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Actually, is shows how fanatical this religion really is. For a religion of peace that is[:/]
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Actually, is shows how fanatical this religion really is. For a religion of peace that is[:/]



Actually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off.

Terry Jones has made the situation worse and not better.
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Actually, is shows how fanatical this religion really is. For a religion of peace that is[:/]



Actually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off.


"Peace in our time!!!"

(How'd that work out, btw?)
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Actually, is shows how fanatical this religion really is. For a religion of peace that is[:/]


Actually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off.

"Peace in our time!!!"
(How'd that work out, btw?)


Considering it's a misquote to begin with . . .

Anyway, I'm not talking about making peace with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. I'm talking about a general respect for the 1.6 billion other Islamics that have nothing at all to do with extremism.

The current religious intolerance in the US for anybody that isn't Christian is getting pretty scary. It's certainly something the founding fathers didn't intend and it's nothing like anything I've ever seen in my lifetime except by extremists of our own such as the KKK.
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Actually, is shows how fanatical this religion really is. For a religion of peace that is[:/]


Actually, it shows that if you want people to like you, you probably shouldn't do things designed to piss them off.

"Peace in our time!!!"
(How'd that work out, btw?)


Considering it's a misquote to begin with . . .

Anyway, I'm not talking about making peace with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. I'm talking about a general respect for the 1.6 billion other Islamics that have nothing at all to do with extremism.


I must have missed where your new clipping said 1.6 billion Muslims engaged in acts of violence - can you point it out to me?

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The current religious intolerance in the US for anybody that isn't Christian is getting pretty scary. It's certainly something the founding fathers didn't intend and it's nothing like anything I've ever seen in my lifetime except by extremists of our own such as the KKK.



No bias THERE, Paul... your 'race card' get filled up so you're trying to max out your 'religion card' now?
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No bias THERE, Paul... your 'race card' get filled up so you're trying to max out your 'religion card' now?



Well, obviously Mike. I mean, doesn't everybody know how extremely religious of a person I am?

/sigh

No. What I'm attempting to play, if anything, is the sanity card. If people want to go on the attack against terrorists, I'm with them 100%. If they want to attack the Islamic religion by burning religious texts, I'm sorry, but that's an unsupportable position.
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No bias THERE, Paul... your 'race card' get filled up so you're trying to max out your 'religion card' now?



Well, obviously Mike. I mean, doesn't everybody know how extremely religious of a person I am?

/sigh

No. What I'm attempting to play, if anything, is the sanity card. If people want to go on the attack against terrorists, I'm with them 100%. If they want to attack the Islamic religion by burning religious texts, I'm sorry, but that's an unsupportable position.



Your only concern seems to be appeasement of Muslim sensibilities, while simultaneously calling any Christians that are offended by Muslim actions hatemongers.
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Your only concern seems to be appeasement of Muslim sensibilities, while simultaneously calling any Christians that are offended by Muslim actions hatemongers.



Then you need to reread what I wrote.

It's not about "appeasement", it's about not being an asshole to begin with.

I never called Christians hate mongers, I said that American is growing in its intolerance of anything that isn't Christian.

But, to that point, the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of of Christians.
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Your only concern seems to be appeasement of Muslim sensibilities, while simultaneously calling any Christians that are offended by Muslim actions hatemongers.



Then you need to reread what I wrote.

It's not about "appeasement", it's about not being an asshole to begin with.



Call it what you want - it's still appeasement. If you were so concerned about 'being an asshole', you would have been posting this same thing in the 'burn the bible' thread.

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I never called Christians hate mongers, I said that American is growing in its intolerance of anything that isn't Christian.



Yes, it's just terrible...it's so *intolerant* of all those people saying that the Park 51 project has a right to build the mosque.
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Call it what you want - it's still appeasement. If you were so concerned about 'being an asshole', you would have been posting this same thing in the 'burn the bible' thread.



And exactly what did you think started the chain of events leading to that thread being created? Terry Jones.

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Yes, it's just terrible...it's so *intolerant* of all those people saying that the Park 51 project has a right to build the mosque.


What about the uproar over mosques in Kentucky or Temecula? What's the justification for people being against those?

In case you didn't see it this morning, here's a story about what's happening nation-wide;
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6858946n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0
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And exactly what did you think started the chain of events leading to that thread being created? Terry Jones.



Still missed your condemnation of the idea of people burning a bible, Paul - maybe you can point out your post to me.

Oh, wait - I forgot - it's only "being an asshole" when it's offensive to the Muslims, isn't it?

Keep feeding that crocodile, hoping he'll eat you last, Paul.
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Still missed your condemnation of the idea of people burning a bible, Paul - maybe you can point out your post to me.



You might want to expand your search. I think you'll find I'm against all book burning.
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Still missed your condemnation of the idea of people burning a bible, Paul - maybe you can point out your post to me.



You might want to expand your search. I think you'll find I'm against all book burning.



The two threads I was able to find about bibles being burnt (one within the last couple days) were conspicuous by your absence, Paul. I supposed "book burning" really reads "Qur'an burning" in your dictionary.

FBI UCR hate crime info (NB: Anti-Christian is anti-Catholic and anti-Protestant, combined):

2001:
Anti Jewish: 57.06%
Anti Islamic: 26.31%
Anti Christian: 3.99%

2002:
Anti Jewish: 66.69%
Anti Islamic: 10.87%
Anti Christian: 7.57%

2003:
Anti Jewish: 69.02%
Anti Islamic: 11.09%
Anti Christian: 9.31%

2004:
Anti Jewish: 69.43%
Anti Islamic: 11.35
Anti Christian: 6.91%

2005:
Anti Jewish: 69.11%
Anti Islamic: 10.43%
Anti Christian: 9.29%

2006:
Anti Jewish: 66.14%
Anti Islamic: 10.67%
Anti Christian: 9.23%

2007:
Anti Jewish: 69.21%
Anti Islamic: 8.21%
Anti Christian: 8.43%

2008:
Anti Jewish: 66.69%
Anti Islamic: 6.91%
Anti Christian: 8.62%

I look forward to your posts against the anti-Jewish and (more recently) anti-Christian factions, Paul.
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The two threads I was able to find about bibles being burnt (one within the last couple days) were conspicuous by your absence, Paul. I supposed "book burning" really reads "Qur'an burning" in your dictionary.



So, lemme get this straight, in order to be considered as being against book burning I have to respond to every crackpot thread that mentions it on this web site?

Naw, I don't think that's how it works.

Why exactly do you think I created this thread?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3903828

Is it because I was "only" against burning the Quran? Nope.
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The two threads I was able to find about bibles being burnt (one within the last couple days) were conspicuous by your absence, Paul. I supposed "book burning" really reads "Qur'an burning" in your dictionary.



So, lemme get this straight, in order to be considered as being against book burning I have to respond to every crackpot thread that mentions it on this web site?



Didn't make that claim, no - but if you actually meant what you said about attacking religions I would have expected a post denigrating the burning of the bible.

What we got was.....*crickets*

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Naw, I don't think that's how it works.



Of course not - you couldn't use the strawman as a shield, then.

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Why exactly do you think I created this thread?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3903828

Is it because I was "only" against burning the Quran? Nope.



Really? I can't seem to find your posts speaking out against Andrewwhyte, Dark, kidwicked, yoink, and Meso where they stated they would burn religious books in that thread. Invisible font, perhaps?
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Really? I can't seem to find your posts speaking out against Andrewwhyte, Dark, kidwicked, yoink, and Meso where they stated they would burn religious books in that thread. Invisible font, perhaps?



The entire point of the thread was to show how silly the idea of book burning is. If that wasn't blatantly obvious enough for you, I doubt there's little point in discussing it.
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Really? I can't seem to find your posts speaking out against Andrewwhyte, Dark, kidwicked, yoink, and Meso where they stated they would burn religious books in that thread. Invisible font, perhaps?



The entire point of the thread is show how silly the idea of book burning is. If that wasn't blatantly obvious enough for you, I doubt there's little point in discussing it.



So long as said book is the Qur'an, yes....and yes, it was blatantly obvious (that it was only about the Qur'an, that is.).
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Really? I can't seem to find your posts speaking out against Andrewwhyte, Dark, kidwicked, yoink, and Meso where they stated they would burn religious books in that thread. Invisible font, perhaps?


The entire point of the thread is show how silly the idea of book burning is. If that wasn't blatantly obvious enough for you, I doubt there's little point in discussing it.


So long as said book is the Qur'an, yes....and yes, it was blatantly obvious (that it was only about the Qur'an, that is.).



So, where in the thread does it say that Mikey?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3903828

I could swear a number of different books were mentioned and it would be silly to burn (ban) any of them. That was my entire point.

Where do you get your ideas from; thin air?
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Yep, he's an asshole. Even an asshat. Personally I like calling him a fuckwit. Courtesy of the Amazon, I also consider him goat fuck stupid. He's also very good at getting attention. He also didn't actually burn the book.

Thankfully, we have this thing called the constitution, that includes things like protecting freedom of speech. And luckily, freedom of speech includes speech by assholes, thingsoatbof us consider offensive. We can't control what extremists on another country are going to do about asshat fuckwits in ours.

Since the country has, by and large, come out against this, and leaders have stated they oppose it, what else would you have people do? Or is this an aimless but completely understandable rant?
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Really? I can't seem to find your posts speaking out against Andrewwhyte, Dark, kidwicked, yoink, and Meso where they stated they would burn religious books in that thread. Invisible font, perhaps?


The entire point of the thread is show how silly the idea of book burning is. If that wasn't blatantly obvious enough for you, I doubt there's little point in discussing it.


So long as said book is the Qur'an, yes....and yes, it was blatantly obvious (that it was only about the Qur'an, that is.).



So, where in the thread does it say that Mikey?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3903828



That reply was for THIS thread, Pauly. You said nothing in the bible burning thread, but you're all up in arms about the Qur'an being burned in at least 2 threads.

Given the evidence, I'm sure you'll forgive me if I find your argument to be...let's call it 'unconvincing'.

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I could swear a number of different books were mentioned and it would be silly to burn (ban) any of them. That was my entire point.



Really? So, again, you can show where you countered the posts by Andrewwhyte, Dark, yoink, kidwicked and Meso in the other thread, when they mentioned banning religious books - yes?

We'll wait.
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I agree with Kennedy in saying that Terry Jones is an asshole, an asshat and a fuckwit. But since when did you ever think you could win the hearts and minds of Muslims? Their values are polar opposites of the values Liberals like yourself hold.


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But, to that point, the actions of Terry Jones doesn't help the image of of Christians.



So the thousands of anti American violent Muslims are extremists not indicative of the religion-but one dickweed in Florida is representative of all Christians.
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