happythoughts 0 #51 July 5, 2010 Quote For instance, on can steal a pack of gum and it is a misdemeanor. Steal a second gum and becomes felony petty theft. Steal a third pack of gum... Ah... the California gum theft problem. Thank God someone is addressing this huge problem. Gum theft is destroying the fabric of society. 3 strikes Quote ...while others — most notably California — mandate the enhanced sentence for any third felony conviction so long as the first two felonies were deemed to be either "violent" or "serious," or both. So, I seriously doubt if gum theft will be regarded as serious or violent, no matter the number of times that it occurs. I don't think that it is a felony either, as is required. Your example was supposed to show how there could be draconian application of the law, but the example is invalid because it is defined not to apply to your example. Thus, you have shown that the law is not being applied in a petty manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #52 July 5, 2010 At least California is number 41 on the obesity chart. So, they've got that going for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 July 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhich Party has been in control of those states for decades?? Decades? ILLINOIS James R. Thompson January 10, 1977 January 14, 1991 Republican Jim Edgar January 14, 1991 January 11, 1999 Republican George H. Ryan January 11, 1999 January 13, 2003 Republican (Now in prison) Rush has long run off, nothing to see here. Hell I am still here You are too damned funny not to read Now reply to? Rarely waste the time anymore"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #54 July 6, 2010 Quote Quote For instance, on can steal a pack of gum and it is a misdemeanor. Steal a second gum and becomes felony petty theft. Steal a third pack of gum... Ah... the California gum theft problem. Thank God someone is addressing this huge problem. Gum theft is destroying the fabric of society. While it is Wikipedia, it explains pretty much what I just said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_petty_theft 3 strikes Quote ...while others — most notably California — mandate the enhanced sentence for any third felony conviction so long as the first two felonies were deemed to be either "violent" or "serious," or both. So, I seriously doubt if gum theft will be regarded as serious or violent, no matter the number of times that it occurs. I don't think that it is a felony either, as is required. Your example was supposed to show how there could be draconian application of the law, but the example is invalid because it is defined not to apply to your example. Thus, you have shown that the law is not being applied in a petty manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #55 July 9, 2010 QuoteSo, I seriously doubt if gum theft will be regarded as serious or violent, no matter the number of times that it occurs. I don't think that it is a felony either, as is required. You haven't dealt with many prosecutors, have you? Nothing gets a District Attorney off like going ape shit. There is actually very little discretion for a judge with mandatory sentencing guidelines. Steal gum? You bet. Steal a slice of pizza? Yeppers. The example is disgustingly valid. IT shocks the conscience how valid it is. Prop 66 a few years ago would have gotten rid of this petty theft with a prior rule. Too bad the correctional officers union didn't like it. You simply cannot believe that such a rule would exist or be enforced as it is. But it is enforced with alarming frequency. You don't want to believe it because it shocks the conscience. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
