Walking into Wal-Mart today

[rhaig 0]

well I was thinking of:

Quote

"And God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness. They shall rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the cattle, the whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on the earth.' And God created man in His image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them and God said to them, 'Be fertile and increase, fill the earth and master it; and rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, and all the living things that creep on earth." (Genesis 1:26-28)

From which I inferred that the birds, cattle, and creeping things already existed.

though yes, a few pages later the specific order is referenced. (which I totally unremembered)

--
Rob

[Kennedy 0]

So your statement was unfactual?
(sorry, couldn't resist. see DE for further)

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*

[rhaig 0]

yeah. I thought about the word "unremembered" a few times before I hit post.

I didn't want to say "forgot" because once bill mentioned it the lightbulb went off and I remembered it. I didn't mis-remember it, and oddly enough, "unremembered" doesn't get dinged by the spell-checker. Doesn't mean it's a word, but I'm justifying myself by this point anyway so I'll stick with that story.

--
Rob

[Coreece 190]

Quote

While I would not support a tax on Islamic churches, I would support one for all religious institutions.

So are you saying that you're against the seperation of church and state? I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion in our government. How bout we keep it like it is and let the employees of these institutions pay there own taxes.

Btw, there are no Islamic Churches...that's like an oxymoron.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[billvon 3,080]

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.

Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

[skipbelt 0]

Quote

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.
Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

you mean non profits ?

[Coreece 190]

Quote

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.

Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

Because it seems like patronage...to close for comfort to me...the next thing all thes religious instituions are gonna be making huge demands on the government and religion will have influence on the lives of those who don't want it more than it already has.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[billvon 3,080]

>you mean non profits ?

Sure, if they fall under the rules for nonprofits.

[Andy9o8 2]

Quote

Quote

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.

Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

you mean non profits ?

Not an unreasonable idea; but remember: non-profits must regularly prove themselves as such; for example, via regular audits of their books. How much really close scrutiny are some religious organizations willing to subject themselves to - especially those with, shall we say, substantial "offshore" holdings...

[billvon 3,080]

>How much really close scrutiny are some religious organizations willing to
>subject themselves to - especially those with, shall we say, substantial
>"offshore" holdings...

No problem; they can file as a for-profit organization in that case.

[Kennedy 0]

I wasn't going after you, I was referencing the recent republican primary winner in Delaware. When she hit back at Karl Rove (which was completely justified), she was ... less than articulate.

OK so I was going at you a little bit.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*

[Bolas 5]

Quote

Quote

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.

Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

Because it seems like patronage...to close for comfort to me...the next thing all thes religious instituions are gonna be making huge demands on the government and religion will have influence on the lives of those who don't want it more than it already has.

Like they don't already.

Opening up their books will just show how much influence they already have and where it's going.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[loumeinhart 0]

Quote

the product sold is usually deemed to be covered by an "implied warranty of merchantibility",

interesting. Also found this on wikipedia:

In the United States, the obligation is in Article 2, Section 315 of the Uniform Commercial Code. The warranty of fitness differs from a warranty of merchantability in that it applies to all sellers, not only professional merchants. In the United States, this warranty is sometimes referred to simply as a warranty of fitness.

[Andy9o8 2]

Quote

Quote

the product sold is usually deemed to be covered by an "implied warranty of merchantibility",

interesting. Also found this on wikipedia:

In the United States, the obligation is in Article 2, Section 315 of the Uniform Commercial Code. The warranty of fitness differs from a warranty of merchantability in that it applies to all sellers, not only professional merchants. In the United States, this warranty is sometimes referred to simply as a warranty of fitness.

I learned that term as "warranty of fitness for a particular purpose." It applies, for example, if the steak knife you bought at WalMart breaks after just a few uses cutting meat at the dinner table (i.e., the "particular purpose" for which it was marketed). But if you're using the knife to practice your bad-ass knife-throwing technique into the drywall in your room, and the blade breaks, it doesn't apply.

Usually, when you have to sue a seller for a defective product, it's prudent to sue under each/both warranties.

[Coreece 190]

Quote

Quote

Quote

> I don't want the government in my "religion" and we don't want religion
>in our government.

Agreed. But that hardly means "no taxes on churches." Why not treat churches like any other business, without any special treatment?

Because it seems like patronage...to close for comfort to me...the next thing all thes religious instituions are gonna be making huge demands on the government and religion will have influence on the lives of those who don't want it more than it already has.

Like they don't already.

As you can see, I've already toched on this point.

Personally I don't care if Muslims, Mormons, Scientologists and Christians gain more political clout...I've been primed to live happily in any environment. (Though I wouldn't really want any strong politically voiced Christian sending the wrong message about Christianity.)

But, many people here (maybe even yourself included) have a problem with religious political clout, so I'm suprised you'd want to go down a road that would make it stronger.

If I have any concern, it's protecting Churches from any political pressure especially from future government officials that we don't even know yet.

Quote

Opening up their books will just show how much influence they already have and where it's going.

The only book you should worry about opening is the Bible.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...