Byrd's passing, Clintons lie and The Dems ugly double standard

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Clinton said "He once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means. He was a country boy from the hills and hollows from West Virginia. He was trying to get elected," former President Bill Clinton said of Sen. Robert Byrd."

You decide

http://www.google.com/search?q=byrd%27s+kkk+history&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=cjC&sa=G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=n&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=bZAuTOm6IIjenAfw7qD-Aw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=13&ved=0CEcQ5wIwDA

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"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." - Robert Byrd in letter to Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo in 1944.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[mnealtx 0]

Nothing to see here, move along... a racism charge is only valid if it is against a Republican.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rushmc 23]

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Nothing to see here, move along... a racism charge is only valid if it is against a Republican.

I know
If Clinton had not seen fit to try yet again to redefine history we would not be here now

Kind of like the twisting of the poem and meaning of the Statue of Liberty

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Kind of like the twisting of the poem and meaning of the Statue of Liberty

No, I disagree with that - the sentiment of the poem was correct for the times - people came to the states to become Americans.

Now, they come so they can be hyphenated-Americans.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rushmc 23]

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/liberty/lazarus.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/lazarus.cfm

Rom this link

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For almost one hundred years, the Statue of Liberty has welcomed immigrants from around the world. But when she was installed on Bedloe's island in New York harbor, that had not been her purpose. The citizens of France gave the statue to the citizens of the United States in commemoration of both countries' commitment to "Liberty." Emma Lazarus, New York born and bred, had other ideas. Naming her "Mother of Exiles," Lazarus wrote her poem to that majestic lady in validation of the thousands of immigrants streaming through our "golden door." The Statue of Liberty would welcome the "wretched refuse," the rejects of European society, to a country which would transform them into the dynamic, creative, productive, inventive American citizens they would become. This was Emma's vision, a vision that would be fulfilled.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

Bravo Rush, a nice bit of selective quoting.

You should read the rest of the article though. It talks about how Emma saw the plight of the people that had left their home countries and how hard they worked to fit in, yet where being persecuted by locals. She took upon herself to help them assimilate into the US by teaching them to, among other things, learn to speak and read English.

I'm just curious when the last time it was that you went out of your way to help people fit in rather than just complaining about it?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Bravo Rush, a nice bit of selective quoting.

You should read the rest of the article though. It talks about how Emma saw the plight of the people that had left their home countries and how hard they worked to fit in, yet where being persecuted by locals. She took upon herself to help them assimilate into the US by teaching them to, among other things, learn to speak and read English.

I'm just curious when the last time it was that you went out of your way to help people fit in rather than just complaining about it?

Is he misquoting, or are you just pissed because he didn't quote the part of the article YOU think is most important?

I'm curious when the last time it was that you went out of your way to try to understand someone else's viewpoint instead of just ridiculing them for it?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I'm curious when the last time it was that you went out of your way to try to understand someone else's viewpoint instead of just ridiculing them for it?

Try as I might on a daily basis, there are some people whom I will probably never understand.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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I'm curious when the last time it was that you went out of your way to try to understand someone else's viewpoint instead of just ridiculing them for it?

Try as I might on a daily basis, there are some people whom I will probably never understand.

and of course that can work two ways
I posted two links with some differing opinions

while not totally against or for your position it shows there is much more to it that the simplistic post you gave

Oh, and I doubt you try too hard. Your posts seem to indicate you think you got us all figured out already on a daily basis

On another note
Until yesterday I thought as you did
I heard a comment on the radio from a local host here in Iowa, wondered about it and went looking.

I found out my view had some errors in it and so I learned something


You find out your view had some errors in it and you get pissy with the one who posts about it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Lucky... 0]

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Clinton said "He once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means. He was a country boy from the hills and hollows from West Virginia. He was trying to get elected," former President Bill Clinton said of Sen. Robert Byrd."

You decide

http://www.google.com/search?q=byrd%27s+kkk+history&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=cjC&sa=G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=n&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=bZAuTOm6IIjenAfw7qD-Aw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=13&ved=0CEcQ5wIwDA

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"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." - Robert Byrd in letter to Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo in 1944.

Byrd grew up old school and was a Democratic racist when that was fashionable in the south. Then the 1964 Civil Rts Act came along and things started to change and now the Yellow Dogs became Republicans and they were centered in the south. I don't know when Byrd finally figured out that his racism was BS, but he did, just as Malcolm X realized his approach was radical and pathetic. So the fact that people have an idiotic perspective isn't the rub, it's when they are too ideological to wake up and smell the roses.

So the truth here is that morons who haven't figured it out yet are pissed at poeple like Byrd who have and who have changed. Do you honor a guy like Strom Thurmond who was one of those morons?

[rushmc 23]

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Clinton said "He once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means. He was a country boy from the hills and hollows from West Virginia. He was trying to get elected," former President Bill Clinton said of Sen. Robert Byrd."

You decide

http://www.google.com/search?q=byrd%27s+kkk+history&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=cjC&sa=G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=n&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=bZAuTOm6IIjenAfw7qD-Aw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=13&ved=0CEcQ5wIwDA

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"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." - Robert Byrd in letter to Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo in 1944.

Byrd grew up old school and was a Democratic racist when that was fashionable in the south. Then the 1964 Civil Rts Act came along and things started to change and now the Yellow Dogs became Republicans and they were centered in the south. I don't know when Byrd finally figured out that his racism was BS, but he did, just as Malcolm X realized his approach was radical and pathetic. So the fact that people have an idiotic perspective isn't the rub, it's when they are too ideological to wake up and smell the roses.

So the truth here is that morons who haven't figured it out yet are pissed at poeple like Byrd who have and who have changed. Do you honor a guy like Strom Thurmond who was one of those morons?

You do provide entertainment here I will give you that

I never said I was pissed at Byrd or even indicated that

However, the Dems have to twist history to try and cover the ugly double standard of their hypocrisy by saying his involvement was nothing

Well, the time line and history shows he was a recruiter for a chapter HE WAS STARTING!!!! And then the letter to the other Senator is as damning as it gets. But it was just a passing thing to get elected. YA, RIGHT!!! Yet silence out of the Dems and your kind. He was a racists until 1983 or 4 until he thought of blacks as human when considering the death of his son. Saying that maybe blacks loved their children too
No doubt your lips would have been flapping had his name had an R behind it and you damned well know it

But but you just cant let it go can you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Lucky... 0]

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I never said I was pissed at Byrd or even indicated that

Never did I say you were pissed, quit making shit up.

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However, the Dems have to twist history to try and cover the ugly double standard of their hypocrisy by saying his involvement was nothing

Who twisted history? I merely showed how Byrd was an old-school racist changed to a modern, progressive Dem. Show me the twist. Dude, you really have use the word, "twist" when it applies rather than ev ery time you run out of things to say.

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Well, the time line and history shows he was a recruiter for a chapter HE WAS STARTING!!!! And then the letter to the other Senator is as damning as it gets. But it was just a passing thing to get elected. YA, RIGHT!!! Yet silence out of the Dems and your kind. He was a racists until 1983 or 4 until he thought of blacks as human when considering the death of his son. Saying that maybe blacks loved their children too

No doubt he was a racist pig; you keep arguing a moot point - nuts. He hasn't been that way for decades.

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No doubt your lips would have been flapping had his name had an R behind it and you damned well know it

Had he changed, esp decades ago, I wouldn't consider him bad/evil, regardless of his party affiliation.

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But but you just cant let it go can you

What am I not letting go?

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I never said I was pissed at Byrd or even indicated that

Never did I say you were pissed, quit making shit up.

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However, the Dems have to twist history to try and cover the ugly double standard of their hypocrisy by saying his involvement was nothing

Who twisted history? I merely showed how Byrd was an old-school racist changed to a modern, progressive Dem. Show me the twist. Dude, you really have use the word, "twist" when it applies rather than ev ery time you run out of things to say.

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Well, the time line and history shows he was a recruiter for a chapter HE WAS STARTING!!!! And then the letter to the other Senator is as damning as it gets. But it was just a passing thing to get elected. YA, RIGHT!!! Yet silence out of the Dems and your kind. He was a racists until 1983 or 4 until he thought of blacks as human when considering the death of his son. Saying that maybe blacks loved their children too

No doubt he was a racist pig; you keep arguing a moot point - nuts. He hasn't been that way for decades.

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No doubt your lips would have been flapping had his name had an R behind it and you damned well know it

Had he changed, esp decades ago, I wouldn't consider him bad/evil, regardless of his party affiliation.

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But but you just cant let it go can you

What am I not letting go?

You dont get it
It anint about Byrd dude

It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosporous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

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Now, they come so they can be hyphenated-Americans.

There is some truth.

Dom

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I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosporous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

Uh, the nation still means something on the world stage. And it suffered many attacks during his time. So I doubt that is the reason some don't like the guy.

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It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosporous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

DUUUUDE he was getting blow jobs..... those on the right who decry those sorts of things publicly.. were letting their private jealousies run rampant that someone else was actually gettin some.

[rushmc 23]

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It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosperous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

Got nothing to do with Clinton. Certainly no hatred. But one has to wonder why he felt the need to try and re-write history about Byrd???
Got any ideas?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosporous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

DUUUUDE he was getting blow jobs..... those on the right who decry those sorts of things publicly.. were letting their private jealousies run rampant that someone else was actually gettin some.

You sure post a lot about cocks in mouths

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

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It is about the lieing dick heads like Clinton (in this case) their need to re-write history (why)

and the two faced duplicity of those same dick heads

I don't get the hatred towards Clinton. Is it because your country was prosporous and meant something on the world stage during his presidency?

DUUUUDE he was getting blow jobs..... those on the right who decry those sorts of things publicly.. were letting their private jealousies run rampant that someone else was actually gettin some.

You sure post a lot about cocks in mouths

Sure seems to be what most guys are thinking about a hell of a lot of the time.... although all those "family values" guys in the RED states dont seem to be having that happen too much.. to their utter chagrin


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, hence all the angst and ager towards the guys that do from the fringe right.

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Sure seems to be what most guys are thinking about a hell of a lot of the time.... although all those "family values" guys in the RED states dont seem to be having that happen too much.. to their utter chagrin


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, hence all the angst and ager towards the guys that do from the fringe right.

As I keep having to tell Lucky - it's your fantasy world, live it like you want it.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Sure seems to be what most guys are thinking about a hell of a lot of the time.... although all those "family values" guys in the RED states dont seem to be having that happen too much.. to their utter chagrin


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, hence all the angst and ager towards the guys that do from the fringe right.

As I keep having to tell Lucky - it's your fantasy world, live it like you want it.

OK riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

BUT.. from a lifetime of observation..... its been my experience that conservative men are the least imaginitive when it comes to any kind of sex. I suppose if its your experience with men you have had relations with is different

[mnealtx 0]

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Sure seems to be what most guys are thinking about a hell of a lot of the time.... although all those "family values" guys in the RED states dont seem to be having that happen too much.. to their utter chagrin


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, hence all the angst and ager towards the guys that do from the fringe right.

As I keep having to tell Lucky - it's your fantasy world, live it like you want it.

OK riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

BUT.. from a lifetime of observation..... its been my experience that conservative men are the least imaginitive when it comes to any kind of sex. I suppose if its your experience with men you have had relations with is different

Nice PA.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Amazon 7]

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Sure seems to be what most guys are thinking about a hell of a lot of the time.... although all those "family values" guys in the RED states dont seem to be having that happen too much.. to their utter chagrin


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, hence all the angst and ager towards the guys that do from the fringe right.

As I keep having to tell Lucky - it's your fantasy world, live it like you want it.

OK riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

BUT.. from a lifetime of observation..... its been my experience that conservative men are the least imaginitive when it comes to any kind of sex. I suppose if its your experience with men you have had relations with is different

Nice PA.

OMG I thought all this was just a fantasy for everyone

Just trying to get to the "bottom" of things in respect to experience