turtlespeed 226 #51 September 23, 2010 QuoteGravity can be observed in the lab. We cannot duplicate it or manipulate it. We cannot simulate it. We do not understand how it works. These are your words. I am equating them to God as well.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #52 September 23, 2010 QuoteSo unless you believe 0 = .9999, your statement doesn't work. Oh dear, here comes the algebraic fallacy. Wait for it . . . wait for it . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #53 September 23, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteBut to the point - both can be proven the exact same amount. The existence of gravity and the existance of an actual god? I think you've been taking too many of those 'simulants'. Nope. He stated that gravity cannot be proven, but it is obvious. You can simulate it, and you can show it working, but you cannot show how it works or what makes it work. Ah, you miss the point - the distinction between the observable, testable existance of gravity and the understanding of the mechanism of gravity.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #54 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Gravity can be observed in the lab. We cannot duplicate it or manipulate it. We cannot simulate it. We do not understand how it works. These are your words. I am equating them to God as well. Go on then. Show me God in the lab.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #55 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Gravity can be observed in the lab. We cannot duplicate it or manipulate it. We cannot simulate it. We do not understand how it works. These are your words. I am equating them to God as well. Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #56 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #57 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. So is dropping someone from a plane - but it was offered.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #58 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. So is dropping someone from a plane - but it was offered. Dropping someone from a plane offers a solid demonstration of actual, real gravity doing what actual, real gravity does, in a manner that can be accurately predicted through our knowledge of the effects of actual, real gravity. Giving someone chemicals does not demonstrate any effects of God, predictable or otherwise.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #59 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. So is dropping someone from a plane - but it was offered. Dropping someone from a plane offers a solid demonstration of actual, real gravity doing what actual, real gravity does, in a manner that can be accurately predicted through our knowledge of the effects of actual, real gravity. Giving someone chemicals does not demonstrate any effects of God, predictable or otherwise. Prove it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #60 September 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. So is dropping someone from a plane - but it was offered. Dropping someone from a plane offers a solid demonstration of actual, real gravity doing what actual, real gravity does, in a manner that can be accurately predicted through our knowledge of the effects of actual, real gravity. Giving someone chemicals does not demonstrate any effects of God, predictable or otherwise. Prove it. Ah, no - you're totally backwards. It's the person with the positive claim that needs to do the proving. So if you think God is as provable as gravity, and you can produce him in a lab, go for it! Oh no wait, I forgot, you do have proof of God, but you wont tell us what it is and we just have to trust you on it. Really persuasive.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #61 September 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Go on then. Show me God in the lab. Lay down on the table. I'll give you the chems. You do realize that manipulation of chemical processes in the central nervous system to produce similar experiences to those described by religious believers is actually supportive of the position that there is no god? Don't take that to mean I'm arguing it proves or disproves anything, I'm just saying that drugging someone is a remarkably poor way to convince them god exists. So is dropping someone from a plane - but it was offered. Dropping someone from a plane offers a solid demonstration of actual, real gravity doing what actual, real gravity does, in a manner that can be accurately predicted through our knowledge of the effects of actual, real gravity. Giving someone chemicals does not demonstrate any effects of God, predictable or otherwise. Prove it. Ah, no - you're totally backwards. It's the person with the positive claim that needs to do the proving. So if you think God is as provable as gravity, and you can produce him in a lab, go for it! Oh no wait, I forgot, you do have proof of God, but you wont tell us what it is and we just have to trust you on it. Really persuasive. You got it. Welcome aboard.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #62 September 24, 2010 Quote Quote Oh no wait, I forgot, you do have proof of God, but you wont tell us what it is and we just have to trust you on it. Really persuasive. You got it. Welcome aboard. I never really did care too much about that gag clause in the contract of faith, but oh well, He's the boss.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #63 September 24, 2010 QuoteYou got it. The first thing you've said in this thread that's correct.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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