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For how long of a period do you feel the government should provide unemployment benefits? A year? 18 months? 36 months? Indefinitely?



As long as there is a lot of unemp, 9.5% then it's warranted. Let's say 7% is a good time to let up as a start.



What fucking planet do you live on?



Says the guy with nothing to add.

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Factoid indirectly related to the topic:

According to a report I got today, only 25% of 2010 college graduates with bachelor's degrees have found jobs or admission to graduate school so far. Even traditionally employable majors like engineering are way down.



WOW, even engineering, the degree I used to call bulletproof.

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How does the gov't giving people money it doesn't have stimulate the economy?

Seems like unemployment is turning into the new welfare... [:/]



Unemployment has always been a form of welfare, just that RWers don't like to label that as welfare because they draw it sometimes. Just like SS and Medicare, they are also welfare, I love to tell old SS/Medicare recipients that they are welfare whores, they hate that.

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They are, tax cuts, which are virtually only for the very rich, turn into stagnate bank accounts. Unemp checks hit the economy in minutes; not real hard to understand.



Banks circulate money. I take it that you forget that the Depression was made worse because people pulled their money out of banks so it wasn't available for investment.

Unemployment checks hit the economy in minutes. Yeah. Take money out of the economy and putting it back in does not seem to be good for the economy.


[Reply]Or raise taxes to nab some of those elitist, hard-stolen dollars.


This statement says it all. The taxes aren't about helping anybody but are about punishing one or more groups of people that you want to see suffer. Of course, the true "elitists" are the ones with the self-anointed authority to determine who should and should not be punished.

You don't care about people. You hate some people. You'll get further if you admit that because it will display some intellectual honesty.


As Luck would have it,...don't exspect intellectual honesty coming from him anytime soon.

Ewwwww, so shrewd :o. Thx for contributing your usual nothing.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100721/ap_on_bi_ge/us_unemployment_benefits

Yea, I know, all those unemployed people are just whiners.



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Republicans say they support the benefits extension. But with the exception of Maine GOP moderates Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, who voted with Democrats on Tuesday, they insist any benefits be financed by cuts to programs elsewhere in the $3.7 trillion federal budget.



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President Barack Obama is hailing pay-as-you-go budget legislation he signed Friday night as one in a series of crucial steps needed to snap Washington out of a destructive pattern of overspending.

“Now, Congress will have to pay for what it spends, just like everybody else,” Obama said in his radio and Internet address released Saturday morning.



The attachment says it all...



Still searching for a valid point. Esp after taking a positive economy and surplus and hammering into a 5T debt.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100721/ap_on_bi_ge/us_unemployment_benefits

Yea, I know, all those unemployed people are just whiners.


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All Democrats want to do is borrow money from China to buy votes.They pass paygo and exempt every bill they propose...[:/]

On May 10, The Detroit News found job applicants turning down landscaping companies’ offers of employment. Tom Corbett, a Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor, told a Harrisburg, Pa., radio station that some construction companies in his state are dealing with the same problem.

Corbett said the companies told him some laid-off workers have refused work until they run out of unemployment checks, according to an AP story. In fact, Pennsylvania has reported more than $4 million in unemployment fraud, according to WGAL.com

Lancaster Nissan dealers expressed “frustration after several applicants were offered jobs but turned them down.” One was a former car salesman who didn’t want to lose his benefits by working.


Who did The previous borrow from? Oh, China.

You don't have to go from a 50k/yr job and accept minimum wage. I realize those compassionate R's would love that, but that's not how it works.

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Yea, I know, all those unemployed people are just whiners.


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All Democrats want to do is borrow money from China to buy votes.They pass paygo and exempt every bill they propose...[:/]

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Republican whining about borrow and spend would be credible if they hadn't perfected it themselves.

Under Saint Reagan the debt grew from 33.3% of GDP in 1980 to 51.9% at the end of 1988 and the deficit increased from 2.7% in 1980 to more than double in 1983, when it reached 6%; in 1984, 1985 and 1986 it was around 5%.

Under Reagan the USA borrowed heavily and the national debt more than tripled, from ~$700 billion to ~$3 trillion in 8 years.

Under Reagan the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.

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Yea, I know, all those unemployed people are just whiners.


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All Democrats want to do is borrow money from China to buy votes.They pass paygo and exempt every bill they propose...[:/]

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Republican whining about borrow and spend would be credible if they hadn't perfected it themselves.

Under Saint Reagan the debt grew from 33.3% of GDP in 1980 to 51.9% at the end of 1988 and the deficit increased from 2.7% in 1980 to more than double in 1983, when it reached 6%; in 1984, 1985 and 1986 it was around 5%.

Under Reagan the USA borrowed heavily and the national debt more than tripled, from ~$700 billion to ~$3 trillion in 8 years.

Under Reagan the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.

Those in glass houses...


Bizzare that they actually blame Dems. Even more bizzare that they get followers. It must really suck to be an ideologue.

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They are, tax cuts, which are virtually only for the very rich, turn into stagnate bank accounts. Unemp checks hit the economy in minutes; not real hard to understand.



Banks circulate money. I take it that you forget that the Depression was made worse because people pulled their money out of banks so it wasn't available for investment.

Unemployment checks hit the economy in minutes. Yeah. Take money out of the economy and putting it back in does not seem to be good for the economy.


[Reply]Or raise taxes to nab some of those elitist, hard-stolen dollars.


This statement says it all. The taxes aren't about helping anybody but are about punishing one or more groups of people that you want to see suffer. Of course, the true "elitists" are the ones with the self-anointed authority to determine who should and should not be punished.

You don't care about people. You hate some people. You'll get further if you admit that because it will display some intellectual honesty.


As Luck would have it,...don't exspect intellectual honesty coming from him anytime soon.


Ewwwww, so shrewd :o. Thx for contributing your usual nothing.

I find your Rants somewhat confusing...but I'm sure its just me.

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I don't really care how it's funded.



Good to know that you are for fiscal responsibility.

I think the attachment mnealtx posted fits your attitude to a tee.



Funny how right wingers suddenly discover fiscal responsibility now that their profligate borrow-and-spenders are out of office.
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I don't really care how it's funded.



Good to know that you are for fiscal responsibility.

I think the attachment mnealtx posted fits your attitude to a tee.


Funny how right wingers suddenly discover fiscal responsibility now that their profligate borrow-and-spenders are out of office.


Couldn't possibly be in this economic meltdown that they are seeing the error of their ways... :S
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I don't really care how it's funded.



Good to know that you are for fiscal responsibility.

I think the attachment mnealtx posted fits your attitude to a tee.



Funny how right wingers suddenly discover fiscal responsibility now that their profligate borrow-and-spenders are out of office.



Funny how you keep using this argument to justify bad fiscal responsibility for the group you support.

Two wrongs do make a right in your world apparently.

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For how long of a period do you feel the government should provide unemployment benefits? A year? 18 months? 36 months? Indefinitely?



As long as there is a lot of unemp, 9.5% then it's warranted. Let's say 7% is a good time to let up as a start.



What part of "for how long" don't you understand?
Edit to add: In case the concept slipped by you.....for how long do you think any one person should be able to collect unemployment benefits from the government?
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I don't really care how it's funded.



Good to know that you are for fiscal responsibility.

I think the attachment mnealtx posted fits your attitude to a tee.



Funny how right wingers suddenly discover fiscal responsibility now that their profligate borrow-and-spenders are out of office.



Funny how you keep using this argument to justify bad fiscal responsibility for the group you support.

Two wrongs do make a right in your world apparently.



Two wrongs from the right, Saint Ronald Reagan and G.W. Bush, between them multiplied the national debt by a factor of nearly 6. On average the neo-con presidents raised the national debt by 10.8% EVERY YEAR.

The three largest increases in debt/GDP ratio since 1945 have been under presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush.

Under the Reagan/Bush administrations the USA went from the world's largest creditor to the world's largest debtor.

From July to October 2008, while Bush2 was president, the national debt increased by over $1 Trillion. In Oct 2008 alone the national debt increased by $500 Billion. No month or 4 month period before or since have seen such large increases.

Did all this borrowed money go to make us safer, educate our children or improve our infrastructure? No, mostly it went to make the rich even richer.
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It must really suck to be an ideologue.



Come this Nov you will see for yourself



Oh so you think the GOP will invite everyone to the BIG WHITE rePUBIClown Circus Tent?



everyone that is a registered voter- you betcha.

might get more exclusive again in December, of course.

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I don't really care how it's funded.



Good to know that you are for fiscal responsibility.

I think the attachment mnealtx posted fits your attitude to a tee.


Funny how right wingers suddenly discover fiscal responsibility now that their profligate borrow-and-spenders are out of office.


Couldn't possibly be in this economic meltdown that they are seeing the error of their ways... :S


No, I think it's more likely to be pure hypocrisy.
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Couldn't possibly be in this economic meltdown that they are seeing the error of their ways... :S



No, I think it's more likely to be pure hypocrisy.


most of self proclaimed cons here complained about Rep spending also


however, you are correct - Libs are consistent

they want to spend us into ruin during a Republican administration

and they want to spend us into ruin during a Democratic administration

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The three largest increases in debt/GDP ratio since 1945 have been under presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush.



But unless (and perhaps anyway) Obama loses his reelection bid, he's going to join them.

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From July to October 2008, while Bush2 was president, the national debt increased by over $1 Trillion. In Oct 2008 alone the national debt increased by $500 Billion. No month or 4 month period before or since have seen such large increases.



Sounds like bad accounting, since the actual cost of TARP is going to be around 100B, not the 700B face value. As this money has come back, the Democrats have seen it as money to be respent without having to treat it as new debt, even though that's just as stupid as in college when you pay the bill with a credit card and take "free" cash from your buddies. And we already know that TARP was not desired by many of the participants, so painting it as a bailout of the rich is another simplification.

Extended benefits may be fine, but something else has to give on the budget. Get out of Iraq, buy fewer F35s, scrap the Mars mission, or take the money out of the Stimupork package.

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The three largest increases in debt/GDP ratio since 1945 have been under presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush.



But unless (and perhaps anyway) Obama loses his reelection bid, he's going to join them.

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From July to October 2008, while Bush2 was president, the national debt increased by over $1 Trillion. In Oct 2008 alone the national debt increased by $500 Billion. No month or 4 month period before or since have seen such large increases.



Sounds like bad accounting, .



Tell that to the US Treasury - it's from their data. I guess you'll do it right after you tell the IRS how to do its job.
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Factoid indirectly related to the topic:

According to a report I got today, only 25% of 2010 college graduates with bachelor's degrees have found jobs or admission to graduate school so far. Even traditionally employable majors like engineering are way down.



Summer's not over yet. I don't know of many college grads that aren't drowning them selves in beer or whatever right now.
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