quade 4 #76 August 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote While Obama is undoubtedly educated I haven't seen anything from him since he's been in office that would lead me to believe he is at all uniquely intelligent. Okay, let's assume that his stellar academic credentials are no indication of intelligence (which is ridiculous, but for the sake or argument lets ignore them). Have you read his first book? You couldn't read it and think that he doesn't clearly possesses great intelligence and self awareness. Unless he didn't actually write it, but had ghost writers do it for him. Are you blaming shit on the spooks now too? The CIA had nothing to do with it, that I am aware of. I'll give you credit for not taking that in the worst direction it could have gone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #77 August 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote While Obama is undoubtedly educated I haven't seen anything from him since he's been in office that would lead me to believe he is at all uniquely intelligent. Okay, let's assume that his stellar academic credentials are no indication of intelligence (which is ridiculous, but for the sake or argument lets ignore them). Have you read his first book? You couldn't read it and think that he doesn't clearly possesses great intelligence and self awareness. Unless he didn't actually write it, but had ghost writers do it for him. Are you blaming shit on the spooks now too? The CIA had nothing to do with it, that I am aware of. I'll give you credit for not taking that in the worst direction it could have gone. Not sure what you mean.Only spooks I know of are: spook (spuke) n. 1. Informal A ghost; a specter. 2. Slang A secret agent; a spy.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #78 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhile Obama is undoubtedly educated I haven't seen anything from him since he's been in office that would lead me to believe he is at all uniquely intelligent. Okay, let's assume that his stellar academic credentials are no indication of intelligence (which is ridiculous, but for the sake or argument lets ignore them). Have you read his first book? You couldn't read it and think that he doesn't clearly possesses great intelligence and self awareness. His self awareness has a name It is called narcissism And there is a debate as to who actually wrote the book, but that is another thread"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #79 August 30, 2010 QuoteRight, for example children's HC; the same one GWB vetoed that Obama and teh D's passed 2 weeks into his term. You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #80 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhile Obama is undoubtedly educated I haven't seen anything from him since he's been in office that would lead me to believe he is at all uniquely intelligent. Okay, let's assume that his stellar academic credentials are no indication of intelligence (which is ridiculous, but for the sake or argument lets ignore them). Stellar academic credentials? Did he finally release his grades/papers, then? QuoteHave you read his first book? You couldn't read it and think that he doesn't clearly possesses great intelligence and self awareness. Obama, or his ghostwriter Ayers?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #81 August 30, 2010 Quote http://www.smh.com.au/world/rally-urges-us-to-support-the-military-and-go-back-to-god-20100829-13xks.html Looking forward to the new US political acumen A radio moderator and a dense ice hockey mom - wow, that's the perfect combination for the only world power on earth. They're blowing a whistle and folks just follow - where did I hear that somewhere in the past, again? I was traveling in DC this past weekend and there seemed to be a large line of folks waiting to see the Lincoln Memorial. Now after reading your post I now understand Beck and Palin were doing some kind of book signing thing. I don't recall hearing a whistle though, but the line started to thin out after 1:00 in the afternoon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #82 August 30, 2010 Quote I guess you entertain each other. next time I'll try to dumb it down enough for the society leeching left-wingers to understand too. Happy? Can't hang and chat-need to schedule a Dr.'s appointment while I still have fantastic insurance.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #83 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote Right, for example children's HC; the same one GWB vetoed that Obama and teh D's passed 2 weeks into his term. You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right? Right, all poor peopel don't need it, it's just a big fraud and they are all doing well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #84 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Right, for example children's HC; the same one GWB vetoed that Obama and teh D's passed 2 weeks into his term. You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right? Right, all poor peopel don't need it, it's just a big fraud and they are all doing well. Yet another Lucky lie.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #85 August 31, 2010 "Dem control of the housing markets" WTF? That's just a stupid fucking comment. The Dems have no more control over the housing market than the Repubs. Comments like that illustrate the reason we have this gigantic fucking mess. Namely people who willfully endorse utter lies to further a political pipe dream instead of understanding the real cause. The housing cluster fuck occurred because deregulation not only allowed it but encouraged it. What little regulation existed was circumvented thru practices which allowed a few to reap incredible reward off the stupidity of many. Both parties are guilty of allowing this and encouraging the business who cut off their noses to spite the collective face of our economy. These people stole, pure and simple, and every president since nixon has conceded to the wishes of the few who stood to benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #86 August 31, 2010 QuoteThe housing cluster fuck occurred because deregulation not only allowed it but encouraged it. http://thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/17/who_deregulated_housing_what_politicians_received_money_from_freddie_and_fannie.thtmlYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #87 August 31, 2010 QuoteQuote What I love about you neo-cons is that there is no data and all theatrics. I guess you entertain each other. next time I'll try to dumb it down enough for the society leeching left-wingers to understand too. Happy? Can't hang and chat-need to schedule a Dr.'s appointment while I still have fantastic insurance. Without data or any evidence, just unfounded opinion, it can't get much more dumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #88 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Right, for example children's HC; the same one GWB vetoed that Obama and teh D's passed 2 weeks into his term. You mean the EXPANSION of SCHIP to families that didn't need it, and not the implied lie that there was no children's healthcare that your post read as, right? Right, all poor peopel don't need it, it's just a big fraud and they are all doing well. Yet another Lucky lie. Yea, the poor rich and having to lose score so the poor can have their kids get HC. Yea, and some get pissed when I refer to conservatives/Livertarians as sociopaths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #89 August 31, 2010 Quote"Dem control of the housing markets" WTF? That's just a stupid fucking comment. The Dems have no more control over the housing market than the Repubs. Comments like that illustrate the reason we have this gigantic fucking mess. Namely people who willfully endorse utter lies to further a political pipe dream instead of understanding the real cause. The housing cluster fuck occurred because deregulation not only allowed it but encouraged it. What little regulation existed was circumvented thru practices which allowed a few to reap incredible reward off the stupidity of many. Both parties are guilty of allowing this and encouraging the business who cut off their noses to spite the collective face of our economy. These people stole, pure and simple, and every president since nixon has conceded to the wishes of the few who stood to benefit. Altho there is some truth to that, w/o low int rates there would just be a bunch of foreclosures that would sell for 80-90% of what was owed on them. Low rates made the false appreciation possible. Why were the rates lowered? Tax cits, my friends. Lower tax rates, the rich pull profits with little penalty and then the whole thing stagnates, int rates are typically lowered then to motivate spending; the rich didn't buy it so the rates just kept getting lower and lower. History has proven that higher rates can slow spending, it hasn't proven that lower rates can always spur the economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #90 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote The housing cluster fuck occurred because deregulation not only allowed it but encouraged it. http://thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/17/who_deregulated_housing_what_politicians_received_money_from_freddie_and_fannie.thtml Oops up side ur head: The top 10 recipients of campaign contributions from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae during the 1989 to 2008 time period include 5 Republicans and 5 Democrats. Top recipients of PAC money from these organizations include: - Roy Blunt (R-MO) $78,500 (total including individuals' contributions $96,950), - Robert Bennett (R-UT) $71,499 (total $107,999), - Spencer Bachus (R-AL) $70,500 (total $103,300), and - Kit Bond (R-MO) $95,400 (total $64,000). The following Democrats received mostly individual contributions from employees, rather than PAC money: - Christopher Dodd, (D-CT) $116,900 (but also $48,000 from the PACs), - John Kerry, (D-MA) $109,000 ($2,000 from PACs), - Barack Obama, (D-IL) $120,349 (only $6,000 from the PACs), - Hillary Clinton, (D-NY) $68,050 (only $8,000 from PACs). [35]. - John McCain received $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money.[36] - Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota according to FEC filings [37]. The organizers of the Democratic National Convention have not yet submitted their filings on how much they received from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae[/url] So the biggest recipient so far is the RNC. It's not even fun feeding back to your your shit sandwiches, make it more difficult. Oh, and from your page: McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Where does that put McSame then, damn near tops. You're so easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #91 August 31, 2010 Quote Oops up side ur head Indeed. Freddie Mac 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $41,900 Senate Dodd, Chris $25,500 Senate Clinton, Hillary $19,100 House Bachus, Spencer $11,500 House Bean, Melissa $11,249 Senate McCain, John $10,250 Fannie Mae 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $115,313 Senate Clinton, Hillary $27,278 Senate Dodd, Chris $24,350 House Lynch, Stephen F $15,500 Senate Cornyn, John $12,000 Senate Coleman, Norm $11,000 House Clyburn, James E $10,500 Senate McCain, John $10,305 Quote You're so easy. Yes, you are.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #92 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote Oops up side ur head Indeed. Freddie Mac 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $41,900 Senate Dodd, Chris $25,500 Senate Clinton, Hillary $19,100 House Bachus, Spencer $11,500 House Bean, Melissa $11,249 Senate McCain, John $10,250 Fannie Mae 2008: Top Recipients Senate Obama, Barack $115,313 Senate Clinton, Hillary $27,278 Senate Dodd, Chris $24,350 House Lynch, Stephen F $15,500 Senate Cornyn, John $12,000 Senate Coleman, Norm $11,000 House Clyburn, James E $10,500 Senate McCain, John $10,305 Quote You're so easy. Yes, you are. Oh Mikeepoo, you're so cute when you cherrypick my posts. Did you forget: - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. - John McCain received $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money. - Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota according to FEC filings [37]. The organizers of the Democratic National Convention have not yet submitted their filings on how much they received from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Come on now. you have egg all over your face, even your own neo-coners see that; quit looking beat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #93 September 1, 2010 QuoteMcCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #94 September 1, 2010 Quote Quote McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky. - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. So an individual being one of the directors of Freddie Mac is far and different from Freddie Mac? I know, it sucks that youyr point is now a shit sandwich you must eat. And what about John McCain receiving $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money? Oh no comment? What about the biggie: Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention? Oh, no comment? I see your point gets worse and worse as we go and you cherry pick. I would just run as you do well if I were you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #95 September 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky. - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. So an individual being one of the directors of Freddie Mac is far and different from Freddie Mac? I know, it sucks that youyr point is now a shit sandwich you must eat. Sucks that you don't have a point to begin with. Quote And what about John McCain receiving $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money? Oh no comment? 20k over a dozen years...yeah, that really blows away the 150k-plus that Obama got just in 08 from Freddie/Fannie, or the 50k that Dodd pulled in. Quote What about the biggie: Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention? Financial companies at the center of the U.S. credit crisis including American International Group Inc., Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Freddie Mac helped pay for the Democratic National Convention in Denver, documents show. The Laborers International Union of North America gave $1.5 million to the Denver host committee. Four other unions, American Federation of Teachers, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, National Education Association and Service Employees International Union, gave at least $1 million each. For the Republican convention, Freddie Mac and AIG each gave $250,000, Goldman Sachs gave $255,000, and Morgan Stanley donated $100,000. JPMorgan Chase, which bought Bear Stearns Cos., contributed $100,000. Institution to DNC to RNC * Lehman Brothers $100,000 * AIG $750,000 $250,000 * Freddie Mac $250,000 $250,000 * JPMorgan Chase & Co. $100,000 $100,000 * Wells Fargo $260,000 * Goldman Sachs $250,000 $255,000 * Morgan Stanley $150,000 $100,000 You were saying? Quote I see your my point gets worse and worse as we go and you I cherry pick. Fixed that for you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #96 September 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. Boisi, Geoffrey New York NY Roundtable Investment Partners Well...that's quite the interesting spelling of Freddie Mac you have there, Lucky. - McCain also got around $100,000 this year from Geoffrey T. Boisi, one of the directors of Freddie Mac. So an individual being one of the directors of Freddie Mac is far and different from Freddie Mac? I know, it sucks that youyr point is now a shit sandwich you must eat. Sucks that you don't have a point to begin with. Quote And what about John McCain receiving $21,550 from these GSEs during this time, mostly individual money? Oh no comment? 20k over a dozen years...yeah, that really blows away the 150k-plus that Obama got just in 08 from Freddie/Fannie, or the 50k that Dodd pulled in. Quote What about the biggie: Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention? Financial companies at the center of the U.S. credit crisis including American International Group Inc., Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Freddie Mac helped pay for the Democratic National Convention in Denver, documents show. The Laborers International Union of North America gave $1.5 million to the Denver host committee. Four other unions, American Federation of Teachers, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, National Education Association and Service Employees International Union, gave at least $1 million each. For the Republican convention, Freddie Mac and AIG each gave $250,000, Goldman Sachs gave $255,000, and Morgan Stanley donated $100,000. JPMorgan Chase, which bought Bear Stearns Cos., contributed $100,000. Institution to DNC to RNC * Lehman Brothers $100,000 * AIG $750,000 $250,000 * Freddie Mac $250,000 $250,000 * JPMorgan Chase & Co. $100,000 $100,000 * Wells Fargo $260,000 * Goldman Sachs $250,000 $255,000 * Morgan Stanley $150,000 $100,000 You were saying? Quote I see your my point gets worse and worse as we go and you I cherry pick. Fixed that for you. See, this is where you show us your lack of understanding of political contributions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States At the time of the McTurd / Obama general, corporate contributions were disallowed: At the federal level, the primary source of campaign funds is individuals; political action committees are a distant second. Contributions from both are limited, and direct contributions from corporations and labor unions are prohibited. On January 21, 2010, the Supreme Court overturned a 20-year-old ruling that had previously prohibited corporations and unions from using money from their general treasuries to produce and run their own campaign ads I was saying this: McTurd receieved money from the directors: The New York Times looked at contributions from Fannie and Freddie's boards of directors and lobbyists, who are technically not employees. That analysis found Fannie and Freddie-related contributors gave $169,000 to John McCain and his related committees, compared with $16,000 to Obama and his related committees. So you are wrong, once again. It is the directors who slide money to political campaigns thru the corporations, who no doubt recompense the directors via bonuses. BTW, here's the source of my amounts to McTurd and Obama: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/sep/19/john-mccain/their-employees-have-donated// And you wanna talk big oil contributions thru directors: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/aug/06/barack-obama/make-that-at-least-2-million/ But we're focusing on the claim that big oil gave McCain's campaign $2-million. It's not unequivocally true, because the phrasing implies that the big oil corporations themselves were the givers, when it was actually their executives and employees, not to mention those of smaller natural gas companies. But energy industry players clearly have given McCain well over $2-million, so we find the claim Mostly True. Yea, big corps love Republicans as they know tax cuts my friends is the soup dejour and they want it. BTW, in typical Mike fashion, no source for this data: Institution to DNC to RNC * Lehman Brothers $100,000 * AIG $750,000 $250,000 * Freddie Mac $250,000 $250,000 * JPMorgan Chase & Co. $100,000 $100,000 * Wells Fargo $260,000 * Goldman Sachs $250,000 $255,000 * Morgan Stanley $150,000 $100,000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #97 September 1, 2010 QuoteBTW, in typical Mike fashion, no source for this data Yeah, it took you HOW many posts to get your source up? Quit whining and wipe the snot off your upper lip. Just for you, LuckyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #98 September 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteBTW, in typical Mike fashion, no source for this data Yeah, it took you HOW many posts to get your source up? Quit whining and wipe the snot off your upper lip. Just for you, Lucky I didn't ask how to google it, I want to read teh right wing, maggotted trash rag you drew yours from so I can impeach the data. Now, we all expect you to continue to dodge it, I'm not gonna sort thru 1,000's of Googled pages, you show me your rag source or just be dishonest Mikeee, as we know you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #99 September 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteBTW, in typical Mike fashion, no source for this data Yeah, it took you HOW many posts to get your source up? Quit whining and wipe the snot off your upper lip. Just for you, Lucky I didn't ask how to google it, I want to read teh right wing, maggotted trash rag you drew yours from so I can impeach the data. Now, we all expect you to continue to dodge it, I'm not gonna sort thru 1,000's of Googled pages, you show me your rag source or just be dishonest Mikeee, as we know you. Look at the first link on the page - you know, the one that's titled "Barack Obama largest recipient of political funds from mortgage". Oh - that's from the 'maggotted' (another Luckyism, I guess) LA Times, BTW. A couple links underneath there some bolded type that says "and Freddie Mac helped pay for the Democratic National Convention ". Guess that was a bit too difficult for you - sorry. I figure that even YOU can take it from this point, though - be sure to post back if the big words are too much for you. And wipe your lip - you're all snotty again.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #100 September 1, 2010 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
