So it is acceptable to . . .

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. . . intimidate/harass people at the polls.

My question is this:

Who would you defend if the Black Panthers (or NBP what ever they are calling themselves now) were to go to Arizona and help enforce the immigration laws that the current administration is suing the State off Arizona to be able to ignore the problem.

Is there any difference between the NBP and the Neo Nazis?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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. . . intimidate/harass people at the polls.

I was unaware this was a possibility. Can you link me the upcoming election proposal in Arizona this might happen at?

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. . . intimidate/harass people at the polls.

I was unaware this was a possibility. Can you link me the upcoming election proposal in Arizona this might happen at?

Didn't understand the question did you?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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. . . intimidate/harass people at the polls.

I was unaware this was a possibility. Can you link me the upcoming election proposal in Arizona this might happen at?

Didn't understand the question did you?

It certainly didn't seem to make sense in relationship to your topic and the first line of your post.

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. . . intimidate/harass people at the polls.

I was unaware this was a possibility. Can you link me the upcoming election proposal in Arizona this might happen at?

Didn't understand the question did you?

It certainly didn't seem to make sense in relationship to your topic and the first line of your post.

I take that as confirmation.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I take that as confirmation.

Take it any way you want, but please explain how the two are related.

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I take that as confirmation.

Take it any way you want, but please explain how the two are related.

1st off, the incidents at the polls are an identifier. I wouldn't want you to misconstrue which Black Panters I am speaking of.

2nd, it seems that there was a blind eye turned to the election incidents and up roar about who is patrolling the border.

So, my question is what would be said if it was the NBPs that were down south enforcing the laws that the feds and Obama refuse to enforce, instead of the neo-nazi groups.

Was that really so difficult for you?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I see, so it's a completely hypothetical situation you're setting up about something that may have happened in which no charges were ever brought and being applied to a situation in a completely different state and totally different situation because to my knowledge the Black Panther Party (any version) has never stated any intention of ever performing armed patrols of the US border.

But you still want to know what we'd think of it if they did?

Hey, here's a good one! What would happen if a dinosaur patrolled the US border?

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I see, so it's a completely hypothetical situation you're setting up.

Some like, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Something like that?

No. Not like that at all.

Nice edit BTW . . .

Your original unedited post asked for a list of charges. They were brought and then summarily dropped. You must have missed the whole turned a blind eye thing earlier.

. . . and now . . . responding to edit #2

Yes, Paul . . . that is what a hypothetical can be used for. Good on you for figuring it out.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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They were brought and then summarily dropped.

Exactly.

But, what do you think? Would it be ethical to patrol the border with dinosaurs? I think it would be cool. RAWR!

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Well, what do you think? Would it be ethical to patrol the border with dinosaurs? I think it would be cool.

I think it would be impossible depending on the specific dinos that you are speaking of.

Cloning hasn't become that reliable yet.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Well, what do you think? Would it be ethical to patrol the border with dinosaurs? I think it would be cool.

I think it would be impossible depending on the specific dinos that you are speaking of.
Cloning hasn't become that reliable yet.

Hmmm, maybe hypotheticals are pointless in some instances and are usually just verbal traps.

Maybe that's why most lawyers advise not answering them.

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Well, what do you think? Would it be ethical to patrol the border with dinosaurs? I think it would be cool.

I think it would be impossible depending on the specific dinos that you are speaking of.
Cloning hasn't become that reliable yet.

Hmmm, maybe hypotheticals are pointless in some instances and are usually just verbal traps.

Maybe that's why most lawyers advise not answering them.

They can also be a conversation starter.
You are scared of a verbal trap?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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You are scared of a verbal trap?

I see what you've done. It's as obvious as a dog turd laying in the middle of the sidewalk. If I can see, avoid and not step in it I will, but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of your shit.

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You are scared of a verbal trap?

I see what you've done. It's as obvious as a dog turd laying in the middle of the sidewalk. If I can see, avoid and not step in it I will, but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of your shit.

Perhaps you could share your revelation with the rest of the class.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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You are scared of a verbal trap?

I see what you've done. It's as obvious as a dog turd laying in the middle of the sidewalk. If I can see, avoid and not step in it I will, but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of your shit.

Perhaps you could share your revelation with the rest of the class.

Class was over several posts ago. Only a kid with a dunce cap would still have questions.

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The following may be helpful to understand what you are dealing with. Although intended for the military, it applies to any liberal attack.

SARGE’S GUIDE TO LIBERAL DEBATE TACTICS

There is an old joke about prisoners in a penitentiary who have heard each other’s jokes so many times, they assigned numbers to them and shout those out, rather than retelling the joke. This Guide is intended for Battalion S2 Commenters to use in the same manner. This post will be available in the “Links” section on the right hand side of the home page.
Eventually, Bn S2 will have enough Liberal and Conservative Commenters to have a lively debate, and to save time and bandwidth, you can refer to these Liberal Debate Tactics by number when they occur.

They are not presented in any particular order. 


1. SHOW UP WITH YOUR TALKING POINTS. Make sure you have something that you feel will show your opponents in a negative light, and make that the subject of the discussion.

2. DEMONIZE YOU OPPONENT. Attempt to cover them with shame, the same way you would a 4 year old that touches his pee-pee.

3. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DOING #2 ABOVE, SUPPORT HIM IMMEDIATELY.

4. ACCUSE YOU OPPONENT OF SAYING SOMETHING HE DIDN’T. Attempt to define his statements in a negative light. Interpret them this way and state it as fact that he did actually say it. NEVER ask him…always TELL him what his meaning was. 

5. CLAIM THAT IT IS “OLD NEWS” AND NOT WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. This applies especially when the discussion turns to the misdeeds of Democrat Party Leadership. 

6. QUOTE AN UNSOURCED NEW ARTICLE. Always quote the article selectively, or describe it in a general manner. 

7. IF ASKED DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEWS YOU HAVE PROVIDED, RESPOND INDIRECTLY. Never actually answer the specific of the question. 

8. IF ASKED TO SOURCE YOU NEWS ARTICLE, IGNORE THE QUESTION.

9. ACCUSE YOUR OPPONENT OF A MENTAL DEFECT OR LACK OF INTELLIGNCE. Personal attacks of this sort are especially useful as the target will almost always try to defend himself, thus changing the subject.

10. IF THE PARTY LEADERSHIP IS ATTACKED, ATTEMPT TO TURN THE TABLES BY INFERRING THAT SOMEONE IN YOUR OPPONENTS PARTY IS JUST AS BAD. 

11. ACCUSE YOUR OPPONENT OF NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. Try to do this before he has an opportunity to. Try to infer that it you have given him multiple opportunities to do so. Do it even if the question has been answered. If he misses the question and asks you to repeat it DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REPEAT THE QUESTION FOR HIS BENEFIT). 

12. RESORT TO INSULTS. Try to question you opponent’s masculinity, his resolve, ANYTHING, but try to diminish and demean him. (This is know as the “LBJ Rule” codified by him thus: “Accuse your opponent of being a pig fornicator, then make him deny it.) REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO THIS TACTIC, IT MEANS YOUR OPPONENT IS WINNING! 

13. ACCUSE YOUR OPPONENT OF BEING UNINFORMED. This works especially well when you are asked to provide your sources. It is especially effective if you work in a reference to someone you have already demonized. Rush Limbaugh is currently the Demon of Choice. 

14. SPEAK CRYPTICALLY. Try to make it difficult for people to divine your meaning

15. CHANGE THE SUBJECT. Try to get it back to your original talking points (see #1 above) 

16. APPEAR TO AGREE. You will need to do this in order to achieve #15. 
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17. CLAIM YOUR OPPONENT IS BEING UNREASONABLE OR WON’T LISTEN TO REASON, AND LEAVE IN A HUFF. 

18. BAIT YOUR OPPONENT. Needle him, tease him, call him names until he makes an inappropriate post, then scream bloody murder to the Moderator.

19. DENY THE EVIDENCE EXISTS. Ask for evidence of wrongdoing by those you support. When that evidence is presented, continue denying that it exists.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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So you're saying it's ok to eat live kittens. Clearly you (I mean, you and your kind) are mystified by the sound of one hand clapping.

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So you're saying it's ok to eat live kittens. Clearly you (I mean, you and your kind) are mystified by the sound of one hand clapping.

I was in the USAF with a man who had ate cat as a teenager. He said the neighbors hated him.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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So you're saying it's ok to eat live kittens. Clearly you (I mean, you and your kind) are mystified by the sound of one hand clapping.

Afterthought, if you switch hands you last longer.

Remember the yin = the yang. The ball just bounces but the soul continues for eternity.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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The following may be helpful to understand what you are dealing with. Although intended for the military, it applies to any liberal attack.

SARGE’S GUIDE TO LIBERAL DEBATE TACTICS

Funny that the people who do those things the most on here are all conservatives. I guess they must have mistaken a joke for real advice.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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This makes no sense, it's the libs who post sources and talk your ears off. Look at Mike, you can hardly pry a source out of him.