Amazon 7 #1 August 25, 2010 Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust. Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year. A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews. "One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack. Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population. Knack, which published the findings, says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions. "This is a surprising result," said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist at the Catholic University of Leuven. "The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central. “Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or ‘Ayran’.” It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry. His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger. =================================================== This should twist up the Council of Conservative Citizens and their trailer trash counterparts in the Klan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #2 August 25, 2010 I can only hope that this info helps you come to terms with your obsession.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,507 #3 August 25, 2010 OMG!! It gets worse.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #4 August 25, 2010 I thought Hitler's Jewish roots had been well known for a long time. Jewish roots having an African component should not be a surprise either. Someone that is a racist will just consider it a conspiracy to tarnish his legacy, blah, blah - at least if they are a white racist. If a black person is a racist, depending on whether you consider that to be possible, well, I don't know what they would think about Hitler's heritage. Farakan hates Jews also, he is racist...People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 August 25, 2010 Quote I can only hope that this info helps you come to terms with your obsession. As opposed to some of yall's goin for dat swim in de nile?Just trying to help all of the racial purists that seem to raise their very ugly heads around here.... all that aryan purity probably has some eggplant that crept in . From a bit of sephardic to them stealthy black panther types done had a party or two all up in some families trees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #6 August 25, 2010 Quote all of the racial purists that seem to raise their very ugly heads around here.... Such as? Especially when you use the word "all", implying that there are many. Please explain.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuote all of the racial purists that seem to raise their very ugly heads around here.... Such as? Especially when you use the word "all", implying that there are many. Please explain. Come on.. you are a smart guy.... rub a few of those brain cells together..... unless you ... as others are ........completely oblivious to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #8 August 25, 2010 I'm just going on the perception that I, as a conservative southern white male that subscribes to traditional judeo-christian values, am the epitome of evil to you-yet i seem to be far less obsessed by race that you are-the issue (along with many others) must be yours.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 August 25, 2010 QuoteI'm just going on the perception that I, as a conservative southern white male that subscribes to traditional judeo-christian values, am the epitome of evil to you-yet i seem to be far less obsessed by race that you are-the issue (along with many others) must be yours. The difference... is WHO has been discriminated against in their life... Contrary to those in your VERY protected class.... you are CLUELESS in the extreme... especially when you bellyache about those horrible people who deprived you so much by affirmative action. I really hope that every one of you... gets a few lifetimes in the not so special classes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 August 25, 2010 Quote "One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack. So he couldn't stand his relatives? I can relate to that."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #11 August 25, 2010 According to the theory of evolution, EVERYONE came from Africa...Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #12 August 25, 2010 According to Judeo-Christian values, we ALL came from two individuals-kinda makes it hard to look down on anyone for any reason except for their individual demonstrated behavior.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #13 August 25, 2010 Quote you are CLUELESS in the extreme Pardon me while I stand in awe of someone, who after spending a small portion of two or three days with me, is so more of an expert on my life that myself-who has been in my skin for over 40 years. Methinks you presume much and know little.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #14 August 25, 2010 Quote According to the theory of evolution, EVERYONE came from Africa... Indeed, and of course those early homo-sapien invaders from Africa may well have been responsible for the extinction of the native European (German, even) Neanderthal man. The horror! Quote According to Judeo-Christian values, we ALL came from two individuals-kinda makes it hard to look down on anyone for any reason except for their individual demonstrated behavior. Yeah, and according to my parents Father Christmas will only bring me presents if I'm nice. Useful story to get kids to behave, but sort of falls down in an adult debate.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuote you are CLUELESS in the extreme Pardon me while I stand in awe of someone, who after spending a small portion of two or three days with me, is so more of an expert on my life that myself-who has been in my skin for over 40 years. Methinks you presume much and know little. I am in awe that your observational acuity has missed so much around you in 40 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #16 August 25, 2010 Quote Quote According to the theory of evolution, EVERYONE came from Africa... Indeed, and of course those early homo-sapien invaders from Africa may well have been responsible for the extinction of the native European (German, even) Neanderthal man. The horror! Quote According to Judeo-Christian values, we ALL came from two individuals-kinda makes it hard to look down on anyone for any reason except for their individual demonstrated behavior. Yeah, and according to my parents Father Christmas will only bring me presents if I'm nice. Useful story to get kids to behave, but sort of falls down in an adult debate. Blasphemy!Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #17 August 25, 2010 QuoteI thought Hitler's Jewish roots had been well known for a long time. Jewish roots having an African component should not be a surprise either............... Yes, I also thought that Hitler's jewish heritage has long been known. But given the terrible state (caused in large part by their defeat in the 1st WW) of Germany's economy he needed a scapegoat on which to redirect anger and blame. The Jews were already despised by Europe's socialist dictators and by much of the population and so became convenient targets for persecution throughout Europe and the Soviet sphere of influence. Hitler's lust for power and conquest seems to have overshadowed any connection to his heritage or maybe he held some fruitcake-like loathing or hatred toward himself or his mother. White supremist racists who hold Hitler up as their leader-in-kind are either lacking in education about him or are just plain ignoring his roots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #18 August 25, 2010 QuoteAccording to the theory of evolution, EVERYONE came from Africa... The map in Jared Diamond's book supports this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 August 25, 2010 Quote you are CLUELESS in the extreme... Most non-extremeists are . . . you, however seem to grasp extremism very well. hmmmm . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuote you are CLUELESS in the extreme... Most non-extremeists are . . . you, however seem to grasp extremism very well. hmmmm . . . As a supposed patriot... why do you have such a disdain for what the founding fathers wished our country to stand for?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote you are CLUELESS in the extreme... Most non-extremeists are . . . you, however seem to grasp extremism very well. hmmmm . . . As a supposed patriot... why do you have such a disdain for what the founding fathers wished our country to stand for?? I don't. It's not I that is in favor of Robin Hood Government. They weren't either. Are you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote you are CLUELESS in the extreme... Most non-extremeists are . . . you, however seem to grasp extremism very well. hmmmm . . . As a supposed patriot... why do you have such a disdain for what the founding fathers wished our country to stand for?? I don't. It's not I that is in favor of Robin Hood Government. They weren't either. Are you? You seem ecstatic with it when the people you voted for were destroying our economy with the steal from everyone to give to their friends bit. You know there are people who could help with that cognitive dissonance disorder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #23 August 25, 2010 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 August 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote you are CLUELESS in the extreme... Most non-extremeists are . . . you, however seem to grasp extremism very well. hmmmm . . . As a supposed patriot... why do you have such a disdain for what the founding fathers wished our country to stand for?? I don't. It's not I that is in favor of Robin Hood Government. They weren't either. Are you? You seem ecstatic with it when the people you voted for were destroying our economy with the steal from everyone to give to their friends bit. You know there are people who could help with that cognitive dissonance disorder. You assume too much again.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #25 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote all of the racial purists that seem to raise their very ugly heads around here.... Such as? Especially when you use the word "all", implying that there are many. Please explain. Come on.. you are a smart guy.... rub a few of those brain cells together..... unless you ... as others are ........completely oblivious to it. Do you mean those that hate Jews? There are a few of those on this site.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
