Who Is The Man Behind The Ground Zero Mosque?

[rushmc 23]

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>I am sure billvon and others would support the KKK building
>something on the site where MLK was killed too

The KKK's not a religion.

But if a Baptist parish wanted to renovate its church two and a half blocks from where MLK was killed, and there were a lot of KKK members in the church, then yes, the situation would be similar - and they should have the same right to renovate their church as this group has to renovate the building on Park Street.

You are correct
The KKK is not a religion, it is a belief.
that is what we are dealing with here

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Given all I have read about this here, I am sure billvon and others would support the KKK building something on the site where MLK was killed too

So you think it is ok to lump the KKK and Muslims into the same category? A better analogy would be to say that we would have a problem with Al Queda building a building at ground zero. It was Al Queda not all Muslims that flew the planes into the WTC was it not? If you wanted a fair comparison you could say that we would have a problem with a church being built where MLK was shot but that wouldn't fit into your lie because you know nobody would have a problem with it. There is about as much connection between Al Queda and the general Muslim population as there is between the KKK and Christians.

So you think that is what I think?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,114]

>The KKK is not a religion, it is a belief.

Well, no, the KKK is a right wing political and religious organization. They have every right to believe whatever they choose about blacks, muslims, nationalism and white supremacy. They can belong to any religion they choose, although they currently define themselves as Protestant Christian.

However, as part of a Protestant church, they can build their churches anywhere anyone else can.

[okalb 104]

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So you think that is what I think?

I don't really care what you "think" how about you respond to the actual post instead of playing some stupid game!

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

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So you think that is what I think?

I don't really care what you "think" how about you respond to the actual post instead of playing some stupid game!

And a responce I will give if you dont try and put words in my mouth or tell me what I think

YOUR game got crushed
Live with it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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>The KKK is not a religion, it is a belief.

Well, no, the KKK is a right wing political and religious organization. They have every right to believe whatever they choose about blacks, muslims, nationalism and white supremacy. They can belong to any religion they choose, although they currently define themselves as Protestant Christian.

However, as part of a Protestant church, they can build their churches anywhere anyone else can.

No, the KKK is a bunch or idiots who found major support with the Dems in the 60's. That makes them left wing

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

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So you think that is what I think?

I don't really care what you "think" how about you respond to the actual post instead of playing some stupid game!

And a responce I will give if you dont try and put words in my mouth or tell me what I think

YOUR game got crushed
Live with it

I have no idea what you are talking about and nowhere did I put words in your mouth or tell you what you think. I am not sure what your first language is but in English "?" means I am asking a question. So once again, how about you respond to what I wrote instead of playing childish games!

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

"So you think it is ok to lump the KKK and Muslims into the same category?"

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

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"So you think it is ok to lump the KKK and Muslims into the same category?"

I'm sorry, was there a part of the question you don't understand?

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

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"So you think it is ok to lump the KKK and Muslims into the same category?"

I'm sorry, was there a part of the question you don't understand?

Show me where I even came close to lumping anyone together

Make a stupid post and you will get one in return

as you did

But I guess you think it must be ok for you to make stupid posts?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

So in other words, you can't defend your bigoted position so you choose to come after me. Pretty much what you do in just about every post of yours that I have ever read. You just aren't worth the effort. Thanks for playing.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[rushmc 23]

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So in other words, you can't defend your bigoted position so you choose to come after me. Pretty much what you do in just about every post of yours that I have ever read. You just aren't worth the effort. Thanks for playing.

There, you just did it again

You dont play your own game very well. And you are even a poorer looser at it

If you cant play the game or stand to lose it, dont start it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[okalb 104]

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"So you think it is ok to lump the KKK and Muslims into the same category?"

No, but I am starting to think that some of the people on this forum and the KKK aren't that far off.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[billvon 3,114]

>No, the KKK is a bunch or idiots . . .

Agreed.

>who found major support with the Dems in the 60's. That makes them left wing

Sorry, they define themselves as a right wing group and espouse right-wing principles; that makes them right wing. They strongly oppose illegal immigration, Muslim influence on US society and gay marriage. They detest Barack Obama. (Sounding familiar yet?)


From Wikipedia:

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Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of three distinct past and present right-wing organizations in the United States, which have advocated extremist reactionary currents such as white supremacy and nationalism.
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From the book Right-wing populism in America, by Matthew Nemiroff Lyons:

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In our view, this backlash character stamped the Reconstruction-era Klan movement as the United States first significant right-wing populist movement.
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[jakee 1,594]

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Show me where I even came close to lumping anyone together

The bit where you suggested that MLK's assassins are to the KKK what Al Qaeda are to the whole of Islam.

yep, I think it was there.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

Case in point
I have never went after Muslim any where or on this site

So, someone had a view (that you think you know) that you do not agree with you call them a bigot

And I went after you???

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Show me where I even came close to lumping anyone together

The bit where you suggested that MLK's assassins are to the KKK what Al Qaeda are to the whole of Islam.

yep, I think it was there.

Then you are just as ignorantly incorrect as the other

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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>No, the KKK is a bunch or idiots . . .

Agreed.

>who found major support with the Dems in the 60's. That makes them left wing

Sorry, they define themselves as a right wing group and espouse right-wing principles; that makes them right wing. They strongly oppose illegal immigration, Muslim influence on US society and gay marriage. They detest Barack Obama. (Sounding familiar yet?)


From Wikipedia:

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Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of three distinct past and present right-wing organizations in the United States, which have advocated extremist reactionary currents such as white supremacy and nationalism.
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From the book Right-wing populism in America, by Matthew Nemiroff Lyons:

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In our view, this backlash character stamped the Reconstruction-era Klan movement as the United States first significant right-wing populist movement.
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They found major support in the Dem party
Cant argue with that can you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 893]

You most certainly implied that very statement in your post.

[jakee 1,594]

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Show me where I even came close to lumping anyone together

The bit where you suggested that MLK's assassins are to the KKK what Al Qaeda are to the whole of Islam.

yep, I think it was there.

Then you are just as ignorantly incorrect as the other

If that's not what you meant, then you know that your analogy is bullshit.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,114]

>They found major support in the Dem party
>Cant argue with that can you

No doubt. Heck, I am sure you could claim they got major support from black Baptist churches at some point, if you dig long and hard enough and do the Rush-twist on the results.

But the Republicans had a KKK member running for President of the United States, and every single KKK platform is echoed in the current GOP platform. And it would take a blind man indeed to ignore those.

[rushmc 23]

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You most certainly implied that very statement in your post.

Show me which words please

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Show me where I even came close to lumping anyone together

The bit where you suggested that MLK's assassins are to the KKK what Al Qaeda are to the whole of Islam.

yep, I think it was there.

Then you are just as ignorantly incorrect as the other

If that's not what you meant, then you know that your analogy is bullshit.

My analogy is right on
You assumptions of what I think about muslims is the bull shit

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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>They found major support in the Dem party
>Cant argue with that can you

No doubt. Heck, I am sure you could claim they got major support from black Baptist churches at some point, if you dig long and hard enough and do the Rush-twist on the results.

But the Republicans had a KKK member running for President of the United States, and every single KKK platform is echoed in the current GOP platform. And it would take a blind man indeed to ignore those.

And the Dems have kept a KKK leader in their ranks until recently

And the Dems filibustered the civil rights act that the Repulicans pushed through

Funny how it all comes together huh

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,114]

You've been burned pretty badly on this one. I suspect you saw the segment on FOX where Pamela Geller, a right-wing blogger, proposed what you did (i.e. comparing a KKK shrine to a mosque) then reposted it without thinking about it too much.