mnealtx 0 #26 September 6, 2010 QuoteYea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. We were taught well by the neo-coms and Clinton.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 September 6, 2010 QuoteI think the biggest issue is people praying at memorials and statues and stuff. Seriously, this has been illegal since 1965 and people keep doing it. No, it's not.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 September 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteI think the biggest issue is people praying at memorials and statues and stuff. Seriously, this has been illegal since 1965 and people keep doing it. No, it's not. Freedom of religion and religious expression is illegal? I believe he shuld source that one - i have tried but am unable to find where the law was passed making this illegal.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #29 September 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteFunny how you don't seem too indignant when the President tells lie after lie after lie. In fact many of the narcissists deem it necessary to get elected. Funny how you make these claims and back up none. Actually not fuuny, just typical. http://www.factcheck.org/2010/08/obamas-latest-social-security-whopper/ You are soooo fucking easy. No wonder I don't post here anymore. Most of the more intelligent posters left this forum long ago when the whiney bitches showed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #30 September 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteFunny how you don't seem too indignant when the President tells lie after lie after lie. In fact many of the narcissists deem it necessary to get elected. If you wanr to start a thread about Obama, by all means feel free. The fact is when one of your fucking idiot mouth pieces from the right gets caught in an outright lie you need to change the subject. Restoring honer my ass Just the thought of Beck in his magic Mormon underwear is too much, he is a fucking deranged idiot. Right, because the President telling you whoppers and admitting he did it is so on par as some entertainer. Is lies by Miley Cyrus more important to you than the President? Fucking pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 September 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFunny how you don't seem too indignant when the President tells lie after lie after lie. In fact many of the narcissists deem it necessary to get elected. If you wanr to start a thread about Obama, by all means feel free. The fact is when one of your fucking idiot mouth pieces from the right gets caught in an outright lie you need to change the subject. Restoring honer my ass Just the thought of Beck in his magic Mormon underwear is too much, he is a fucking deranged idiot. If Obamas series of lies not a problem then Becks should not be either Seems an appropriate point to me Oh, and I dont give a rats ass what goes on in your mind Right, let's avoid the issue; your hero caught in a lie and transpose it with your unsupported claim of Obama's alleged lie that you haven't brought forward yet. If you're going to build a strawman, at least give us the strawman; you haven't even done that yet. I have posted some of his lies here before To prove it to you is like pissing into the wind So the straw up your ass keeps you from seeing Interesting at least"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 September 6, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Get caught telling a lie at a Restore Honor rally. www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-glenn-beck-admits-to-lying-about-washington-s-inaugural-address-at-restoring-honor-rally ____________________________________ Glenn Beck draws 300-400 thousand people to a peaceful non political rally and the progressives look for anything to make this look bad...got it.. Yea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. Well, we have yet to see you show you think otherwise with you tingly leg support of Obama"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #33 September 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteI think the biggest issue is people praying at memorials and statues and stuff. Seriously, this has been illegal since 1965 and people keep doing it. No, it's not. Of course it's not illegal. (the post was sarcastic) It was one of the things these brilliant tea party muppets at the removing honor rally was claiming. hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg&feature=player_embedded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #34 September 7, 2010 QuoteWell, there you have it. Proof positive that the U.S.A. should become 100% socialist. Happy Socialist Day, 6 Sep 10, to all. Thank you. Of course, with the other 364 days being Petty Fascist Pig Bourgeoisie Day, why begrudge us one lousy day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #35 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Get caught telling a lie at a Restore Honor rally. www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-glenn-beck-admits-to-lying-about-washington-s-inaugural-address-at-restoring-honor-rally ____________________________________ Glenn Beck draws 300-400 thousand people to a peaceful non political rally and the progressives look for anything to make this look bad...got it.. Yea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. Well, we have yet to see you show you think otherwise with you tingly leg support of Obama Show me his lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Get caught telling a lie at a Restore Honor rally. www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-glenn-beck-admits-to-lying-about-washington-s-inaugural-address-at-restoring-honor-rally ____________________________________ Glenn Beck draws 300-400 thousand people to a peaceful non political rally and the progressives look for anything to make this look bad...got it.. Yea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. Well, we have yet to see you show you think otherwise with you tingly leg support of Obama Show me his lies. How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #37 September 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteWell, there you have it. Proof positive that the U.S.A. should become 100% socialist. Happy Socialist Day, 6 Sep 10, to all. Thank you. Of course, with the other 364 days being Petty Fascist Pig Bourgeoisie Day, why begrudge us one lousy day? Well, don't forget May 1, International Worker's Day. That's 2 lousy days."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #38 September 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, there you have it. Proof positive that the U.S.A. should become 100% socialist. Happy Socialist Day, 6 Sep 10, to all. Thank you. Of course, with the other 364 days being Petty Fascist Pig Bourgeoisie Day, why begrudge us one lousy day? Well, don't forget May 1, International Worker's Day. That's 2 lousy days. OK, fine. The People - 2 Il Fascisiti - 363 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,603 #39 September 7, 2010 Quote How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs Is that because they haven't lowered it yet? I don't believe that there's even accessible HC plans for much of the country yet. While this is by no means a great plan, I do think that access to HC will reduce a lot of people's costs in the long run, just as regular maintenance on your car can reduce car costs in the long run. Of course, taking care of our bodies in the first place does an even better job , but who wants to eat right and exercise Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs Is that because they haven't lowered it yet? I don't believe that there's even accessible HC plans for much of the country yet. While this is by no means a great plan, I do think that access to HC will reduce a lot of people's costs in the long run, just as regular maintenance on your car can reduce car costs in the long run. Of course, taking care of our bodies in the first place does an even better job , but who wants to eat right and exercise Wendy P. The CBO and the DEMS now say the bill will not lower costs in the future and will add to the deficit. The plan and the selling points were all a big lie Predictions of 20% increases and loss in coverage for many companies under the proposed bill Problem is none of the major media outlets are doing any regular reporting on these facts including the vilified FOX cable network"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #41 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Get caught telling a lie at a Restore Honor rally. www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-glenn-beck-admits-to-lying-about-washington-s-inaugural-address-at-restoring-honor-rally ____________________________________ Glenn Beck draws 300-400 thousand people to a peaceful non political rally and the progressives look for anything to make this look bad...got it.. Yea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. Well, we have yet to see you show you think otherwise with you tingly leg support of Obama Show me his lies. How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs Ruskeepoo, hate to bust your bubble, but the main provisions don't kik in until 2014 and even then, AFTER they kick in and are allowed to implement, if they don't do as promised, then you have to prove he did so out of deceit. So try again, show me his lies; we'll start again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #42 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs Is that because they haven't lowered it yet? I don't believe that there's even accessible HC plans for much of the country yet. While this is by no means a great plan, I do think that access to HC will reduce a lot of people's costs in the long run, just as regular maintenance on your car can reduce car costs in the long run. Of course, taking care of our bodies in the first place does an even better job , but who wants to eat right and exercise Wendy P. This is a ridiculous rendering from Rushy, the provisions don't kick in until 2014; then we have to wait to see if they do lower the deficit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Get caught telling a lie at a Restore Honor rally. www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-glenn-beck-admits-to-lying-about-washington-s-inaugural-address-at-restoring-honor-rally ____________________________________ Glenn Beck draws 300-400 thousand people to a peaceful non political rally and the progressives look for anything to make this look bad...got it.. Yea, only a true neo-con could think lying is honorable. Well, we have yet to see you show you think otherwise with you tingly leg support of Obama Show me his lies. How about the 2 biggies 1 HC will lower the deficit 2 HC will lower insurance or HC costs Ruskeepoo, hate to bust your bubble, but the main provisions don't kik in until 2014 and even then, AFTER they kick in and are allowed to implement, if they don't do as promised, then you have to prove he did so out of deceit. So try again, show me his lies; we'll start again. I know when they kick in I also am reading and seeing the eval of this bill and the effects coming Lie 1, it will not reduce the deficit as stated Lie 2, it will not reduce HC costs as stated How about the lie of debate on CSPAN? Or about the porkulas bill keeping the unemployement below a level? Could go on but you still got your rose colored glasses on"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #44 September 7, 2010 And these are kind of fun to read through I do realize howerve that I would bet most if not all politions could have such a list http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/ I await your trashing of the site and your ignoring of the content"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #45 September 7, 2010 I'm going to set aside the issue of whether or not your examples constitute lies. Can you at least admit that there is a differernce in lying about something that has already happened ("I held the document in my hands") and something that may happen in the future ("this bill will lower the deficit")? Glenn Beck knew he was lying about what he said. Can you at least allow that? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #46 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, there you have it. Proof positive that the U.S.A. should become 100% socialist. Happy Socialist Day, 6 Sep 10, to all. Thank you. Of course, with the other 364 days being Petty Fascist Pig Bourgeoisie Day, why begrudge us one lousy day? Well, don't forget May 1, International Worker's Day. That's 2 lousy days. OK, fine. The People - 2 Il Fascisiti - 363 Well, many communists still celebrate Oct 25th (the overthrow of the Russian Czar). That's three. Next there will be 4, then 5, and the next thing you know, we'll all be singing the "Internationale" in the streets every day.Either that or THIS. I looked for the old SNL one by the "American Dope Growers", but I couldn't find it. Edit to add: Found It! second video down."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #47 September 7, 2010 QuoteI'm going to set aside the issue of whether or not your examples constitute lies. Can you at least admit that there is a differernce in lying about something that has already happened ("I held the document in my hands") and something that may happen in the future ("this bill will lower the deficit")? Glenn Beck knew he was lying about what he said. Can you at least allow that? If he admited that then yes He has also said repeatedly that if he is wrong on something he wants the people to tell him I have not seen or heard what he said, what he said about it or any comment following this The only place I have seen anything about it is on this site Do you take all you see here to be tht absolute truth? In reality, I am still waiting to see what more comes of this"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #48 September 7, 2010 QuoteDo you take all you see here to be tht absolute truth? That's funny. All I know is what was linked in the OP, which claims that Beck admitted he lied about holding the document in his hands in order to make his story easier to tell. Of course, the link is to an "article" in the Examiner, which is a total shit source, so who knows. My point is simply that telling falsehoods about things that have happened is different that telling falsehoods about things you hope will happen in the future. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #49 September 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteDo you take all you see here to be tht absolute truth? That's funny. All I know is what was linked in the OP, which claims that Beck admitted he lied about holding the document in his hands in order to make his story easier to tell. Of course, the link is to an "article" in the Examiner, which is a total shit source, so who knows. My point is simply that telling falsehoods about things that have happened is different that telling falsehoods about things you hope will happen in the future. ....or know what will most likely happen? Based on numbers? Not much different in my mind Especially since the Dems are admitting now that the HC will not hold costs down or improve coverage or reduce the deficit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #50 September 7, 2010 So, do you believe that Billy's statement, "Johnny threw the rock," when in fact Billy himself threw the rock, is just as much a lie as when Billy said, "Mom, I promise that I will get all A's this semester," when Billy wasn't sure what his grades would be? Can you at least admit (if not in writing, then in your own mind) that if Obama lied about holding Washington's Inaugural Address in his own hands, that you would throw a royal shit fit? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
