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No, I mean the one that he made at 1.24PM, which was the first post I replied to.

Jesus H Christ Mike, it's a short thread, even you should be able to follow those clues.:S



Doesn't say 1:24 on my screen - regardless, the post where he said he didn't care where it was built - the same as he said in the post I quoted.

You're still out.


Only if you cherry pick the bit of the post that doesn't relate to what I've been talking about, and ignore the bit that does.

But why anyone would wilfully make themself look so abysmally clueless in the name of a cheap and petty attempt at point scoring is absolutely beyond me.
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Just out of curiosity, where were all the people who thought this was a bad idea Last December?

Right now we have half a dozen threads with probably 600 posts.

Where was all this outrage 9 months ago?

And if it is an "in your face" provocation, they sure took their time getting in our faces about it.



Exactly! Not to mention that the one mention of the mosque on Fox News back then was a distinctly positive one.

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Laura Ingraham to the Imam's wife: I like what you're trying to do.



Could there be any more convincing evidence that this whole "controversy" was completely ginned up for political purposes?



Hey once THE BIG BUG BRAIN gets all his minions "outraged" on the EIB... you see the result:S:S

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Only if you cherry pick the bit of the post that doesn't relate to what I've been talking about, and ignore the bit that does.



Well, by all means, then... show where he said another mosque wasn't needed - you can't, because he didn't. You may have INTERPRETED it that way, but that's not what he said.

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But why anyone would wilfully make themself look so abysmally clueless in the name of a cheap and petty attempt at point scoring is absolutely beyond me.



Evidently not, you do it all the time.
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Well, by all means, then... show where he said another mosque wasn't needed - you can't, because he didn't. You may have INTERPRETED it that way, but that's not what he said.



Doesn't it get boring, constantly pretending not to be able to understand the meaning behind people's words? If you really were that limited I'd have to say a) step away from the grownups conversations and b) get yourself tested for Aspergers.

Funny thing is, even if your ridiculous attempted pedantry was correct, my point would still be valid. You cannot assume that just because the site is in the vicinity of another mosque the site has been chosen to piss people off. Can't do it. Too many other factors in play.

Furthermore, to use your own juvenile bullshit against you I might challenge you to show me where I said anything that would suggest that I was saying "it's not needed there" was the main argument against the mosque?

I'm now fascinated to see what your next twist is going to be.
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Well, by all means, then... show where he said another mosque wasn't needed - you can't, because he didn't. You may have INTERPRETED it that way, but that's not what he said.



Doesn't it get boring, constantly pretending not to be able to understand the meaning behind people's words?



You tell me - you're the one that can't seem to understand the words "they can build it where they want".

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If you really were that limited I'd have to say a) step away from the grownups conversations and b) get yourself tested for Aspergers.



Mayhaps you should take your own advice.

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Funny thing is, even if your ridiculous attempted pedantry was correct, my point would still be valid. You cannot assume that just because the site is in the vicinity of another mosque the site has been chosen to piss people off. Can't do it. Too many other factors in play.



Like those factors that you only demand the anti-mosque crowd provide before you'll accept their argument as valid, yes?

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Furthermore, to use your own juvenile bullshit against you I might challenge you to show me where I said anything that would suggest that I was saying "it's not needed there" was the main argument against the mosque?



Like you did in post 26, perhaps?

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But if I wanted to assert that a mosque was completely un-neccesary (and therefore it's developers were deliberate rabble rousers) simply because it was in the vicinity of another mosque, I would make sure I knew the answers to some of those questions before I did so.


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You tell me - you're the one that can't seem to understand the words "they can build it where they want".



I understand those words just fine. Unlike you, I also understand the words " But, knowing that there is already one 2 blocks away just confirms my feeling that this is a move designed to piss people off." I even understand, again, unlike you, that those words are what I've been talking about.

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Like those factors that you only demand the anti-mosque crowd provide before you'll accept their argument as valid, yes?



I ask for verification from the person on this board who made that argument. If someone made the opposite argument, I'd ask them for it too. That hasn't happened. Unlike you, I'm not in the habit of asking people to back up non-existant claims.

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Furthermore, to use your own juvenile bullshit against you I might challenge you to show me where I said anything that would suggest that I was saying "it's not needed there" was the main argument against the mosque?

Like you did in post 26, perhaps?



No, not like I did in post 26. I did not say that in post 26. I said nothing in post 26 even remotely close to that. I said nothing in post 26 that could lead any rational human to the conclusion that what you said is what I meant. There is no way on this earth that you could legitimately claim to have even INTERPRETED my post that way, let alone claim that I actually said what you say I said.

To ease the confused turmoil of your mind, I must once again refer you to Airdvr's post of 1:24, the first post I replied to.

(BTW, how you can go from demanding absolute, verbatim compliance to just making shit up off the top of your head in the space of a couple of posts is really breathtaking, top notch trolling.)
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You tell me - you're the one that can't seem to understand the words "they can build it where they want".



I understand those words just fine. Unlike you, I also understand the words " But, knowing that there is already one 2 blocks away just confirms my feeling that this is a move designed to piss people off." I even understand, again, unlike you, that those words are what I've been talking about.



I understood what you were talking about - he's still not saying it's un-needed.

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Like those factors that you only demand the anti-mosque crowd provide before you'll accept their argument as valid, yes?



I ask for verification from the person on this board who made that argument. If someone made the opposite argument, I'd ask them for it too. That hasn't happened. Unlike you, I'm not in the habit of asking people to back up non-existant claims.



He didn't make that argument, either....that's all YOUR creation.

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Furthermore, to use your own juvenile bullshit against you I might challenge you to show me where I said anything that would suggest that I was saying "it's not needed there" was the main argument against the mosque?

Like you did in post 26, perhaps?



No, not like I did in post 26. I did not say that in post 26.



"But if I wanted to assert that a mosque was completely un-neccesary"

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I said nothing in post 26 even remotely close to that.



"But if I wanted to assert that a mosque was completely un-neccesary"

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I said nothing in post 26 that could lead any rational human to the conclusion that what you said is what I meant.



"But if I wanted to assert that a mosque was completely un-neccesary"

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There is no way on this earth that you could legitimately claim to have even INTERPRETED my post that way, let alone claim that I actually said what you say I said.



That's your strawman, flog it how you like.

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To ease the confused turmoil of your mind, I must once again refer you to Airdvr's post of 1:24, the first post I replied to.



No, I think we'll keep the discussion on you demanding proof from one side that you're not demanding from the other, thanks.

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(BTW, how you can go from demanding absolute, verbatim compliance to just making shit up off the top of your head in the space of a couple of posts is really breathtaking, top notch trolling.)



I'm just quoting your replies - any "making shit up" is your creation, as well.
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I understood what you were talking about - he's still not saying it's un-needed.



If you can come up with one single reason other than it not being neccesary that makes proximity to another mosque = he's only put it there to piss people off, I'd like to hear it.

And (I'll say it again) my questions are still valid anyway.

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show me where I said anything that would suggest that I was saying "it's not needed there" was the main argument against the mosque?...

"But if I wanted to assert that a mosque was completely un-neccesary"



You must realise how stupid this makes you look. You must realise that each time you repeat it, it only emphasises how far away what I said is from what you say I said.

You must realise it. It's the only way I can believe that you're intelligent enough to be able to type the words.

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I'm just quoting your replies



And my replies are nothing like what you have apparently INTERPRETED (sic) them as.

To repeat: how you can go from demanding absolute, verbatim compliance to just making shit up off the top of your head in the space of a couple of posts is really breathtaking, top notch trolling.
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I understood what you were talking about - he's still not saying it's un-needed.



If you can come up with one single reason other than it not being neccesary that makes proximity to another mosque = he's only put it there to piss people off, I'd like to hear it.



"Location, location, location" - go ask a realtor what that means - or a New Yorker. Even people in the Muslim community are saying it would be a provocation - but you ignore that, as well.

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And (I'll say it again) my questions are still valid anyway.



Never said they weren't - just said it's hypocritical to only demand them from one side to consider their argument valid.

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You must realise how stupid this makes you look. You must realise that each time you repeat it, it only emphasises how far away what I said is from what you say I said.



I realize it illustrates that you keep misconstruing his argument.

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You must realise it. It's the only way I can believe that you're intelligent enough to be able to type the words.



Nice. Unfortunately, I can't extend you the same courtesy regarding intellect.

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I'm just quoting your replies



And my replies are nothing like what you have apparently INTERPRETED (sic) them as.



By all means, show where I have changed your quotes.

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To repeat: how you can go from demanding absolute, verbatim compliance to just making shit up off the top of your head in the space of a couple of posts is really breathtaking, top notch trolling.



Absolute, verbatim compliance to what, jakee?

Quoting your own words isn't 'making shit up off the top of my head' unless your argument was equally 'shit made up off the top of your head' to begin with.

And you *still* don't get the pat on the head for brilliance, either.
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"Location, location, location" - go ask a realtor what that means - or a New Yorker.



"that makes proximity to another mosque = he's only put it there to piss people off"

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I realize it illustrates that you keep misconstruing his argument.



D'oh! That bit you kept repeating was you misrepresenting my argument. You can't even keep your own bullshit straight, can you?

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Absolute, verbatim compliance to what, jakee?



"You may have INTERPRETED it that way, but that's not what he said. "

I have never, in all my days, whether face to face, over the phone or even on the internet come across someone so willing to dig and dig and dig until he's running several lines of complete bullshit all at once rather than acknowledge (or hell, even just abandon it) that his original, unconstructive, point scoring entry into a thread was wide of the mark.

I salute you for it, in it's own way it is an impressive level of commtiment but I honestly can't face sifting through anymore of your gibberish. I is out.

Oh, P.S.

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And you *still* don't get the pat on the head for brilliance, either.



Like I said, that just convinces me I'm on the right track.
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"Location, location, location" - go ask a realtor what that means - or a New Yorker.



"that makes proximity to another mosque = he's only put it there to piss people off"

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I realize it illustrates that you keep misconstruing his argument.



D'oh! That bit you kept repeating was you misrepresenting my argument. You can't even keep your own bullshit straight, can you?



Really? So, where is he saying it's unnecesary vice a provocation, jakee? Point it out for us where he says that.

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Absolute, verbatim compliance to what, jakee?



"You may have INTERPRETED it that way, but that's not what he said. "



That's correct - he's not said it was unnecessary, as you implied.

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I have never, in all my days, whether face to face, over the phone or even on the internet come across someone so willing to dig and dig and dig until he's running several lines of complete bullshit all at once rather than acknowledge (or hell, even just abandon it) that his original, unconstructive, point scoring entry into a thread was wide of the mark.



So how do you shave without looking in the mirror, then, because that's ALL you've done in this thread. You started out with a bullshit argument and then piled more and more on top to try to save face.

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I salute you for it, in it's own way it is an impressive level of commtiment but I honestly can't face sifting through anymore of your gibberish. I is out.



Well, the signal/noise ratio will certainly improve.

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Oh, P.S.

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And you *still* don't get the pat on the head for brilliance, either.



Like I said, that just convinces me I'm on the right track.



Doesn't surprise me in the least - you've gotten everything ELSE ass-backwards, why not that, too?
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Boys, boys. Nice to see my post was worth such bandwidth. :)

What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move. Whether that's your feeling or not Jakee doesn't matter to me.

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I will say one more thing for you.



Awww...I thought you said you were leaving?

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"The main argument."

The. Main. Argument.



Yes, jakee - the main argument. You see, most of the people recognize that they have the legal right to build the mosque - their complaint is against the "location, location, location". They, (as, evidently, some in the Muslim world ) see it as a provocation - as does airdyvr.

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Your flip flop juvenile misdirections fool no-one. You are a troll.



Seeing as this is coming from the person who said "I didn't say that" in response to a direct quote, I find it extremely hilarious.

Don't go away mad, now.... ;)
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.



So once again we have you the liberal attempting to tell me how to feel. Your type are truly amazing...NOT
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It's wrong to tell folks of either persuasion that their feelings are wrong. Feelings are feelings.

Whether it's people telling folks that they shouldn't
- infer an in-your-face intention from the mosque building in Manhattan,
- infer racism from some reactions to affirmative actions
- infer homophobia from a particularly rabid anti-gay-marriage diatribe

feelings are what they are. But, ya know -- we don't always act on those feelings, and that's also OK. We don't even always tell people our feelings (if we did, there'd be a lot more bannings for PAs in SC :ph34r:). And that's also OK.

Because sometimes our first feeling turns out to be disproportionate, or our attitudes change over time.

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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.



So once again we have you the liberal attempting to tell me how to feel.



No, we don't. I'm simply pointing out to you that this piece of evidence does not confirm your feeling.
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D


I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. As one of the top 3 most partisan posters on this forum it is borderline impossible for you to disagree with another right of centre poster, no matter how obvious the ballsup.
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D


I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. As one of the top 3 most partisan posters on this forum it is borderline impossible for you to disagree with another right of centre poster, no matter how obvious the ballsup.


LOL:ph34r:

Wow!

Still won't see the error in your thinking?[:/]
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D


I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. As one of the top 3 most partisan posters on this forum it is borderline impossible for you to disagree with another right of centre poster, no matter how obvious the ballsup.


LOL:ph34r:

Wow!

Still won't see the error in your thinking?[:/]


Point one out we'll see.
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D


I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. As one of the top 3 most partisan posters on this forum it is borderline impossible for you to disagree with another right of centre poster, no matter how obvious the ballsup.


LOL:ph34r:

Wow!

Still won't see the error in your thinking?[:/]


Point one out we'll see.


Asked and answered.
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What I said was it confirms my feeling that this is an 'in your face' move.



And I'm pointing out to you that this single piece of information is insufficient to confirm anything of the sort.
It confirms yo are wrong in your argument with Mike.

It DOES confirm that quite well.:D:D:D


I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. As one of the top 3 most partisan posters on this forum it is borderline impossible for you to disagree with another right of centre poster, no matter how obvious the ballsup.


LOL:ph34r:

Wow!

Still won't see the error in your thinking?[:/]


Point one out we'll see.


Asked and answered.


See, you've got nothing. Just partisan.
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