Andy9o8 2 #76 July 25, 2010 QuoteDo we have border issues? Absolutely. Agreed! We'll let damn near anyone in! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_%E2%80%93_United_States_border Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #77 July 25, 2010 QuoteSo your belief is that violence stemming from the Gulf Cartel and organizations like the Zetas are of no threat to us north of the Rio Grande? Don't hurt your shoulder reaching like that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #78 July 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Hey Gang. I can find nothing about this in the mainstream news sources (TV & Newspaper) in Laredo. Nor is there anything on CNN, Fox and MSNBC. Can anyone confirm this story through a nationally recognized news source? Read the "Mission and Belief" page on the OP's link. Credibility probably isn't this publication's strong suit. It seems to be designed provide the right wing nutters and religious fundies material to jerk off en masse. Seems to have worked! A lot of folks eat shit like that up. If, the Zetas did raid a ranch, it would be because something or someone is on that ranch that they want. They'd get it and get gone. Chuck Still no confirmation from any legit news organization.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #79 July 25, 2010 Quote They are basically the newspaper equivalent to Fox News, no doubt, No, they're not that good.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #80 July 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Hey Gang. I can find nothing about this in the mainstream news sources (TV & Newspaper) in Laredo. Nor is there anything on CNN, Fox and MSNBC. Can anyone confirm this story through a nationally recognized news source? Read the "Mission and Belief" page on the OP's link. Credibility probably isn't this publication's strong suit. It seems to be designed provide the right wing nutters and religious fundies material to jerk off en masse. Seems to have worked! A lot of folks eat shit like that up. If, the Zetas did raid a ranch, it would be because something or someone is on that ranch that they want. They'd get it and get gone. Chuck Still no confirmation from any legit news organization. ...and I doubt there will be. Zetas have been seen recently in Fort Hancock, Texas. A little town about half-way between El Paso and Van Horn. They were seen in Black Suburbans, following school busses and showing-up at basketball games. They had the town shook-up for about a month. They were obviously, looking fo someone. That lasted about a month and I haven't heard any more about it. It seems, they come across the border, take care of their business and leave. This recent story sounds like some reporter trying to make a 'name' for themselves. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #81 July 25, 2010 Quote http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/BREAKING_MULTIPLE_RANCHES_IN_LAREDO_TX_TAKEN_OVER_BY_LOS_ZETAS/31835 If there needs to be a clear case to activate and mobilize National Guard assets to the border, this is it. President Obama - Your citizens have been displaced by foreign invaders in what is clearly an armed insurrection. What will you do about it? Governor Perry - If the President doesn't act, it falls to you and your role a Commander-in-Chief of the Texas National Guard. What action will you take? Inaction is treason in my eyes. Assets need to be put in place to block the egress of these thugs and they need to be confronted, with extreme prejudice. This is a clear case of someone I respect being duped into furthering the agenda of of an unscrupulous "reporter". Max, what are you prepared to do to prevent this happening in the future? What action will you take? Inaction is not the answer. A healthy skeptical mindset must be put into place and critical thinking skills must be mobilized to prevent you being used like a tool in this manner again.(All said tongue in cheek, but you get the picture....) Mike- think about what it takes for you to accept something is the truth. Raise the bar. I hate to see fellow skydivers so easily tricked. You guys are better than this."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #82 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/BREAKING_MULTIPLE_RANCHES_IN_LAREDO_TX_TAKEN_OVER_BY_LOS_ZETAS/31835 If there needs to be a clear case to activate and mobilize National Guard assets to the border, this is it. President Obama - Your citizens have been displaced by foreign invaders in what is clearly an armed insurrection. What will you do about it? Governor Perry - If the President doesn't act, it falls to you and your role a Commander-in-Chief of the Texas National Guard. What action will you take? Inaction is treason in my eyes. Assets need to be put in place to block the egress of these thugs and they need to be confronted, with extreme prejudice. This is a clear case of someone I respect being duped into furthering the agenda of of an unscrupulous "reporter". Max, what are you prepared to do to prevent this happening in the future? What action will you take? Inaction is not the answer. A healthy skeptical mindset must be put into place and critical thinking skills must be mobilized to prevent you being used like a tool in this manner again.(All said tongue in cheek, but you get the picture....) Mike- think about what it takes for you to accept something is the truth. Raise the bar. I hate to see fellow skydivers so easily tricked. You guys are better than this. I've already expressed my thoughts on that, I think it's on page three of the thread. The thing is that no one that "reported" on this is backing down from their assertion. These people are begging for the rope... What this brings to my mind is this: **If this event happened (IF), an equally serious issue other than the event itself, is that the press was a willing party to suppress such critical information. **If this report is a hoax, those of us that want thorough border control (not necessarily immigration reform in a broad sense), are losing legitimate methods to make our points because clowns like this pretty much drag the rest of us down with it. It really does kill the legitimate movements to find a solution, and I don't like it one bit. To answer your question as to what will I do about this in the future? I'm not going to start walking on egg-shells over this. I can apply skepticism and carry on. Mexico is border-line complicit in refusing to extradite cop-killers from their country to stand justice here in the US. Private citizens have been killed, law enforcement officers get ambushed, and gun battles in Nuevo Laredo send rounds in an indirect fashion raining down on Laredo, TX.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #83 July 25, 2010 QuoteWhat this brings to my mind is this: **If this event happened (IF), an equally serious issue other than the event itself, is that the press was a willing party to suppress such critical information. **If this report is a hoax, those of us that want thorough border control (not necessarily immigration reform in a broad sense), are losing legitimate methods to make our points because clowns like this pretty much drag the rest of us down with it. It really does kill the legitimate movements to find a solution, and I don't like it one bit. Both valid concerns, imho. Well said."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #84 July 25, 2010 QuoteOK, lets say for sake of discussion that the original claim of MULTIPLE RANCHES ...TAKEN OVER BY LOS ZETAS was true. Would their be any legal justification to consider this a "foreign invasion" requiring a military response? Wouldn't this be a "home invasion" type crime, handled by local/state law enforcement, with backup from federal agencies if relevant laws were violated (such as crossing state lines)? Wouldn't use of military forces violate the Posse Comitatus Act? No doubt Mexico is going to hell in a handbasket over these drug gangs, but the gangs do not represent the Mexican Government any more than American criminals speak for the US Government. There is a difference between a "home invasion" and an "armed insurrection". Don I'd call it a 'terrorist attack', due to the fact the Zetas are terrorists and foreign nationals. Local law enforcement would start and let the military take-over. Then too, this is just talk because no ranches have been taken-over and just a guess. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #85 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote Hey Gang. I can find nothing about this in the mainstream news sources (TV & Newspaper) in Laredo. Nor is there anything on CNN, Fox and MSNBC. Can anyone confirm this story through a nationally recognized news source? Read the "Mission and Belief" page on the OP's link. Credibility probably isn't this publication's strong suit. It seems to be designed provide the right wing nutters and religious fundies material to jerk off en masse. I think I love you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #86 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote They are basically the newspaper equivalent to Fox News, no doubt, but the slanting is in the description of events, not outright fabrications. No, that's the thing, they aren't a newspaper at all. It takes -zero- qualifications to be "hired" by examiner.com. You set up an account, copy and paste whatever bullshit you please from whatever PAC or political leaning, knitting circle, movie news . . . whatever you happen to like and you end up getting maybe $50 a month if you have enough traffic. "Examiner.com" doesn't give a flying fudge-cycle what you post. The ONLY thing they care about is having a huge number of bloggers so it puts them at the top of Google searches for just about anything you type in. Then, when the sucker/user clicks on their link instead of the expensive Goodle Ad Word link, they make money from the ad revenue place on your site and they pass a small portion of that along. I could not believe he posted EXAMINER.COM..... DUUUUUUUUUUUDEThat shit cracked me up From WIKI Quote Pay scale Examiners are paid based on page views, or the "Gawker-model", made famous by the blog Gawker.com. The more page views an Examiner generates, the more they are reportedly paid. During 2009 many of the writers were receiving .01 per page view. Examiner.com later offered a variety of pay scale options to their writers.[14] [edit] Criticism Examiner.com has been criticized for its lack of verification and fact-checking of stories published on the site.[15] L.J. Williamson, a writer who was briefly employed by Examiner.com, drew attention to the site's lack of editorial oversight by publishing a series of satirical prank articles,[16] which went unnoticed by Examiner.com's staff until Williamson published what she described as an homage to a well-known satirical piece written by Hunter S. Thompson, in which Thompson claimed that presidential candidate Edmund Muskie showed symptoms of being under the influence of Ibogaine. In Williamson's satirical piece, she claimed that actress Jenny McCarthy advocated Ibogaine as a treatment for autism. Examiner.com staff only noticed and withdrew Williamson's prank stories when lawyers for McCarthy contacted them and demanded that the piece be removed.[17] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #87 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Hey Gang. I can find nothing about this in the mainstream news sources (TV & Newspaper) in Laredo. Nor is there anything on CNN, Fox and MSNBC. Can anyone confirm this story through a nationally recognized news source? Read the "Mission and Belief" page on the OP's link. Credibility probably isn't this publication's strong suit. It seems to be designed provide the right wing nutters and religious fundies material to jerk off en masse. I think I love you Calls it like I sees it.... I have no love for nutters on either side of the political spectrum....left or right."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #88 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Hey Gang. I can find nothing about this in the mainstream news sources (TV & Newspaper) in Laredo. Nor is there anything on CNN, Fox and MSNBC. Can anyone confirm this story through a nationally recognized news source? Read the "Mission and Belief" page on the OP's link. Credibility probably isn't this publication's strong suit. It seems to be designed provide the right wing nutters and religious fundies material to jerk off en masse. I think I love you Calls it like I sees it.... I have no love for nutters on either side of the political spectrum....left or right. Yup.... The evil US government blew up the WTC guy still posts stuff that makes me scratch my head with WTF.. but our little Italian wanna be anarchist seems to have found other more fertile ground to post the lunatic fringe desires for his wet dream utopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tf15 0 #89 July 28, 2010 Well, another lie from the right wing blogosphere bites the dust. They must have a really poor opinion of their readers intelligence. Three times is enemy action Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #90 July 28, 2010 Quote How much do you know about the history of the gang? You've never had much credibility in my eyes to begin with. You now have zero.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #91 July 28, 2010 QuoteQuote How much do you know about the history of the gang? You've never had much credibility in my eyes to begin with. You now have zero. That would still be more than the credibility of the people who believed the story and promoted it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
