wow - Bill - only took you until post 3 to turn this into a religion bashing thread.
Sorry to take the wind out of your immigrant bashing thread.

I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

typical lib response , if you oppose ILLEGAL immigration , you're a xenophobic , prejudiced , biased , discriminatory , mexican hating , racist. not very tolerant of you libs. not very honest either. it's racial extortion . racebaiting racecard playing. no honest discussion of the issue , just attempts to silence and demean ! do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.

What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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how's that working for you ?

Like a good quiche, and maybe a tree-hug.

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So, some folks are worried out people walking into their country ...to work but O.K to invade someone elses, kick down doors, destroy infrastructur (oh and kill a few innocents -colateral damage my arse).. then contract the repairs out to MegaIndustries USA Inc.

What a very strange world that we live in

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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So, some folks are worried out people walking into their country ...to work but O.K to invade someone elses, kick down doors, destroy infrastructur (oh and kill a few innocents -colateral damage my arse).. then contract the repairs out to MegaIndustries USA Inc.

What a very strange world that we live in

Are you generalizing again?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

So now if you're a Conservative and you support enforcing the law it makes you a radical? A bit oxymoronic don't you think?

I guess it's time for us Conservatives to start growing our hair long and smoking dope. Oh, wait......

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+1 but arguing with Quade is a lose/lose situation. While I would not do his "job" to suggest that he is fair and balanced about these topics w/b to suggest that Fox News is......

OTOH he's human

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

So now if you're a Conservative and you support enforcing the law it makes you a radical? A bit oxymoronic don't you think?

I guess it's time for us Conservatives to start growing our hair long and smoking dope. Oh, wait......

You get an "F" for reading comprehension.

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>Wow - Bill - only took you until post 3 to turn this into a religion bashing thread.

Sorry to take the wind out of your immigrant bashing thread.

So if anybody has a position you disagree with, it is based on hate and bashing?

Ok, I am starting to get it now

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Right, because tracing information back to its source and seeing where else it might be posted is silly.

People should never do that. They should always just take whatever they find on the internet and repost it without regard for where it comes from or who else may have used it.

AND ITS NOT RIGHT ADDRESSING THE OP TOPIC IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH. BASH THE SOURSE
YA
THATS IT
BASH THE SOURCE

Especially when you got nuttin

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Let's just say...I'd say "Good Luck to Ya"

I'm NOT a racist, nor do I care what religious nor political stand anyone takes, but this ongoing illegal immigration / entry needs to stop, NOW!
Some of the best people I know, come here to work during jump season WITH Visa's.
Thank God, they do !
They are a necessity for alot of DZ's to stay Staffed, as needed, but the ongoing & continuing entry by swimming & walking over OUR borders, needs to be stopped... by whatever it takes.
KKK offered their assistance in border patrol.
Perhaps, their presence may give rise to a 2nd thought in crossing over when faced with a newly built 'white picket fence', lined up with a welcome wagon !
Civil unrest...no doubt !
Let the illegals, smugglers, cartels, protesters & Klan duke it out !
Let's just say I've become an intolerant, 'sick of sharing' extremist, these days.

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I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

America has taught the world that the distinction between legal and illegal is completely immaterial. The only thing that matters is who has the bigger gun. (or bomb, or plane, or ship etc).

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I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

America has taught the world that the distinction between legal and illegal is completely immaterial. The only thing that matters is who has the bigger gun. (or bomb, or plane, or ship etc).

... that's gonna smart

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Right, because tracing information back to its source and seeing where else it might be posted is silly.

People should never do that. They should always just take whatever they find on the internet and repost it without regard for where it comes from or who else may have used it.

I prefer to let something stand on it's own merits, not it's associations.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.

What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

America has taught the world that the distinction between legal and illegal is completely immaterial. The only thing that matters is who has the bigger gun. (or bomb, or plane, or ship etc).

... that's gonna smart

I doubt it - it is already too far over the stupid line.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.
What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

quade doesn't understand conservatism , thank God.
as for bolas, desperate only to the extent the arizona state law MIRRORS federal law !

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.
What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

So what exactly is desperate about the situation? Is it that illegal immigration has skyrocketed (because it's actually gone down) or is it that certain political entities in Arizona need a group to hate to rally their troops?

That's the only thing desperate about the situation I can see. Everything else has been chugging along its merry way the same as it ever was . . . for centuries.

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.
What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

So what exactly is desperate about the situation? Is it that illegal immigration has skyrocketed (because it's actually gone down) or is it that certain political entities in Arizona need a group to hate to rally their troops?

That's the only thing desperate about the situation I can see. Everything else has been chugging along its merry way the same as it ever was . . . for centuries.

Wow...Are you serious ?

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Right, because tracing information back to its source and seeing where else it might be posted is silly.

People should never do that. They should always just take whatever they find on the internet and repost it without regard for where it comes from or who else may have used it.

AND ITS NOT RIGHT ADDRESSING THE OP TOPIC IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH. BASH THE SOURSE
YA
THATS IT
BASH THE SOURCE

Especially when you got nuttin

Rush, I don't expect you to understand this, but I'll give it a shot anyway. The original post was pretty much only copy and pasted material. It's IMPOSSIBLE to have a discussion with material that is copied and pasted. It will never answer a question. It's not "bashing" to want to know the source either.

If anyone just consumes material without questioning where it comes from, they open themselves up to being manipulated by propaganda.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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do try to tolerate us conservatives as much as you tolerate americas enemies !

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society.
What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

So what exactly is desperate about the situation? Is it that illegal immigration has skyrocketed (because it's actually gone down) or is it that certain political entities in Arizona need a group to hate to rally their troops?

That's the only thing desperate about the situation I can see. Everything else has been chugging along its merry way the same as it ever was . . . for centuries.

The Feds inability or reluctance to handle illegal immigration + escelating violence from international gangs/cartels in AZ as well as a recession where money for services is extremely tight.

I'm surprised this didn't occur sooner and not in more places.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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>Wow...Are you serious ?

Yep. The "evil illegal immigrants are destroying the US" is a right wing myth, promulgated by people who use fear as a means of control.

Here's one example.

John McCain says crossover crime from Mexico has led to "violence--the worst I have ever seen." Be afraid of "the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can't feel safe in their community!" Drug gangs shooting up innocent civilians! "Minutemen" needed to stem the flood of criminals into our country! Oh my!

And yet El Paso, Texas, supposedly Ground Zero for all this violence - is the third safest city in the US.

That's a fact that FOX News et al don't want you to find out about, because then people would be less afraid - and people who are less afraid are harder to control.