Professor fights for right to sex with coeds

[JohnRich 4]

Barry Dank is a university professor at Cal State and an unapologetic champion of the idea that it's okay for professors to have sex with their students.

"This is simply another attack against men, who they see as being powerful." he says.

Dank is a university professor who has been gathering support for his cause by creating a group called Consenting Academics for Sexual Equity.

[DanG 1]

How hot are their students?

- Dan G

[AndyBoyd 0]

According to the info I turned up on a quick internet seach on this guy, he has been retired for some time. He wrote an article on this issue in 1998. The University where he taught still hosts his website, but it does not appear to have been updated for years.

http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/07/strange-doings-at-the-beach-csulb-kevin-macdonald-and-barry-dank/

Why are you bringing this up now?

BTW, I think it is a bad idea for college professors to have sex with their students. Although, from the point of view of the professor, it cetainly sounds like fun.

[Amazon 7]

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According to the info I turned up on a quick internet seach on this guy, he has been retired for some time. He wrote an article on this issue in 1998. The University where he taught still hosts his website, but it does not appear to have been updated for years.

http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/07/strange-doings-at-the-beach-csulb-kevin-macdonald-and-barry-dank/

Why are you bringing this up now?

BTW, I think it is a bad idea for college professors to have sex with their students. Although, from the point of view of the professor, it cetainly sounds like fun.

DUH

Because someone that someone loathes posted something...

[airdvr 210]

Wait a minute...he's a Professor of Sociology at Cal State. Everyone knows Cal State is a hotbed of liberal thinking. I'll just bet he's a liberal. And if he's a liberal college prof I'll just bet all college profs are banging their.....

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[AndyBoyd 0]

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According to the info I turned up on a quick internet seach on this guy, he has been retired for some time. He wrote an article on this issue in 1998. The University where he taught still hosts his website, but it does not appear to have been updated for years.

http://hugoschwyzer.net/2007/05/07/strange-doings-at-the-beach-csulb-kevin-macdonald-and-barry-dank/

Why are you bringing this up now?

BTW, I think it is a bad idea for college professors to have sex with their students. Although, from the point of view of the professor, it cetainly sounds like fun.

DUH

Because someone that someone loathes posted something...

Yep, just figured that out from another thread. It's a cheap shot at Kallend. I should have known.

[kallend 2,184]

There are nutters in all walks of life.

Some people even think they should have guns.

Any unbalance of power in a sexual relationship, whether teacher/student, boss/employee (usually a secretary), cop/woman motorist, Senator/page, etc. is a likely breach of ethics and possibly illegal.

I wonder how many bosses have affairs with their secretaries.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[christelsabine 1]

What a low level attack. Is that your new kind of *weapon*?

You should stick with your usual gun threads.

Miserable.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[kelpdiver 2]

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Wait a minute...he's a Professor of Sociology at Cal State. Everyone knows Cal State is a hotbed of liberal thinking.

There are 23 separate schools in the CSU system. They can't all be hotbeds...most are politically neutral, in fact.

The line should be that students not taking the professor's class are fair game.

[kallend 2,184]

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Wait a minute...he's a Professor of Sociology at Cal State. Everyone knows Cal State is a hotbed of liberal thinking.

There are 23 separate schools in the CSU system. They can't all be hotbeds...most are politically neutral, in fact.

The line should be that students not taking the professor's class are fair game.

Disagree. The student should not be in a program in which the professor has any influence. Certainly in a different department.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[jgoose71 0]

Professors have been having sex with there students for years. I've seen "Animal House"

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[kallend 2,184]

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What a low level attack. Is that your new kind of *weapon*?

You should stick with your usual gun threads.

Miserable.

Not only low class and miserable, but the poll is extraordinarily poorly worded even for one of JR's.

If professors SHOULD have sex with their students they would have to be bisexual and have lots of stamina, as well as being very quick. I taught well over 200 students in my classes last year, of both genders, and not all of them were "hot". I think a mandate to have sex with them would be a big problem.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Ion01 2]

Its quite simple actually. Both parties are adults for starters. Secondly, if the professors work is uneffected then the employer cannot do anything against the employee for what is done outside of work. Lastly, I think it is morally wrong but the government is not established to regulate morality and cannot. In regulating morality it keeps immoral people employeed and invovled in the world.

The simple answer: The government shouldn't ge involved and if a school doesn't punish its professors when thier work is effected by such things then people would go elsewhere where the professors have self control and there are no professors running around having sex with students for whatever reason. In turn the first school either goes out of business or it has to change its policies in punish/fire the offending professors creating a truely moral environment.

When things like this are regulated then the immoral keep it a secret and people still take their money to them because they feel no sense of responsibility because they don't have to think about where they are going with thier money.....the government is taking care of things for me.......and we all know the government is composed of only trustworthy and morally upright people......

Put the power back in the peoples hands by leaving government out and letting people make thier own decisions. If that means having sex with whomever for whatever reason then the people can chose whether or not to punish them by going else where or not.

[Ion01 2]

And for those who think that without government immorality would be rampant and unstoppable.....I, unlike you, think the vast majority of people are good and will therefore have control and be able to expell those that are bad from society. But thats the catch, you have to trust other people...........

[skyrider 0]

Obviously a conflict of interest situation...If she is not "His" student, then no problem!

[Shotgun 1]

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Lastly, I think it is morally wrong but the government is not established to regulate morality and cannot.

Is this a government thing or a school policy thing?

[billvon 3,132]

> Lastly, I think it is morally wrong but the government is not established
>to regulate morality . . .

It is indeed. It is the government's role to enforce some very basic rules of morality - no murder, no theft, no fraud etc. As to the more vague levels of morality (i.e. be nice to your neighbors) I agree - that should be left to neighbors.

[quade 4]

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Lastly, I think it is morally wrong but the government is not established to regulate morality and cannot.

Is this a government thing or a school policy thing?

A bit of both.

There is a Federal law about sexual harrasment;
http://www.dol.gov/oasam/regs/statutes/titleix.htm

California has a law that is similar law specifically aimed at grades 12 and under;
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/edc/221.5-231.5.html

Many schools as well as companies have rules against people in positions of authority having sexual relations with those under their responsibility.

It's also just a general ethics things, although that's clearly not a legal issue.

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[skyrider 0]

Any Prof so stupid as to have sex with a student is setting himself/herself (Thi scan go both ways remember) up for a BS lawsuit...

That student would litterally own them, and their carreer

[quade 4]

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Any Prof so stupid as to have sex with a student is setting himself/herself (Thi scan go both ways remember) up for a BS lawsuit...
That student would litterally own them, and their carreer

Yes. That should be obvious.

What's not entirely obvious though is just being an instructor of any sort sets you up for horrible lawsuits anyway. People are just too happy to files lawsuit claims for the most ridiculous reasons. Introducing sex into the equation seems like playing with fire . . . and gasoline . . . near a fireworks stand.

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[JohnRich 4]

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It's a cheap shot at Kallend.

Where did I claim this was about kallend? That seems to be your and christelsabine's leap of logic, not mine.

It's interesting that you didn't make the same "cheap shot" comment in defense of the Tea Party in response to kallend's implied connection with racists.

I guess whether or not something is a "cheap shot", to some people, depends upon whether or not you agree with the person and/or organization. In other words, their judgment is hypocritically selective.

So when kallend put a racist and the Tea Party in the same message, that was just innocent coincidence to you guys, right?

[skyrider 0]

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Any Prof so stupid as to have sex with a student is setting himself/herself (Thi scan go both ways remember) up for a BS lawsuit...
That student would litterally own them, and their carreer

Yes. That should be obvious.

What's not entirely obvious though is just being an instructor of any sort sets you up for horrible lawsuits anyway. People are just too happy to files lawsuit claims for the most ridiculous reasons. Introducing sex into the equation seems like playing with fire . . . and gasoline . . . near a fireworks stand.

Yep, I don;t knwo how many times I saw jumpmaster's sleeping with students, (they become hero's in there eyes) I always felt they were not being tooo brighty! thaat could backfire on a person real fast!

[Shotgun 1]

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There is a Federal law about sexual harrasment;
http://www.dol.gov/oasam/regs/statutes/titleix.htm

California has a law that is similar law specifically aimed at grades 12 and under;
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/edc/221.5-231.5.html

I don't think either of these would apply if we're talking about a college student and professor who are both consenting adults. (Well, the sexual harrassment thing could apply if one of them decides to be a dick about it.)

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Many schools as well as companies have rules against people in positions of authority having sexual relations with those under their responsibility.

This is what I was thinking, that it's a school policy thing rather than the government legislating morality. I can understand that it might be in the school's best interest to try and prevent questionable situations from arising.

[quade 4]

The first one I linked very specifically applies to college professors and student relationships.

And the thing about "if one of them decides to be a dick about it" . . . that's just going to happen eventually so you might as well pay attention to the sexual harassment aspect of it from the very beginning and just not do it.

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[Remster 30]

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who are both consenting adults.

So if I tell my admin assistant that she has to have sex with me, or else lose her job, I'm good, right? I mean, we're both consenting adults...

How about if I tell her that her work load will be lighter?

Or how about that i would really appreciate it, hint hint?

Or that I say that she should be promoted because she is very good at what she does?

After all, we're both consenting adults...

Same thing for prof/students. Way too easy to abuse power. And yes, it is addressed in federal law.

Sorry Keely, but it's not just a case of consenting adults.

Remster