Deputy's Son Shoots Burglars To Protect Sister

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(video at link) http://www.khou.com/news/Deputy-Son-acted-to-protect-sister-98962129.html
HOUSTON -- A Harris County Precinct 1 Constable Deputy whose son fired an assault rifle after burglars broke into his family's home said his son acted to protect his younger sister.

Deputy Vince Guerra said his 15-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter were home alone when a man and a teenager broke into their Northwest Harris County home on June 29.

"They drove up, the neighbors said, like they were visiting," he said. "They came in through the back window, and that's when my son took action, because they were inside the house."

Guerra said the most recent break-in was the second at his home in seven weeks.

"I've always talked to [my children] about safety and security in the house," he said, "Especially when I'm not at the house. I tell them that he has to protect his sister and mother."

Kinzy Evans, one of the men the Harris County Sheriff's Office said broke into Guerra's home, was shot at least three times.

He is being held at the Harris County Jail on a burglary charge.

The teenager accused of breaking into the home with Evans was turned over to juvenile authorities and was also charged with burglary.

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what? he was shot with a scary black rifle and wasn't instantly killed? but but but... how can that be?

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what? he was shot with a scary black rifle and wasn't instantly killed? but but but... how can that be?

It was probably a 5.56 caliber rifle. If so, winsor might have a go at this....

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

I agree I that he should feel pride in what he did. does not change my point however

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age.

Indeed, but it would be even harder to cope if you just stood by and did nothing, while an intruder rapes your sister. I'd say he should be right proud of himself for defending the family successfully.

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Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age.

Indeed, but it would be even harder to cope if you just stood by and did nothing, while an intruder rapes your sister. I'd say he should be right proud of himself for defending the family successfully.

Yes, that is a given
I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

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However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

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However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

That's not just 'here in the US' - that any moral person.

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Absolutley
However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

That's not just 'here in the US' - that any moral person.

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

I agree I that he should feel pride in what he did. does not change my point however

Seriously, I am trying to understand your point..thats all! why should he feel bad in any way?

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

I agree I that he should feel pride in what he did. does not change my point however

Seriously, I am trying to understand your point..thats all! why should he feel bad in any way?

I am sorry but, for me, even if someone truly has is coming, shooting them and causing serious injury and pain would be something that would bother me for the rest of my life. Life and others (even those I do not know) mean that much to me.
Maybe it is my bad thinking it would be the same for many others

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

I agree I that he should feel pride in what he did. does not change my point however

Seriously, I am trying to understand your point..thats all! why should he feel bad in any way?

I am sorry but, for me, even if someone truly has is coming, shooting them and causing serious injury and pain would be something that would bother me for the rest of my life. Life and others (even those I do not know) mean that much to me.
Maybe it is my bad thinking it would be the same for many others

No Marc, it's not your bad. It's a defining virtue of humans to have some empathy for one another. Even when there is no choice but to harm another to save yourself (or your sister), it's normal to feel upset. There is a term for people who can maim or kill without feeling, they're called psychopaths.

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Absolutley
However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

I think, it depends on the person and their ability to do their job. Years ago, while my wife was in law enforcement, she was involved in a late night stand-off. A deputy had earlier, tried to serve a murder warrant on the guy. The guy was barricaded in his house and using a .38 and a 12-gauge. My wife was covering the back of the house while other deputies were covering the front. The guy fired a couple shots in my wife's direction. She returned 5 shots, aiming at the muzzle flashes. At some point, the guy turned around and was hit 5 times in the butt from her .357. At that point, the house was secured and the bad guy was taken to the hospital. My wife went about 'working' the scene and was asked if, she was all-right and if, she wanted to take a break. she informed her captain, she had 'a job to do!' Situations effect different people differently.


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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Absolutley
However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

I think, it depends on the person and their ability to do their job. Years ago, while my wife was in law enforcement, she was involved in a late night stand-off. A deputy had earlier, tried to serve a murder warrant on the guy. The guy was barricaded in his house and using a .38 and a 12-gauge. My wife was covering the back of the house while other deputies were covering the front. The guy fired a couple shots in my wife's direction. She returned 5 shots, aiming at the muzzle flashes. At some point, the guy turned around and was hit 5 times in the butt from her .357. At that point, the house was secured and the bad guy was taken to the hospital. My wife went about 'working' the scene and was asked if, she was all-right and if, she wanted to take a break. she informed her captain, she had 'a job to do!' Situations effect different people differently.


Chuck

Good example
And of course taking someone down is different than ending a life

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Absolutley
However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

I think, it depends on the person and their ability to do their job. Years ago, while my wife was in law enforcement, she was involved in a late night stand-off. A deputy had earlier, tried to serve a murder warrant on the guy. The guy was barricaded in his house and using a .38 and a 12-gauge. My wife was covering the back of the house while other deputies were covering the front. The guy fired a couple shots in my wife's direction. She returned 5 shots, aiming at the muzzle flashes. At some point, the guy turned around and was hit 5 times in the butt from her .357. At that point, the house was secured and the bad guy was taken to the hospital. My wife went about 'working' the scene and was asked if, she was all-right and if, she wanted to take a break. she informed her captain, she had 'a job to do!' Situations effect different people differently.


Chuck

Good example
And of course taking someone down is different than ending a life

In the situation I mentioned, it was nightime and quite dark. Then too, she was, an adult. Things could be different for a 15-yr. old. The way I see it, the young man did what he had to do to protect his sister and himself. I would say, he's been raised right.


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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Absolutley
However (and I am not disagreeing with you here) we here in the US haven given a value to life that that makes dealing with pumping lead into someone tough to deal with regardless of the situation. Police see this all the time. Even when totally justified, it is hard to live with.

I think, it depends on the person and their ability to do their job. Years ago, while my wife was in law enforcement, she was involved in a late night stand-off. A deputy had earlier, tried to serve a murder warrant on the guy. The guy was barricaded in his house and using a .38 and a 12-gauge. My wife was covering the back of the house while other deputies were covering the front. The guy fired a couple shots in my wife's direction. She returned 5 shots, aiming at the muzzle flashes. At some point, the guy turned around and was hit 5 times in the butt from her .357. At that point, the house was secured and the bad guy was taken to the hospital. My wife went about 'working' the scene and was asked if, she was all-right and if, she wanted to take a break. she informed her captain, she had 'a job to do!' Situations effect different people differently.


Chuck

Good example
And of course taking someone down is different than ending a life

In the situation I mentioned, it was nightime and quite dark. Then too, she was, an adult. Things could be different for a 15-yr. old. The way I see it, the young man did what he had to do to protect his sister and himself. I would say, he's been raised right.


Chuck

I agree completely

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

I think he'll probably feel a combination of both. I've had to defend myself (I didn't have a gun, but I was sure wishing I did!). I felt glad that I got myself out of the situation with minimal injury, but sorry that I was put in the position where I had to hurt someone because they were trying to hurt me.

The situation sucked for this teenager, but this was the best possible outcome. I'm glad he and his sister are okay, and hopefully the family will get the young man into counseling so he can better process the situation.

I agree that he probably grabbed the weapon he was most comfortable with, which is pretty much always better than grabbing something more powerful but less familiar.

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yeah, not the best choice for home defense, but in this case it seemed to do the job just fine.

It was likely the weapon the young man (almost called him a boy, then I pictured some of the 15 year olds I know) was the most comfortable with. I suspect dad will help him expand his comfort zone after this.

Off on a tangent a bit but, I would find it hard to cope if I had to do what this young man did regardless of his age. His age would seem to me to make it even harder to live with even though the man is still alive.

Why?

I doubt he feels anything but "pride" in protecting his family...Plus he must either be lucky, or a good shot, to only wound someone with an assualt rifle!

keep in mnd, this is the son of a cop, he deals with the pocibilty pf death eveyrr day...I seriously doubt it bothered him at all!

As for pride; absolutley.

As for the assault rifle, most are smaller caliber than hunting rifles, so I'm not surprised. Same with assault pistols, most are small. Now come the Desert Eagle comments. I did say most.

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I KNOW I would be pissed at the SOB for forcing me to make the decision however

Correct, but that's how the young man gets over the turmoil in his mind, because it was the INTRUDER'S actions that forced the young man to do it. It's not like the young man shot someone without a valid reason, or as a criminal act, or out of hatred. He's got nothing to be ashamed of.

Yea, I don;t get Rush on this one. Now if you shoot an innocent bystander in this process I get the guilt, here I don't see a reason to feel bad at all.

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Question:
Had that been anyone other than an LEO's son, what's the odds that he would have been arrested and charged with any number of offenses dealing with shootings?

And....what's the odds that the perp will file a civil suit?

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As for the assault rifle, most are smaller caliber than hunting rifles, so I'm not surprised. Same with assault pistols, most are small. Now come the Desert Eagle comments. I did say most.