Crickets yet again on THE RIGHT

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I was waiting to see if ANYONE of the rePUBIClown persuasion was going to post anything about this..... guess not huh Well GOLLLLLLLLYYYYY

Personally I think more of the Log Cabin types should just come out and do as Ken is now doing, work for gay rights rather than PERPETRATING the usual self loathing attacks on gays to prove to their buddies they can't possibly be one of those homo's , ike the former mayor of Spokane, or Wide Stance Larry Craig. I mean they have used legislation over and over to harm their fellow gays in this country... when they themselves are gay.

Does anyone think Ken is still welcome in that BiG WHITE Circus Tent???

Ken Mehlman former RNC Chair

Ken Mehlman Gay? Bush-Era GOP
By: Michael Stevens
Staff Writer
Published: Aug 27, 2010

Ken Mehlman gay, and he is the former chairman of the Republican national committee.
Ken Mehlman Gay? Bush-era GOP. Ken Mehlman has surprised the GOP by admitting he is gay, and is lobbying for same-sex marriage. Mehlman claims that it has taken him 43 years to get comfortable with being gay.

Mehlman was one of the key architects of former President George Bush's election machine. He has disclosed that he is indeed, gay, and is lobbying to legalize same-sex marriage. "It's taken me 43 years to get comfortable with this part of my life," Ken Mehlman, a former chairman of the Republican national committee and the manager of George Bush's 2004 presidential campaign, said in a statement.

This revelation makes him the most senior figure in the Republican party to publicly identify himself as gay. As a member of Bush's inner circle, Mehlman would have been party to the agenda of hostility towards gay and lesbian rights. It was designed to draw conservative and religious supporters out to vote.

Mehlman claims that Karl Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, worked to place anti-gay initiatives and referendums on election ballots in 2004 and 2006. It's a claim that Karl Rove completely denies. While Ken Mehlman expressed his regret at Republican tactics during his tenure, some gay activists were angry with him.

Mike Rogers, who attempted to out Mehlman and a number of other politicians, wrote on his blog that Bush's 2004 election campaign was "the most homophobic national campaign in history. That campaign was run by one of the nation's worst closested individuals, Ken Mehlman." Rogers said he wanted to hear Mehlman apologize for the damage he helped cause. "Ken Mehlman is horribly homophobic and no matter how orchestrated his coming out is, our community should hold him accountable for his past," Rogers said.

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There is a simple explanation of why so many Republicans are homophobic: they are repressing their own gay tendencies.

Their was a study a few years back where a control group of men were ask their views about Gays. They were then shown an assortment of porn with blood pressure cuffs on their penis to measure arousal. Not surprising, the ones expressing the most ant-gay sentiments were the ones that had the most arousal from subjects who described themselves as straight.

This study was not surprising to me and now when ever I see someone who is very homophobic, I think back to that study.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

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I see no reason to try to reply to a child, that start a thread off with name calling.....maybe when you grow up, and post like an addult!

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I see no reason to try to reply to a child, that start a thread off with name calling.....maybe when you grow up, and post like an addult!

Refrain from name calling? you must mean just like the Limbaugh's, Hannity's, the becks and the rest of the right wing mouth pieces.

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I see no reason to try to reply to a child, that start a thread off with name calling.....maybe when you grow up, and post like an addult!

Awww how cute. Did you find some cheese yet?

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There is a simple explanation of why so many Republicans are homophobic: they are repressing their own gay tendencies.

Their was a study a few years back where a control group of men were ask their views about Gays. They were then shown an assortment of porn with blood pressure cuffs on their penis to measure arousal. Not surprising, the ones expressing the most ant-gay sentiments were the ones that had the most arousal from subjects who described themselves as straight.

This study was not surprising to me and now when ever I see someone who is very homophobic, I think back to that study.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

I remember that study... and I too think of it IMMEDIATELY whenever a I hear a guy start raggin on gays with the usual names they like to use.

It also seems to work out they try desperately to prove to their buddies that they are not, by beating the shit out of anyone they perceive as gay.

When they grow up they join the ranks of those like Ken Mehlman , Larry Craig and a host of others who try so hard to legislate morality.

Many of them get a wife to further cover their secret little passions that they partake of while not at home. Sometimes the wives know of this and just accept it as part of being married to someone of importance. I wonder when Limbaugh is going to actually come out and quit torturing woman after woman. AT least Karl Rove has divorced wife number 2 and can now come out as well.

That type of relationship is usually very harmful to their families, perhaps someday guys like that will not need the level of subterfuge and they can marry someone they truly love, even if he is the same sex. It would certainly make for a more stable life with less harm to those trapped in the big lie that is their life.

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It seems as though there are more gay Republicans than gay Democrats. It seems as though the stereotype about the lack of inclusivity of the GOP is damaged day by day.

It's too bad that there are so many out there who focus on people's race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc. This focus on these people is often seen at its greatest when people point out - HA! HE'S GAY! HA HA HA!

You think it's funny and entertaining that Ken Mehlman is gay? You like the thought of using a person's sexual orientation against him, her or the people with which the gay or transgendered person is or has been affiliated?

Thank you for pointing out exactly how challenged the pursuit of equality is. There is a greater-than-significant portion of the right wing that does not want to see it. There is a greater-than-significant portion of the left wing that would prefer to be clique-like bullies that point and llaugh when their enemy is found to have those that they think are more like them.

Neither the left nor the right view anybody as a person. The right at least owns up to it. The left lie about it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Their was a study a few years back where a control group of men were ask their views about Gays. They were then shown an assortment of porn with blood pressure cuffs on their penis to measure arousal. Not surprising, the ones expressing the most ant-gay sentiments were the ones that had the most arousal from subjects who described themselves as straight.

maybe they're just manly men.

Though it made for nice press, I think that conclusion may be a tiny bit simplified.

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It seems as though there are more gay Republicans than gay Democrats. It seems as though the stereotype about the lack of inclusivity of the GOP is damaged day by day.

It's too bad that there are so many out there who focus on people's race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc. This focus on these people is often seen at its greatest when people point out - HA! HE'S GAY! HA HA HA!

You think it's funny and entertaining that Ken Mehlman is gay? You like the thought of using a person's sexual orientation against him, her or the people with which the gay or transgendered person is or has been affiliated?

Thank you for pointing out exactly how challenged the pursuit of equality is. There is a greater-than-significant portion of the right wing that does not want to see it. There is a greater-than-significant portion of the left wing that would prefer to be clique-like bullies that point and llaugh when their enemy is found to have those that they think are more like them.

Neither the left nor the right view anybody as a person. The right at least owns up to it. The left lie about it.

You seem to have missed the point....

He was part of the group that has done all it can to do every thing it can do damage others.. and then these same bullies that BECAUSE they are gay and trying to hide their proclivities have in the past and continue to harm others.
The left my dear is NOT the group who have demonized gay people for political gain across this county.

Perhaps Americans need to butt the fuck out of peoples personal lives.

Now it appears that Mehlman is trying to become an activist for gays... bully for him... too bad he could not have done that BEFORE he harmed so many.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

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Their was a study a few years back where a control group of men were ask their views about Gays. They were then shown an assortment of porn with blood pressure cuffs on their penis to measure arousal. Not surprising, the ones expressing the most ant-gay sentiments were the ones that had the most arousal from subjects who described themselves as straight.

maybe they're just manly men.

Though it made for nice press, I think that conclusion may be a tiny bit simplified.

Although antidotal, I always noticed when I was younger, if I was in a group of several guys, around 6-10, when ever the subject of gays came up, there was always 1 or 2 that just had to let loose with a tirade of anti gay shit. These guys just seemed to way over react with talk about kicking their ass and they should all be killed and this and that. Many of these same guys I would later find were Gay.

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> It seems as though the stereotype about the lack of inclusivity of the
>GOP is damaged day by day.

?? If you have to quit your job in the GOP because you're gay, and then later apologize for betraying other gays, that actually reinforces that stereotype.

>Neither the left nor the right view anybody as a person. The right at least
>owns up to it.

You mean the right owns up to not treating anyone as a person? I don't see that they do that (in general) nor do I see them owning up to doing that.

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perhaps you should listen to your own words...

Perhaps Americans need to butt the fuck out of peoples personal lives.

Of course since you seem to offer nothing but hatred for anyone from the south I dont see that happening any time soon.

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perhaps you should listen to your own words...

Perhaps Americans need to butt the fuck out of peoples personal lives.

Of course since you seem to offer nothing but hatred for anyone from the south I dont see that happening any time soon.

Oh I know there are people in the FUCKED UP BIBLE BELT that are not part of the group that seeks to legislate morality, but they are certainly in the minority.

Repeat after me now... I do not need to persecute others for their sexual orientation, the religion they worship, or the style of bbq they desire.

Come join the 21st century instead of longing for the 19th

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Of course you dont NEED to...but you do it over and over again in these posts on the SC. After all I am quite sure if I just admitted to you that I had just become a devout democrat, you would still despise me because I'm still related to republicans. And of course calling all republicans gay is completely going to help your cause or world unification.

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Allright Amazon let's call a truce...so when are you going to come scoop me up and take me to 16,500 feet on the denali so you can show me how to quit smoking?

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Of course you dont NEED to...but you do it over and over again in these posts on the SC. After all I am quite sure if I just admitted to you that I had just become a devout democrat, you would still despise me because I'm still related to republicans. And of course calling all republicans gay is completely going to help your cause or world unification.

Freankly my dear I don't give a fuck, but if you are one of the rePUBIClowns ( please notice the PUBIC and CLOWN in there) I think perhaps an examination of the tissue surrounding their collective heads is severly in order, that may then lead to a rapid extraction of those collective craniums from that rather dark place they are so firmly embeded in. Perhaps if they were able to return to REPUBLICAN ideals, return to a centrist world view and actually try to govern for the people from a position of sanity, and true fiscal responsibility, rather than being the devisive and hateful party of NO, they MIGHT be able to get some respect from people other than their true believer fellow travellers.

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I couldnt feel any different. Except my view is that politics are corrupt (ON ALL LEVELS) and if the only gratification you seek is speaking about politics then you must have a dull boring life. Have fun watching the paint dry homey.

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I see no reason to try to reply to a child, that start a thread off with name calling.....maybe when you grow up, and post like an addult!

Refrain from name calling? you must mean just like the Limbaugh's, Hannity's, the becks and the rest of the right wing mouth pieces.

ah yes.... lowering yourselves to their level.

fine. your choice

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Repeat after me now... I do not need to persecute others for their sexual orientation, the religion they worship, or the style of bbq they desire.

sounds fine to me...

wait... BBQ?

oh hell no. we gotta make fun of the people who want tennesee BBQ.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

I like how telling someone they need to post like an adult is a PA, yet repeated calling people repubiclowns, even emphasizing the words in the bastardization of the term, is not a PA because it's simply political in nature.

one mod I exchanged PMs with said he tried to determine if the post was made with malice when he considered if something was a PA or not.

I've seen much malice on this board. And oddly enough, most of it is centered around dancing around these PA rules.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

I like how telling someone they need to post like an adult is a PA, yet repeated calling people repubiclowns, even emphasizing the words in the bastardization of the term, is not a PA because it's simply political in nature.

one mod I exchanged PMs with said he tried to determine if the post was made with malice when he considered if something was a PA or not.

I've seen much malice on this board. And oddly enough, most of it is centered around dancing around these PA rules.

I realize you have not been around here for very long, or at least did not discover SC for much of the time after you registered, but I for one learned the proper form of posting from Posters like Vinny and being informed of the rules by billvon when I crossed the line.

I am all for equal treatment, what is good for right wing ganders should be good for the rest of the geese.

honk honk honk

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I realize you have not been around here for very long, or at least did not discover SC for much of the time after you registered,

yeah. discovered SC after I became more politically opinionated. Before that I was mostly coasting.

Don't know when this place was founded, but I joined after hearing discussions on rec.skydiving. I want to say in the late 90's 98-ish.

didn't post here for quite a while after though.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

You warn skyrider about that, but do nothing about her calling John Rich Goat Fuck Stupid and referring to him as a "piece of shit"????? I suppose we should modify the rules of speakers corner, that pointing out persistent child-like behavior is unacceptable, and that name calling, except for "Goat Fuck Stupid" and "Piece of shit" is permitted.

Do you think the mods should review the rules regarding trolling, staying on topic and personal attacks, even when pointed out to them in a pm, which goes ignored?

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Personal attacks are any variation on the theme of "you're an idiot." For a discussion of what constitutes a personal attack, see here.

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Post to the correct forum and stay on topic.

Her frequent rants have nothing productive to say and distract from the initial post.

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as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling)

Read her posts, and one can notice, that she invites negative inflammatory responses, repeatedly.

Multiple forum members have pointed out this behavior, yet all I hear are "Crickets" from the moderators.

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Your one warning. Cut it out.

You warn skyrider about that, but do nothing about her calling John Rich Goat Fuck Stupid and referring to him as a "piece of shit"????? I suppose we should modify the rules of speakers corner, that pointing out persistent child-like behavior is unacceptable, and that name calling, except for "Goat Fuck Stupid" and "Piece of shit" is permitted.

Do you think the mods should review the rules regarding trolling, staying on topic and personal attacks, even when pointed out to them in a pm, which goes ignored?

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Personal attacks are any variation on the theme of "you're an idiot." For a discussion of what constitutes a personal attack, see here.

hmmm, Goat Fuck Stupid sounds pretty close to "you're an idiot."

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Post to the correct forum and stay on topic.

Her frequent rants have nothing productive to say and distract from the initial post.

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as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling)

Read her posts, and one can notice, that she invites negative inflammatory responses, repeatedly.

Multiple forum members have pointed out this behavior, yet all I hear are "Crickets" from the moderators.

OMG I think someone is in dire need of a huge wedge of WISCONSINS FINEST too.

Personal attacks are just that my dear, personal. I have a huge disdain for those who have gone down the dark path of the fringe right. But I keep it on the level of GENERAL and not personal In my opinion they have done much to harm many of their countrymen for political gain and greed. I post politically charged topics to point out the H Y O C R I S Y of the imbeciles aspiring to be morons who wish to legislate THEIR morality onto others... all the while being guilty of the same behaviors. I learned my posting habits from Vinny and others here. Please look at the dates ... thanks.

So where is all that righteous indignation for others who have similar posting habits??????... hmmmm




I suppose next I will be called a bitch again.... or the ever popular dyke..... its been done before.... or have you and Jerry already done that.. since I have obviously stepped on SOMEONES last nerve...