If I broke into your house . . .

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As an individual you can choose to take on debt or live within your means. Try doing that with governments. When was the last time a government lived within their means? Sure once in every blue moon someone might run a surplus for a year or two, but it never lasts. Federal, Provincial/State and municipal governments are always looking for new ways to spend the tax payer's money and the Central Bankers are always there to invent money out of thin air for these drunken governments.

I am picking on the Donkeys and the Elephants here, but the same thing exists in other countries. Shit up here in Canuckistan we have the "they spend like a drunk Liberal" CONServatives, we have the "we need to spend money, no wait you are spending too much money, no wait we need to spend more money, and while I am here at the troughs I will fill my pockets with tax payers money since I am entitled to my entitlements" LIEberals and then of course there is the "we should always spend spend spend oh and all businesses must be driven from the country" NDP. They all suck. Some (specifically the LIEberals) just suck more than others.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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As an individual you can choose to take on debt or live within your means. Try doing that with governments. When was the last time a government lived within their means? Sure once in every blue moon someone might run a surplus for a year or two, but it never lasts. Federal, Provincial/State and municipal governments are always looking for new ways to spend the tax payer's money and the Central Bankers are always there to invent money out of thin air for these drunken governments.

It's not impossible but society/voters as a whole need to start asking politicians "How are we going to pay for this?"

If not, they'll loan us more and more. They can't really forclose or demand payment on a government so it's pretty much a mutual dependence relationship as they're discovering with Greece.

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Actually he's talking sense.

The federal reserve is neither federal, nor does it have any reserves. They simply create money out of thin air. Anytime a government does that, it eventually comes down to its true value: zero.

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[billvon 3,111]

>You realize people who are trying to get into the country illegally don't generally
>go to the local police when their coyotes screw with them, right?

Agreed. Neither do Chicago drug dealers or Detroit pimps. Indeed, most criminals tend to avoid the local police as a rule.

>Do you really think El Paso, which shares part of its border with Ciudad Juarez,
>is as safe as you make it?

I am certainly no expert on El Paso; I've been there a grand total of about three times. However, the FBI would seem to be a pretty authoritative source when it comes to evaluating crime rates.

>but you don't rub shoulders with "Murder City" without some spilling over.

From the available data, it looks like you can indeed do that - sensationalist press notwithstanding..

>anyone with the inclination can find stories of cross-border skirmishes, banditos,
>rustlers, famous/infamous lawmen of dubious legality, and all kinds of colorful
>characters.

Of course. Just as anyone can find stories about how (formerly) legal gun owners used their weapons to rob, rape and murder people. Such stories would paint a picture of gun owners as potential criminals, a source of potential crime to be stopped before it becomes an epidemic.

But I suspect you would object to such a picture; you might claim that although the stories were accurate, the picture they painted was not.

>why was Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu telling reporters in June 2010 that
>"violence against law enforcement officers and U.S. citizens has increased in
>the past four months, further underscoring the need to keep the 80 miles of
>border land off-limits to Americans?"

I don't know. Perhaps for the same reason that Jan Brewer claimed that "Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert either buried or just lying out there that have been beheaded." (which wasn't true.) Perhaps in both cases it advances their agendas. Perhaps in both cases they stand to reap financial rewards in the form of more spending on law enforcement.

Or perhaps they both just watch FOX News; it certainly doesn't seem to be supported by reality. Violent crime in Pinal County dropped from 290 incidents in 2007 to 198 incidents in 2008 (can't find anything more recent.)

>Right and left just tell people to be afraid of different things. Both want more
>power.

Agreed there.

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The "evil illegal immigrants are destroying the US" is a right wing myth, promulgated by people who use fear as a means of control.

The Federal Reserve are the ones who are destroying the USA with their ability to create money out of thin air and turn around and loan it out at interest. We the common people are nothing but slaves to the elitist Central Banking cartel. There would not be a problem with illegals if there wasn't the need for cheap slave labor. Plus it does not matter if a Donkey or an Elephant lives in the White House, they are the same. The President of the USA is nothing more than a puppet to their Central Banking masters. The only difference between a Donkey and an Elephant, is if someone breaks into a conservative's house they will probably be shot. If someone breaks into a Liberals house, they will be greeted with hugs, pillow fights and teddy bears.
Have you hugged a thug yet today?

cheap slave labor ?

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Duuuuuuuude are you channeling rhys conspiracy sources???

Carry on thinking Obama is your savior. You are blind to the realities that he is nothing more than a puppet. His "YES WE CAN" was nothing more than pure bullshit. There is little difference between Obama and GWB. Shit we already know they are distant cousins. But maybe you love Obama so much because you too have admitted you are part of the Obama/GWB clan. It must make your family reunions interesting as you kiss Obama's ass all the while spew garbage towards his cousin, your cousin GWB.

The difference between us is that I know both Obama and GWB suck ass.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. all that conspiracy anger up ther ein Canuckistan

Of course they are both my distant 8th and 10th cousins.. so is Clinton 6th... and Queen Liz... yup also a 9th cousin.

The thing is I don't have a coronary about who the ruling class is... but go ahead... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.....

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I don't have a coronary about who the ruling class is

Really because you are one of the biggest partisan hacks on this entire DorkZone website. Sure you are not alone, you have plenty of partisan company on both sides of the aisles here, but you have to remember all your "Republitard" and "rePUBIClowns" rhetoric is stored in the history of all the posts you have ever made on this site. You can deny it all you want, but there is no shortage of hatred that is contained in that brain of yours towards the other side of the political spectrum.

Once again one of many differences between us, is that I acknowledge that they all suck ass whereas you are in love with your savior the Donkey faced "NO WE CAN'T" messiah who has been delivered to us to save all of us from those evil hated Republican Elephants.

Enjoy your partisan bullshit ... you are no different than the people you mock.

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I don't have a coronary about who the ruling class is

Really because you are one of the biggest partisan hacks on this entire DorkZone website. Sure you are not alone, you have plenty of partisan company on both sides of the aisles here, but you have to remember all your "Republitard" and "rePUBIClowns" rhetoric is stored in the history of all the posts you have ever made on this site. You can deny it all you want, but there is no shortage of hatred that is contained in that brain of yours towards the other side of the political spectrum.

Once again one of many differences between us, is that I acknowledge that they all suck ass whereas you are in love with your savior the Donkey faced "NO WE CAN'T" messiah who has been delivered to us to save all of us from those evil hated Republican Elephants.

Enjoy your partisan bullshit ... you are no different than the people you mock.

You like so many others can not distinguish between republicans... and the spate of rePUBIClowns that have destroyed the party in the last 30 years.

My disdain is for the newcummers to the party who place all values on morality.... in what they say.. and certainly not what they have done... by the HUNDREDS of GOP politicians caught redhanded and redfaced not living up to their holier than thou morality. They can take their theocratic crap and shove it up where it belongs. Their fiscal responsibility has taken us to 11+ TRILLION in nationaldebt and set a course for trillions more in debt... SMALL GOVERNMENT>. MY ASS... NO NATION BUILDING.... YEAH RIGHT... Face it.. those clowns havve fooled you over and over and over and over.... Talk about fool you once... DUUUDE you guys cant be anything BUT fooled.

Keep on with all the conservative hate....though... you seem incapable of seeing past the sound bites that warm your cockles.

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DUUUDE you guys cant be anything BUT fooled.

ROFLMAO ... only in the eyes of a partisan Liberal can I say "they all suck ass, including the Republicans" and yet still be labeled as "one of them". You know if there was a Libertarian candidate that I liked and that I could vote for, maybe just maybe I would be "one of them". But seeing as I don't have a candidate I can support, my favorite candidate still remains "None of the above ... they all suck".

back on topic ...

If someone breaks into a Conservative's house, chances are they will be shot. If someone breaks into a Liberal's house, they will be showered with hugs, cupcakes, candy canes and teddy bears. Also, since this is an illegal immigration oriented thread, there is two reasons why Donkeys and Elephants ignore the illegals. One reason is for some bizarre reason they both think they can win votes by catering to the special interest illegal aliens. But more importantly they both want to exploit the illegal alien for cheap labor.

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DUUUDE you guys cant be anything BUT fooled.

ROFLMAO ... only in the eyes of a partisan Liberal can I say "they all suck ass, including the Republicans" and yet still be labeled as "one of them". You know if there was a Libertarian candidate that I liked and that I could vote for, maybe just maybe I would be "one of them". But seeing as I don't have a candidate I can support, my favorite candidate still remains "None of the above ... they all suck".

back on topic ...

If someone breaks into a Conservative's house, chances are they will be shot. If someone breaks into a Liberal's house, they will be showered with hugs, cupcakes, candy canes and teddy bears. Also, since this is an illegal immigration oriented thread, there is two reasons why Donkeys and Elephants ignore the illegals. One reason is for some bizarre reason they both think they can win votes by catering to the special interest illegal aliens. But more importantly they both want to exploit the illegal alien for cheap labor.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Libertarian candidate.. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Must breathe....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

More breathing while the Libertarian candidate is suckin up da ganga


Dude.. you crack me up....If someone breaks into your house in Canukistan..... what cha gonna do.. smoke them out???.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

If you were the person breaking into my home and if I had the unfortunate fortune of looking at you, I know I would turn to stone. So yeah, therefore I would be royally FUBARed.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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If you were the person breaking into my home and if I had the unfortunate fortune of looking at you, I know I would turn to stone.

easy buddy, you better watch out how you be talkin' to my sugar momma...don't make me pray for you.

...but in all actuallity it sounds like yall'd just be gettin stoned instead.

I'm sure you guys would actually have a great time together...well at least if I was there to mediate.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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If you were the person breaking into my home and if I had the unfortunate fortune of looking at you, I know I would turn to stone.

easy buddy, you better watch out how you be talkin' to my sugar momma...don't make me pray for you.

...but in all actuallity it sounds like yall'd just be gettin stoned instead.

I'm sure you guys would actually have a great time together...well at least if I was there to mediate.

Oh come on.. Steve is a funny duuuuuude. His main problem is he is a man out of place and time.... an UBBER conservative in a country where their conservatives.... are more liberal than most of the liberals in this country....

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Steve is a funny duuuuuude.

yes his is...It was almost sinful how much I enjoyed listening to yall.

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Steve is a funny duuuuuude.

yes his is...It was almost sinful how much I enjoyed listening to yall.

You know . . . Maybe the nay sayers are right . . .

I guess you could change this around to tresspassing in your yard, not breaking into your house.

Both illegal, but one is a lot harsher tan the others. However - I think the rest still stands.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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You know . . . Maybe the nay sayers are right . . .

I guess you could change this around to tresspassing in your yard, not breaking into your house.

Both illegal, but one is a lot harsher tan the others. However - I think the rest still stands.

I say just open the borders and let all the innocent through, then take over the country...I hear they have some prime real estate down there.

Now watch Lucky blast me for being an imperalist.

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Steve is a funny duuuuuude.

yes his is...It was almost sinful how much I enjoyed listening to yall.

You know . . . Maybe the nay sayers are right . . .
I guess you could change this around to tresspassing in your yard, not breaking into your house.
Both illegal, but one is a lot harsher tan the others. However - I think the rest still stands.

trespassing , illegally importing produce with possible insect , contagion infestation
illegal avoidance of quarantine , conspiracy ( if in a group ) wire fraud if funds are tranmitted for the purpose of gaining illegal entry , kidnapping if one parent remains behind . probably a lot more. all serious offences . all excellent reasons to control our backyard !

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What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative.

So now if you're a Conservative and you support enforcing the law it makes you a radical? A bit oxymoronic don't you think?

I guess it's time for us Conservatives to start growing our hair long and smoking dope. Oh, wait......

You get an "F" for reading comprehension.

It's from smoking all that dope. A Radicalized Conservative that I have become now is to blame. Can I get a Government handout yet?

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what if this guy broke into a libs house ( backyard ) , i know the libs LOVE the nimby principle , but in this case libs, please be tolerant

http://dailycaller.com/2010/09/15/california-rewards-child-molester/

turtlespeed or some productive conservative ( redundant ) would you clickify this ?[url]

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what if this guy broke into a libs house ( backyard ) , i know the libs LOVE the nimby principle , but in this case libs, please be tolerant

http://dailycaller.com/2010/09/15/california-rewards-child-molester/

turtlespeed or some productive conservative ( redundant ) would you clickify this ?

You can see the buttons below when you post - learn them.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,111]

Done. (As usual, the conservatives talk about the hard work they're doing while someone else actually does it.)

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Done. (As usual, the conservatives talk about the hard work they're doing while someone else actually does it.)

Teach him instead of (whatever you are doing) to him then.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

America has taught the world that the distinction between legal and illegal is completely immaterial. The only thing that matters is who has the bigger gun. (or bomb, or plane, or ship etc).

... that's gonna smart

I doubt it - it is already too far over the stupid line.

Ostriches eventually die.

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I'm just curious if you actually know what the difference between illegal and legal is.

America has taught the world that the distinction between legal and illegal is completely immaterial. The only thing that matters is who has the bigger gun. (or bomb, or plane, or ship etc).

... that's gonna smart

I doubt it - it is already too far over the stupid line.

Ostriches eventually die.

Of course they do. They can only give me so many tasty omlets before they provide me with a tasty burger.

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If anyone just consumes material without questioning where it comes from, they open themselves up to being manipulated by propaganda.

Such as when you posted the Sarah Palin story at the restaurant without reservations. You were manipulated.





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