pchapman 280 #76 August 30, 2010 Quote Does this not work today with the Aboriginal Justice Systems that are in place in many provinces? Good question. I don't know how they work. Quote Wouldn't that be considered two justice systems? Yes. Just like maintaining different civil law in Quebec vs. other provinces, due to different origins. (Napoleonic code vs. Brit civil law, or something like that) Quote Playing devils advocate...can we not integrate sharia law as was done with aboriginal justice? Two systems with appropriate domains and interfaces are fine, if that's what people want. If one system is seen as essentially undesirable or incompatible with the other though... No problem with your devil's advocate questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #77 August 30, 2010 QuoteAH - but it isn't murder if it is in the name of Allah, and imdemnified by the koran? right? You have murder allowed by state laws for property crimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #78 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteAH - but it isn't murder if it is in the name of Allah, and imdemnified by the koran? right? You have murder allowed by state laws for property crimes. Do I?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #79 August 30, 2010 yes, you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #80 August 30, 2010 Quoteyes, you do. Could you perhaps back up your ststement with links to recent judgements in favor? Recent meaning, say the last 5 years?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #81 August 30, 2010 QuoteCould you perhaps back up your ststement with links to recent judgements in favor? If there is no charge, why would there be a judgement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #82 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteCould you perhaps back up your ststement with links to recent judgements in favor? If there is no charge, why would there be a judgement? Incident report of some kind? Anything to corroborate your statement?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #83 August 30, 2010 Just google Joe Horn and read away. I would be very surprised if you were not aware of that case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #84 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote'Honour' killings are not Islamic, they are cultural./traditional, People of other religions (Including Catholics & Jews) also commit these murderes. in Brazil, until 1991 wife killings were considered to be noncriminal 'honour killings', in just one year, nearly eight hundred husbands killed their wives. Similarly, in Colombia, until 1980, a husband legally could kill his wife for committing adultery, it still happens. http://www.awid.org/eng/Issues-and-Analysis/Issues-and-Analysis/Why-Are-Hindu-Honor-Killings-Rising-in-India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning_of_Du'a_Khalil_Aswad http://www.law-lib.utoronto.ca/Diana/fulltext/wile.htm http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilling.html http://www.karentintori.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=21 And that makes it OK in your book. We get it. Comprehension and cognative processing evading you today are they? No - you are clearly making an argument for approval because it is cultural. Your argument is that because it is done here and hthere it must be OK. No that is your view not mine. My point is that Honour killings are not Islamic but cultural, murder is not acceptable for any reason. AH - but it isn't murder if it is in the name of Allah, and imdemnified by the koran? right? No No, it isn't murder in your belief system. Got it. learn to thinkWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #85 August 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote'Honour' killings are not Islamic, they are cultural./traditional, People of other religions (Including Catholics & Jews) also commit these murderes. in Brazil, until 1991 wife killings were considered to be noncriminal 'honour killings', in just one year, nearly eight hundred husbands killed their wives. Similarly, in Colombia, until 1980, a husband legally could kill his wife for committing adultery, it still happens. http://www.awid.org/eng/Issues-and-Analysis/Issues-and-Analysis/Why-Are-Hindu-Honor-Killings-Rising-in-India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning_of_Du'a_Khalil_Aswad http://www.law-lib.utoronto.ca/Diana/fulltext/wile.htm http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilling.html http://www.karentintori.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=21 And that makes it OK in your book. We get it. Comprehension and cognative processing evading you today are they? No - you are clearly making an argument for approval because it is cultural. Your argument is that because it is done here and hthere it must be OK. No that is your view not mine. My point is that Honour killings are not Islamic but cultural, murder is not acceptable for any reason. AH - but it isn't murder if it is in the name of Allah, and imdemnified by the koran? right? No No, it isn't murder in your belief system. Got it. learn to think I am in the process of that every day. Don't you wish you could say the same?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #86 August 30, 2010 Great, get back to me when you're proficent.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #87 August 30, 2010 QuoteGreat, get back to me when you're proficent. Your level of proficiency?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #88 August 31, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote what day is this.... I wonder which ism's will be on display this week Liberalism Ok... you can take all the rest... I would have thought that being a religious minority... you might have chosen otherwise. What does being Jewish have to do with an intolerance of intolerable actions? Jews are very tolerant of others. Muslims, not so much. Oh pardon me... never mind.. I guess I just expected you to embrace freedom of reliigon.. soory... I guess I was wrong Like most freedoms, I embrace them; but there are limits. Depending on what the institution's leaders request or require, and for some of those things, whether or not the follower acts on those items. At the least, every religion appears to be loaded with worthless, and mostly harmless, oogie-boogie. At the worst, some appear to have no consistent regard for or recognition of basic human rights." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
