NewGuy2005 53 #1 August 19, 2010 ....that says I can sell my daughters into slavery? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 August 19, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2a75vuhquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #3 August 19, 2010 Quotehttp://tinyurl.com/2a75vuh OK. Thanks, I think. Keep in mind that there are 2 purposes: 1) Find the verse 2) Start a conversation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 August 19, 2010 QuoteQuotehttp://tinyurl.com/2a75vuh OK. Thanks, I think. Keep in mind that there are 2 purposes: 1) Find the verse 2) Start a conversation Then perhaps you'd like to give some sort of opinion to start the conversation off.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #5 August 19, 2010 Quote ....that says I can sell my daughters into slavery? It appears to be an ancient Jewish custom discussed in Exodus 21.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #6 August 19, 2010 Quote 2) Start a conversation Okay, what sort of price are we talking?"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #7 August 19, 2010 Exodus 21:7 Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #8 August 19, 2010 I would like to add that if you read the entire book, you will see that it's not recorded as an instruction but as an account of the law back then. Kind of like Matthew chapter 1 which is the begots or generation of Jesus. It's a record of what happened. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #9 August 19, 2010 I love the way when people bash the bible they always start with a verse about gods wrath or an old custom from the old testament. No one ever talks about the love and forgiveness Jesus brought us in the New Testament. To me being a christian has meant understanding that Jesus died for our sins and letting some of that old stuff go. I have yet to banish my wife while she is on her "monthly cycle." "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 August 19, 2010 Quote I have yet to banish my wife while she is on her "monthly cycle." That's because the Bible, originally (probably) in ancient Aramaic, only dealt with "unclean". But there's no provision for banishment for the real scourge: PMS - proving that ancient Aramaic had yet to develop the vocabulary for "intolerable". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #11 August 19, 2010 > It's a record of what happened. Agreed. Unfortunately, a lot of people see it as an instruction or science book, rather than a record of an oral history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #12 August 19, 2010 QuoteI would like to add that if you read the entire book, you will see that it's not recorded as an instruction but as an account of the law back then. Kind of like Matthew chapter 1 which is the begots or generation of Jesus. It's a record of what happened. That's the kind of conversation I was looking for. I sometimes use the "Oh yeah, the Bible also says I can sell my daughters into slavery," argument. I don't have the Bible knowledge to verify the validity of that, so I thought I would bring it up here and see what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #13 August 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteI would like to add that if you read the entire book, you will see that it's not recorded as an instruction but as an account of the law back then. Kind of like Matthew chapter 1 which is the begots or generation of Jesus. It's a record of what happened. That's the kind of conversation I was looking for. I sometimes use the "Oh yeah, the Bible also says I can sell my daughters into slavery," argument. I don't have the Bible knowledge to verify the validity of that, so I thought I would bring it up here and see what happens. OK, I'll play along. Where do you want to go?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #14 August 19, 2010 To the matter at hand... Best explanation I've found. QuoteThere is a historical context and a cultural background and the language-style of the day is worth examining. A parent could sell their daughter as a servant/apprentice/employee or a potential wife (Don’t forget, this was a culture where marriages were sometimes arranged). The father ‘sells’ his daughter for both a labor and bride price. Sometimes this was done because of the parent’s debt & poverty; much like giving up a child for adoption believing their child would be better provided for with a chance for a brighter future. If the ‘master/employer’ became unhappy with the situation, he must let her parents or friends ‘buy her back' if possible. If the ‘master’ selects her as a bride for his son, he must grant her the full rights of a daughter. A present day example would be like this: When a citizen of the United States signs up [Edit: or whose parents sign for them...] to be a Marine, that individual gives up a certain amount of rights. The employer-employee relationship of the United States and a Marine is unique and unlike any other business arrangement in the country. It is stricter and more binding. In other words, you cannot decide to simply quit & move on to another job. It is not that easy. Therefore the term ‘slave’ or ‘servant’ in this verse does not refer to somebody who does not have rights. In this verse God is saying if this happens, here are the rights of the parents, here are the rights of the master/employer and here are the daughter’s rights. SOURCE: http://www.starrisingministries.com/Exodus_21_7-11_meaning.htmlNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #15 August 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI would like to add that if you read the entire book, you will see that it's not recorded as an instruction but as an account of the law back then. Kind of like Matthew chapter 1 which is the begots or generation of Jesus. It's a record of what happened. That's the kind of conversation I was looking for. I sometimes use the "Oh yeah, the Bible also says I can sell my daughters into slavery," argument. I don't have the Bible knowledge to verify the validity of that, so I thought I would bring it up here and see what happens. OK, I'll play along. Where do you want to go? Seriously: Nowhere. Just wanted to learn something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #16 August 19, 2010 Quote OK, I'll play along. Where do you want to go? Seriously: Nowhere. Just wanted to learn something. BIGUN provided an excellent reference site. Another, is www.biblegateway.com.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
