airdvr 210 #51 July 18, 2010 Quote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #52 July 18, 2010 Quote Quote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending. And what has been the effect of all the deficit spending that was perpetrated on America since 1980??? When your hero W left office the pile of voo DOO DOO economic failure was stacked up to 11 TRILLION+ with policies in place to drive it FAR HIGHER no matter what the current Administration did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #53 July 18, 2010 Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 July 18, 2010 Quote Please don't, I am afraid it would take all the forests in this country several times over to make enough napkins to clean up all the Voo Doo DOO that the people you have voted for have left behind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #55 July 18, 2010 QuoteQuote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending. Ahhh, can't make a point without this? Reagan-loving neo-cns have such a hard time with that, huh? See, the diff is that Reagan and GWB inherited from a stable economy to a wonderful economy yet felt the need to chop taxes and massivley deficit spend waaaaay too much and even with that massive revenue spending glut they still managed to have less receipts than they had spending. SO there goes your theory that throwing a lot of deficit-spent money can bring in + receipts. However there is a degree of truth to what you say, the success now has been as a result of deficit spending. Now, see if you can follow along: WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IF YOU WERE IN OBAAM'S POSITION? - NOTHING - DEFICIT SPEND - TAX - NSPEND - ???? Do try to follow along, I made it as simple and clear as I could. A non-answer is an acquiescence that Obama is doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #56 July 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending. And what has been the effect of all the deficit spending that was perpetrated on America since 1980??? When your hero W left office the pile of voo DOO DOO economic failure was stacked up to 11 TRILLION+ with policies in place to drive it FAR HIGHER no matter what the current Administration did. Right, he applauded Reagan's deficit spending, slams Obama's when on the verge of a total collapse. Yet no mention of the 700B GWB bank bailout or the 300B in bank bailout money returned AS A RESULT OF OBAMA'S TARP MONEY REQUIREMENTS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #57 July 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending. And what has been the effect of all the deficit spending that was perpetrated on America since 1980??? When your hero W left office the pile of voo DOO DOO economic failure was stacked up to 11 TRILLION+ with policies in place to drive it FAR HIGHER no matter what the current Administration did. Right, he applauded Reagan's deficit spending, slams Obama's when on the verge of a total collapse. Yet no mention of the 700B GWB bank bailout or the 300B in bank bailout money returned AS A RESULT OF OBAMA'S TARP MONEY REQUIREMENTS. I just want to know where all the republicans who actually practice fiscal responsibility went to.A whole lot of the current crop mouth the words... but like the rest of them for the last 30 years they say one thing and do something far different. Its kind of like all of them who mouth the words "family values" yet keep getting caught at gay bars, or with gay lovers, or molesting their children. It is indeed a different party from what once was the party of Lincoln. Its too bad these shit for brains can't actually vote for someone that will actually live up to those Republican talking points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #58 July 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So what would you do? Lucky, grab a napkin and wipe the spittle off your chin. You put up all of these examples of how much better we're doing and I simply stated that I would hope we would see some effect after that kind of spending. And what has been the effect of all the deficit spending that was perpetrated on America since 1980??? When your hero W left office the pile of voo DOO DOO economic failure was stacked up to 11 TRILLION+ with policies in place to drive it FAR HIGHER no matter what the current Administration did. Right, he applauded Reagan's deficit spending, slams Obama's when on the verge of a total collapse. Yet no mention of the 700B GWB bank bailout or the 300B in bank bailout money returned AS A RESULT OF OBAMA'S TARP MONEY REQUIREMENTS. I just want to know where all the republicans who actually practice fiscal responsibility went to.A whole lot of the current crop mouth the words... but like the rest of them for the last 30 years they say one thing and do something far different. Its kind of like all of them who mouth the words "family values" yet keep getting caught at gay bars, or with gay lovers, or molesting their children. It is indeed a different party from what once was the party of Lincoln. Its too bad these shit for brains can't actually vote for someone that will actually live up to those Republican talking points. Sure, the changing of the gaurd occurred in the 1920's, the last real awesome president of that era was Teddy R. Wilson was ok, a bit of a moralist, but a sign of the emerging Dems. Then the trio that forever chaged the world, the corrupt Harding / Coolidge / Hoover trio illustrated the Lincoln Repubs were dead and burried. A bright spot was Eisenhower who kept taxes high under a Dem congress, the debt actually fell, despite what crusty McSame says he got us out of Korea, and he helped transition us to a peacetime economy. He also warned us of teh M.I.C. and appointed Warren as Chief Justice. He was a throwback, a reminder of what a great party teh R's were at one point. Under LBJ he was, in some ways a throwback to the fucked up Dems, but with the 1964 Civil Rts Act he showed he had emerged as the diff between the old Dems and the new Dems. Then we had garbage from the right from there forward with the exception of GHWB who was slightly and apologetically better. Given the garbage he came from, he did little but it was a lot by contrast, so I give him credit. He should have raised taxes more, but he was being a politician and didn't want to rock the boat too much. His own party was too stupid to really get him, in fact, his deeds didn't really come throught as noble until Clinton had such success furthering his policies. GHWB is a president that I feel will be helped by history, GWB and the fascist pig only have down to go from here as the debt becomes more and more an issue and people can reference a simple chart such as this: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html 1/2 way down, the red and blue charts really bring it home, esp the blue chart corrected for inflation. All the timeline transference in the world can't adjust for the obvious: Republicans just can't say no, yet carry this stigma of the real fiscally responsible ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites