JohnRich 4 #26 September 13, 2010 QuoteActually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off. Like building a mosque near the 9/11 New York City site, with overtones of muslim conquest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuote But, to that point, the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of of Christians. So the thousands of anti American violent Muslims are extremists not indicative of the religion-but one dickweed in Florida is representative of all Christians. Where did I say that?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote But, to that point, the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of of Christians. So the thousands of anti American violent Muslims are extremists not indicative of the religion-but one dickweed in Florida is representative of all Christians. Where did I say that? The part about Christians is quoted already, as for Muslims, how about here? QuoteThe terrorists are simply terrorists. Being Muslim has nothing to do with them also having some other rather fucked up points of view. Certainly looks like his claim is valid.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #29 September 13, 2010 Uh, yeah, because when a person names specific people, they do mean all. You make less and less sense with every post you make on this. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #30 September 13, 2010 and your denials, redirects and reversals get more amusing by the postYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #31 September 13, 2010 Quoteand your denials, redirects and reversals get more amusing by the post I'll admit to denying the false accusations of Mikey, but there have been no redirects or reversals.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #32 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteActually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off.Like building a mosque near the 9/11 New York City site, with overtones of muslim conquest?a lot of wisdom in this post , i would have attempted to be more confrontational , instead of near near............, i would have substituted on ground zero , instead of overtones i would have substituted overt provocations such as cordoba initiative . the constitution is not a suicide pact ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 September 13, 2010 Quote Uh, yeah, because when a person names specific people, they do mean all. I'm sorry, I must have missed where you said "the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of one Christian." Quote You make less and less sense with every post you make on this. You're more and more fun the more you try to squirm out of what you said.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteand your denials, redirects and reversals get more amusing by the post I'll admit to denying the false accusations of Mikey, but there have been no redirects or reversals. False accusations? Your fantasy world, Pauly - might as set it up how you want it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 September 13, 2010 Quote Quote Uh, yeah, because when a person names specific people, they do mean all. I'm sorry, I must have missed where you said "the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of one Christian." Wow can you misread something when you're motivated. Terry Jones is a pastor of a Christian church. He does, in fact, represent a group of Christians. Some very specific ones he ministers to. In much the same way that GWB made Americans look bad in the eyes of the world, Terry Jones has diminished Christians. I called Terry Jones out SPECIFICALLY. What IS your fuckin' problem?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #36 September 13, 2010 Quote What IS your fuckin' problem? Judging from this reaction I'm guessing his 'problem' is hitting too close for your comfort.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 September 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Uh, yeah, because when a person names specific people, they do mean all. I'm sorry, I must have missed where you said "the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of one Christian." Wow can you misread something when you're motivated. Terry Jones is a pastor of a Christian church. He does, in fact, represent a group of Christians. Some very specific ones he ministers to. In much the same way that GWB made Americans look bad in the eyes of the world, Terry Jones has diminished Christians. I called Terry Jones out SPECIFICALLY. Yes, you did - and tied him to ALL Christians - not himself, not his church. And you do it again, directly above "has diminished Christians".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #38 September 13, 2010 libs did very well before researching past statements became so simple. they HATE to concede truth if it interferes with their agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #39 September 13, 2010 Quotelibs did very well before researching past statements became so simple. they HATE to concede truth if it interferes with their agenda. It was also much easier back when most of the people on the internet were literate and could both read and comprehend was was being written or weren't so caught up in petty games of "I win, you lose" they'd actually have a conversation about a topic rather than just piss and moan all over it. I swear, you'd think a person could call Terry Jones, of all people, an asshole without somebody making a bunch of bullshit posts reading non-sense into it, but I guess that's far beyond some people here.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #40 September 13, 2010 I swear, you'd think a person, when confronted with their own words would admit that their bias was showing, but I guess that's far beyond some people here.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #41 September 13, 2010 QuoteThe current religious intolerance in the US for anybody that isn't Christian is getting pretty scary. I'm not sure I really agree with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #42 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuotelibs did very well before researching past statements became so simple. they HATE to concede truth if it interferes with their agenda. It was also much easier back when most of the people on the internet were literate and could both read and comprehend was was being written or weren't so caught up in petty games of "I win, you lose" they'd actually have a conversation about a topic rather than just piss and moan all over it. I swear, you'd think a person could call Terry Jones, of all people, an asshole without somebody making a bunch of bullshit posts reading non-sense into it, but I guess that's far beyond some people here. Uh huh . . . Have you ever heard the phrase "It takes 2 to Tango"? You are at least as much, if not more, commited to trying to win as anyone else in this thread.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #43 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotelibs did very well before researching past statements became so simple. they HATE to concede truth if it interferes with their agenda.It was also much easier back when most of the people on the internet were literate and could both read and comprehend was was being written or weren't so caught up in petty games of "I win, you lose" they'd actually have a conversation about a topic rather than just piss and moan all over it.I swear, you'd think a person could call Terry Jones, of all people, an asshole without somebody making a bunch of bullshit posts reading non-sense into it, but I guess that's far beyond some people here.Uh huh . . . Have you ever heard the phrase "It takes 2 to Tango"?You are at least as much, if not more, commited to trying to win as anyone else in this thread.a conversation is a two way discourse , it becomes a harangue and demogoary when it becomes dishonest , recalcitrant and intransigent ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #44 September 13, 2010 Quotea conversation is a two way discourse , it becomes a harangue and demogoary when it becomes dishonest , recalcitrant and intransigent ! No, a conversation can still be dishonest, recalcitrant, or intransigent. After all: did too did not did too did not did too did not is a conversation, as long as the participants are on reasonably equal footing. According to Wikipedia, Demagogy or demagoguery is a strategy for gaining political power by appealing to the prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public—typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist, populist or religious themes. A harangue is a monolog. In both cases, I'd have to say that the majority of the current crop of political radio folks are both demagogs and haranguers... Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #45 September 13, 2010 Quote Quote a conversation is a two way discourse , it becomes a harangue and demogoary when it becomes dishonest , recalcitrant and intransigent ! No, a conversation can still be dishonest, recalcitrant, or intransigent. After all: did too did not did too did not did too did not is a conversation, as long as the participants are on reasonably equal footing. According to Wikipedia, Demagogy or demagoguery is a strategy for gaining political power by appealing to the prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public—typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist, populist or religious themes. A harangue is a monolog. In both cases, I'd have to say that the majority of the current crop of political radio folks are both demagogs and haranguers... Wendy P. With special, extra credit given to the political radio folks on NPR.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #46 September 13, 2010 QuoteWith special, extra credit given to the political radio folks on NPR.Which ones would those be? I was thinking of the likes of Rush, Beck, and Schultz. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #47 September 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteWith special, extra credit given to the political radio folks on NPR.Which ones would those be? I was thinking of the likes of Rush, Beck, and Schultz.Wendy P.we don't seem to be conversing , although i'd like to ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #48 September 13, 2010 Quote Quote With special, extra credit given to the political radio folks on NPR. Which ones would those be? I was thinking of the likes of Rush, Beck, and Schultz. Wendy P. Neal Conan Ira Flatow Michael Feldman Robert Siegel, Michele Norris, and Melissa Block Terry Gross Tom and Ray Magliozzi Kai Ryssdal Garrison Keillor Steve Inskeep and Renée Montagne Fiona Ritchie Peter Sagal Scott Simon and Liane Hansen Tom Ashbrook Lisa Mullins Brooke Gladstone and Bob Garfield Ira Glass Take your pick.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #49 September 13, 2010 Yeah, the Car Talk guys are political commentators. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #50 September 13, 2010 I guess I see a dedicated radio show about current affairs and politics (which would describe Rush, Beck & Schultz pretty accurately) as being different from one about cars where they also express their (admittedly liberal) opinions (like Car Talk). Dave Ramsay is a pretty conservative guy and that comes across, but I don't see him as being a political talker. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites