Iran: West taints cigarettes with pig blood

[Andy9o8 2]

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Are humans fallible, or is there some evil unifying force?

Human fallibility is the unifying force.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Are humans fallible, or is there some evil unifying force?

Human fallibility is the unifying force.

So...you're saying God is the mastermind behind Rhys's conspiracy?

[Andy9o8 2]

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Are humans fallible, or is there some evil unifying force?

Human fallibility is the unifying force.

So...you're saying God is the mastermind behind Rhys's conspiracy?

Rhys's conspiracy is the mastermind of God.

[rhys 0]

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Ah, so your usual conspiracy bullshit, vague reasoning and no concrete proof or answers.

Don't know why I expected differently.

hahaha vague! don't you work for the military or a contractor?


where to you think your countries fortune has gone in the last 80 years?

I'm not going to be your history and current affairs teacher, I have read you posts and you do understand about these things and all you are doing is trying to lure me away from the point that you are trying to avoid, this is your country we are talking about and if you want to debate about it you should at least bring some knowledeg to the table.

I'll give you a couple to keep you happy;

halliburton, blackwater, lockheed martin...

if you don't believe it is in the best interests of these entities for the USA to be at war, then you are seriously mistaken.

Try again fatso

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[rhys 0]

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So which is it, Rhys? Are humans fallible, or is there some evil unifying force? You're trying to straddle a pretty big valley here.

I'm not sure fallable it the word I would use, that is about making mistakes, and as much as that is part of the problem, it is our desire to empower one onther and make personal gain, financially and socially. this is something we do on purpose and fallable does not explain at all what I am talking about.

Evil force, that sounds like christian talk and i don't want to imply anything about fables of red skinned monsters under the earths crust with horns and a fork

Our human nature somehow allows some of us to over step the boundries of what is considered reasonable.


While for the most part this sme instinct is kept in check by out emotions and sense of integrety and self worth.
Why would a billionaire wan't any more money, what drives people to rape and murder and steal from each other, sometimes it is out of desparation, but for the most part it plain old greed, why do greedy people feel the need to be that way?

You tell me, but this is what I am talking about and you would expect that most of us would clearly understand this human attribute, and it is not just limited to humans. It is natural but it is one of lifes balances that we have the responsability to keep in check.

You can just get walked all over or you can discuss it and try to do something about it. Most are apathetic and don't want to know but you guys in here that ridicule me for wanting to know more about it are simply in denial or you are well aware but defendng the actions of these greedy cunts as you may beleive you benifit from them.

I should not have had to spell that out for you, but it seems your comprehention is not what you make it out to be, or you are hiding your knowledge of the truth.

which is it?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[billvon 3,085]

>While I find these accusations amusing, I wonder if anyone actually
>believes them...

Well, based on the number of right wingers who circulated the below urban myths, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people did.

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HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS . . . it worked once in our History . . .

Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the
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Subject: How to end the war quickly if you have absolutely no respect for pigs!

An Israeli friend recently informed me that the UK fought the Islamic terrorist attacks by burying the criminals with a pig. Apparently the Islamic belief is that if ones' body is buried with a pig (because they are considered unclean) their soul will go to hell. I did a little research into this subject matter and found it to be true. This got me thinking.

If we put a baby pig on every airline flight then all suicide terrorists would abort their missions as they would not want their souls to go to hell. Additionally, if we drop shipped, oh say, 100,000 pigs into Afghanistan I think our recon and assault efforts may be more successful. Apparently Muslims dislike the very sight of pigs A LOT!

[kelpdiver 2]

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I should not have had to spell that out for you, but it seems your comprehention is not what you make it out to be, or you are hiding your knowledge of the truth.

which is it?

No one here has your comprehension of reality, nor your grasp on ethics that allows you to freely steal without remorse, yet castigate corporations for acting in their self interest.

Again, my question to you is how to understand your remarks that people often act badly out of nature, something that is part of all humans, to your ongoing jihad against the secret Cabal of Bush, Halliburton, and Satan to lead the US to destroy all that is good in the world. Seems like it should be one or the other.

[kelpdiver 2]

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If we put a baby pig on every airline flight then all suicide terrorists would abort their missions as they would not want their souls to go to hell.

but the smell! Couldn't we just throw a package of bacon in the fridge? Just as likely to touch the terrorist, right?

These sort of zero tolerance beliefs, whether real or not, are not just as Islamic trait. The Catholics believe that if you can't give confession or get the last rites before death, your soul gets trapped in Purgatory. Would any sane assessment of God think that he's really an asshole who would reject the poor schmuck that got killed in the Twin Towers? This is more about the Church acting in its own self interest.

How they get their followers to take these edicts so seriously is the part that puzzles me. I wonder how many Muslims really believe they're screwed if their enemy uses pork products against them.

[billvon 3,085]

>The 'nuclear material' is more peculiar though.

Actually, that's not even literally wrong. Coal power plants exhaust a significant amount of uranium and thorium (a nuclear fission decay product) into the atmosphere; these settle out of the atmosphere onto everything, including plants. With a good enough mass spectrometer you could indeed detect uranium and thorium on most tobacco, especially if grown near such a power plant.

(Of course, there is no more such material on smuggled cigarettes as there is on non-smuggled cigarettes, so the logic is still screwy.)

[champu 1]

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(Of course, there is no more such material on smuggled cigarettes as there is on non-smuggled cigarettes, so the logic is still screwy.)

My comment earlier in the thread was to suggest that there may have been a slap stick comedy moment when it was realized that the government was using the same docks to receive smuggled nuclear weapons material as the citizens were using to receive bacon and cigarettes.

Cue I Love Lucy theme song.

[rhys 0]

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No one here has your comprehension of reality, nor your grasp on ethics that allows you to freely steal without remorse, yet castigate corporations for acting in their self interest.

There sure are some alternative realities represented in here isn't there.

If you think using the sytem to your advantage includes killing people for profit and that is an any way comparable to returning goods with a recipet for refund after you have used them, then you definately have a very alternative concept on wht is reality.

You talk as if it it just you, me, and everybody else and they are all on your side

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Again, my question to you is how to understand your remarks that people often act badly out of nature, something that is part of all humans, to your ongoing jihad against the secret Cabal of Bush, Halliburton, and Satan to lead the US to destroy all that is good in the world. Seems like it should be one or the other.

Wow what a load of codswollop, you need to get some sleep or something.

I see you are fishing for a tangent, you are trying too hard there bro, quite transparent.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[mnealtx 0]

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I'll give you a couple to keep you happy;

halliburton, blackwater, lockheed martin...

None of which are oil companies, rhys.

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if you don't believe it is in the best interests of these entities for the USA to be at war, then you are seriously mistaken.

If you think those companies only make money if the USA is on a war footing, then you are seriously mistaken.

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Try again fatso

Nice PA.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rhys 0]

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None of which are oil companies, rhys.

Halliburton is the worlds second largest oilfieds services company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

all those companies that make money from war, life is complex, you like to think all these people are fighting for the common good, but they are making money, shitloads of money and you are paying for it.

Oil is only a part of the problem, power and influence is the main catlyist.

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If you think those companies only make money if the USA is on a war footing, then you are seriously mistaken.

I am sure they have their fingers in plenty of pies, thats what those type of people do, they own multipule companies and let th
ose companies help each other, which is cool, but at what point do these handshakes full of cash become corruption and criminal?

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Nice PA.

Why thank you!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[mnealtx 0]

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None of which are oil companies, rhys.

Halliburton is the worlds second largest oilfieds services company.

Oilfield services != Oil company like BP, Shell, etc.

Try again.

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Nice PA.

Why thank you!

[kelpdiver 2]

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I see you are fishing for a tangent, you are trying too hard there bro, quite transparent.

Yep, keep trying to get you to be consistent. It's difficult wrestling a muddy pig, who flits from one opinion to another while pretending all are factual. That's asking a lot - I love the way you try to squirm out of the non uniform acceleration graph presented to you today. And every time you refer to the scientific method, I laugh.

[mnealtx 0]

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And every time you refer to the scientific method, I laugh.

A Jenga block tower isn't scientific? Surely you jest!!

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[StreetScooby 5]

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Have you EVER pondered what your safe little world would be like if we would have just told all of you to go fuck yourselves after WWII???


Personally I support doing just that........ bring.... everyone home.. and all of you can just build whateverr military you will need to protect yourselves from those who have a far different world view than you do and when some assclown desides to attack us... wipe them from the face of the fucking earth..... then go back to pondering our navels for another 20 years till someone tries it again.

Then let all the little pissant countries out there go to fucking hell... and try to defend themselves from the usual human nature. Deal with that.

Oh and by the way.. do some further checking... during the Afghanistan war..... Bin Laden was not on the list of people we gave help to.

+1, big time...

We are all engines of karma

[rhys 0]

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Oilfield services != Oil company like BP, Shell, etc.

Try again.

haha, no affiliation there, yep you got me on that one.

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Halliburton: We serve the upstream oil and gas industry throughout the life cycle of the reservoir – from locating hydrocarbons and managing geological data, to drilling and formation evaluation, well construction and completion, and optimizing production through the life of the field.

http://www.halliburton.com/ps/

for fucks sake, I suppose corruption does not exist in your false world?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[mnealtx 0]

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Oilfield services != Oil company like BP, Shell, etc.

Try again.

haha, no affiliation there,

No, there's an affiliation because they're both in the overall oil business, but not like you were alleging.

Halliburton builds/maintains oil rigs, they don't buy, sell or ship oil.

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yep you got me on that one.

No, you got yourself.

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for fucks sake, I suppose corruption does not exist in your false world?

Never said that - still waiting for you to show proof of what you claim, though.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rhys 0]

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+1, big time...

the thing is if you did that you would lose the high horse you prop yourself up with.

you made yourself the world police for the money involved but you can't seem to do the job very well.

Here you go crawling home with your tail between your legs (from iraq) and you still don't quite get it.

Do you seriously beleive there is any point in being in afghanistan now, what result will you get from that.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[rhys 0]

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No, there's an affiliation because they're both in the overall oil business, but not like you were alleging.

Halliburton builds/maintains oil rigs, they don't buy, sell or ship oil.

don't put words in my mouth, go back and read.

making money out of the middle eastern wars is not limited to selling oil, and making money out of oil is not limited to selling the liquid.

You inabilty to join the dots is consistent with your inability to understand anything other than what is dictated to you.

Is that a military thing?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[rhys 0]

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Bin Laden was not on the list of people we gave help to.

he is not on the FBI wanted list for 9/11 either, he is for the tanzanian bombings and other events, who is it that you blame now?

KSM?

OSL?

the first rogue to out their hand up?

Any country with natural recources or the ability to transport them?

get a fucking grip people.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[Amazon 7]

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+1, big time...

the thing is if you did that you would lose the high horse you prop yourself up with.

you made yourself the world police for the money involved but you can't seem to do the job very well.

Here you go crawling home with your tail between your legs (from iraq) and you still don't quite get it.

Do you seriously beleive there is any point in being in afghanistan now, what result will you get from that.

Spoken like the usual members of the GET something while giving absolutely nothing crowd.


That is why I want our people to stop protecting people who dont fucking deserve the protection and let those in the wet pants leg and puddle crowd have fun with those in the world who have a completely different world outlook. Too many stupid fuckers in this world need a reality check and a crash course in human nature.

[mnealtx 0]

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No, there's an affiliation because they're both in the overall oil business, but not like you were alleging.

Halliburton builds/maintains oil rigs, they don't buy, sell or ship oil.

don't put words in my mouth, go back and read.

Go back and read, yourself - I neither added nor took away anything from your statement. I separated it into parts to answer them separately and correct yet ANOTHER one of your misconceptions.

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making money out of the middle eastern wars is not limited to selling oil, and making money out of oil is not limited to selling the liquid.

You make the (very large) mistake of thinking that Iraq / Afghanistan is the only places these companies are doing work - I believe I also mentioned this up-thread, as well.

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You inabilty to join the dots is consistent with your inability to understand anything other than what is dictated to you.

Just because YOU can't comprehend anything other than what Alex Jones tells you doesn't mean the rest of us are equally blinded - kindly spare your projections.

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Is that a military thing?

Maybe in NZ, yeah.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[shah269 0]

I say we take a B2 bomber, fill it's bomb bay with porn and beer and porn and beer bomb the place.
Then stand back and watch the mullahs hang!
"thi is what you hae been keeping from us! beer and porn! off with your head"

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!