mnealtx 0 #26 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo, you have to have a CFP to register a gun. However, the CFP requires training, but the training can't be obtained in the city. I don't know enough about Chicago, but in Orange County, California as well as in Long Beach, California, there are fairly large police facilities for target practice and training that are also open to the public. Do you know for a fact that a person wouldn't be able to get training in a similar facility inside the city limits of Chicago? No, I don't - do you have proof that the Chicago PD is letting civilians use their ranges? QuoteHarvey police gun range to close; 50 departments affected June 23, 2010 6:05 PM | No Comments A Harvey Police Department shooting range where 25 weapons were stolen last month is set to close for good next week, despite a plea from the city to keep the range open. The park district has been leasing the land where the outdoor gun range is located, at 153rd Street and Campbell Avenue, to the city for $1 a year for more than a decade, park district commissioners said. More than 50 police departments use the shooting range for free to qualify their officers on assault weapons, Harvey spokeswoman Sandra Alvarado said. Harvey also has an agreement with Chicago, whose officers use the range once a week in exchange for training Harvey police cadets for free, Alvarado said. Before the May 8 gun range break-in, commissioners had safety concerns and voted against renewing the lease with the city, Park District President Keith Price said. The lease expires next week. Law enforcement agencies have used the shooting range since the early 1990s, Alvarado said. So, it looks like the Chicago PD are losing their range, as well.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 July 8, 2010 QuoteI think it's logical to assume that "home" includes all of the structures within the property borders. The idea a person becomes a violator by walking with the weapon from garage to his front door as argued by some is simply ridiculous. He's correct - from the definitions for the ordnance: "Home" means the inside of a person's dwelling unit which is traditionally used for living purposes, including the basement and attic. A "home" does not include: (i) any garage, including an attached garage, on the lot; (ii) any space outside the dwelling unit, including any stairs, porches, back, side or front yard space, or common areas; or (iii) any dormitory, hotel, or group living, as that term is defined in section 17-17-0102-A.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteI think it's logical to assume that "home" includes all of the structures within the property borders. The idea a person becomes a violator by walking with the weapon from garage to his front door as argued by some is simply ridiculous. He's correct - from the definitions for the ordnance: "Home" means the inside of a person's dwelling unit which is traditionally used for living purposes, including the basement and attic. A "home" does not include: (i) any garage, including an attached garage, on the lot; (ii) any space outside the dwelling unit, including any stairs, porches, back, side or front yard space, or common areas; or (iii) any dormitory, hotel, or group living, as that term is defined in section 17-17-0102-A. After reading the actual language of the law . . . yeah, ok, I'll give you guys this one then. It's stupid.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteCurrently those under 21 can't purchase handguns as a federal law, however, so they're already being screwed by the system. Serves me right for being an old fart and not paying attention to the age thing in general. Interesting . . . so between 18-20 a person in Chicago can own a "long gun" with parental permission according to this law but still not a hand gun. That's federal. An 18-20 year old can buy a shotgun or rifle, but not a handgun. Chicago *does*, as you note, add the requirement of a permission slip from Mommy and Daddy.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
