kelpdiver 2 #26 June 30, 2010 Quote Why are so many "hung up" on the 911 call? even if "he" was a cronic caller, Does an 80 yearold woman that had nothing to do with it deserve to be Tazed? It's nothing about deserved to be tazed. It's the question of wtf can the paramedics do in this circumstance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #27 June 30, 2010 QuoteQuote Why are so many "hung up" on the 911 call? even if "he" was a cronic caller, Does an 80 yearold woman that had nothing to do with it deserve to be Tazed? It's nothing about deserved to be tazed. It's the question of wtf can the paramedics do in this circumstance? Obvious. Whatever the problem, they are better able to handle it than the grandson. Lesson learned here. When you call 911 for a paramedic you may just get idiot cops instead. Threatened them with a knife? LOL I can see it now.... "Come over here to the bed sonny boy so I can cut you."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #28 June 30, 2010 In california, You get cops first, then they make the call on what is needed! Stupid rule, precious time is wasted waiting on cops to triogg!(sp?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #29 June 30, 2010 QuoteIn california, You get cops first, then they make the call on what is needed! Stupid rule, precious time is wasted waiting on cops to triogg!(sp?) triage. I agree, it's stupid."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #30 July 1, 2010 News: Tasered Granny Sues Town http://www.newser.com/story/94203/tasered-granny-sues-town.html Includes "the rest of the story"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 July 1, 2010 Quote News: Tasered Granny Sues Town http://www.newser.com/story/94203/tasered-granny-sues-town.html Includes "the rest of the story"... There are better ways to treat and handle an 87 year old woman by a whole group of young men in blue who are supposedly paid to PROTECT AND SERVE I guess using their brains to work out a problem is out of the question... OH thats right..... I forgot where this was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #32 July 1, 2010 QuoteHowever, police told the El Reno Tribune in January that the woman had threatened to kill herself and threatened officers with a knife. Willing to bet this is the only part of this story that isn't complete bullshit. What should a cop do with someone who has a knife and is threatening to kill themselves? They actually did the crazy old bat a favor.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote However, police told the El Reno Tribune in January that the woman had threatened to kill herself and threatened officers with a knife. Willing to bet this is the only part of this story that isn't complete bullshit. DUDE.. she is 87 and bedridden.... at some point you have to use the brain... these guys were a bunch of perineums... period. It seems there is a lot of perineumism going on it law enforcement these days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #34 July 1, 2010 Quoteat some point you have to use the brain... You keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #35 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote at some point you have to use the brain... You keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. JESUS fucking christ.. no wonder you guys down there in the Twilight Zone need all those guns to protect you.... all those bed ridden little old ladies out to get you guys How about talking to her like a human being... instead of tasing someone who is 87 years old that you have a high likelyhood of killing by stopping their heart. Karma..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #36 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote at some point you have to use the brain... You keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. JESUS fucking christ.. no wonder you guys down there in the Twilight Zone need all those guns to protect you.... all those bed ridden little old ladies out to get you guys How about talking to her like a human being... instead of tasing someone who is 87 years old that you have a high likelyhood of killing by stopping their heart. Karma..... And you know they didn't try talking how? In your mind they saw the knife and just pulled the taser and let fly. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the way it happened, but you're so quick to judge the cops in a bad light you can't help yourself.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote at some point you have to use the brain... You keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. JESUS fucking christ.. no wonder you guys down there in the Twilight Zone need all those guns to protect you.... all those bed ridden little old ladies out to get you guys How about talking to her like a human being... instead of tasing someone who is 87 years old that you have a high likelyhood of killing by stopping their heart. Karma..... And you know they didn't try talking how? Because the fucking morons used a taser on an elderly woman in bed. Some cultures tend to treat their elders better. In this country I guess that is just another FAIL... I would have thought in an area that purports to have "family values" that respect for elders would be one of those "family Values". I guess not huh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #38 July 1, 2010 QuoteNews: Tasered Granny Sues Town http://www.newser.com/story/94203/tasered-granny-sues-town.html Includes "the rest of the story"... Well, it's a much better justification for calling 911 then "I need help giving her meds." Given the risk of killing her with the electric shock, doing nothing seems like the better action. Let her kill herself if she wants; she's lived a long enough life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #39 July 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteNews: Tasered Granny Sues Town http://www.newser.com/story/94203/tasered-granny-sues-town.html Includes "the rest of the story"... Well, it's a much better justification for calling 911 then "I need help giving her meds." Given the risk of killing her with the electric shock, doing nothing seems like the better action. Let her kill herself if she wants; she's lived a long enough life. Funny. Imagine the lawsuit from that one. 'Cops Stand by While Granny Filets Herself'Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #40 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote at some point you have to use the brain... You keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. JESUS fucking christ.. no wonder you guys down there in the Twilight Zone need all those guns to protect you.... all those bed ridden little old ladies out to get you guys How about talking to her like a human being... instead of tasing someone who is 87 years old that you have a high likelyhood of killing by stopping their heart. Karma..... And you know they didn't try talking how? Because the fucking morons used a taser on an elderly woman in bed. Some cultures tend to treat their elders better. In this country I guess that is just another FAIL... I would have thought in an area that purports to have "family values" that respect for elders would be one of those "family Values". I guess not huh Why do you beleive a story in a newspaper as gospel?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #41 July 1, 2010 Hey-If I had to "control" or "pacify" you, even if you were 86 I wouldn't risk a taser, I'd gas you from outside the room with an indirect lob to stay clear of your field of fire You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 July 1, 2010 Quote Hey-If I had to "control" or "pacify" you, even if you were 86 I wouldn't risk a taser, I'd gas you from outside the room with an indirect lob to stay clear of your field of fire Hey that is what chem masks are for.... and do you REALLLLLLY think you could get in range in the first place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 July 1, 2010 Because this kind of crap keeps happening over and over and over across the country.. its a mindest far too many LEO's afflicted with perineumism are going with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #44 July 1, 2010 QuoteYou keep saying that, but you're avoiding providing any specific alternative actions. How should the police have disarmed the woman who pulled a knife out from under her pillow and threatened to kill them if they tried to take it from her? Why should the police have to risk their own lives to save her, when a tazer does the job of disarming her without risk of life? If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. John: You're normally a proponent of people's civil liberties in the face of government interference: She was in her own bed, in her own home and the police used potentially lethal force to disarm her. Doesn't that sound like something you'd normally be against?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #45 July 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteJohn: You're normally a proponent of people's civil liberties in the face of government interference: She was in her own bed, in her own home and the police used potentially lethal force to disarm her. Doesn't that sound like something you'd normally be against? The police were there legitimately at the request of her son. Mom then threatened to kill the police with a knife. What do you want the police to do at that point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #46 July 1, 2010 QuoteWhat do you want the police to do at that point? It's pretty simple - take another 80-something cop on meds, put them in a bed and give them only a knife - then it's an equal battle that, or give granny her own taser so it's a fair fight ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #47 July 1, 2010 >If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. Easy. The woman (or her son) should have drawn a gun and killed the cops, thus protecting herself and her family from attack. "Granny with a gun" is indeed a favorite amongst gun rights advocates precisely for this reason - turning a helpless woman into someone capable of defending herself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #48 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote John: You're normally a proponent of people's civil liberties in the face of government interference: She was in her own bed, in her own home and the police used potentially lethal force to disarm her. Doesn't that sound like something you'd normally be against? The police were there legitimately at the request of her son. Mom then threatened to kill the police with a knife. What do you want the police to do at that point? Your question is serious???? Oh mama, I'm on my knees dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #49 July 1, 2010 Quote>If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. Easy. The woman (or her son) should have drawn a gun and killed the cops, thus protecting herself and her family from attack. "Granny with a gun" is indeed a favorite amongst gun rights advocates precisely for this reason - turning a helpless woman into someone capable of defending herself. You are really losing it, with the posts you've been making lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #50 July 1, 2010 QuoteThe police were there legitimately at the request of her son. Mom then threatened to kill the police with a knife. What do you want the police to do at that point? Your question is serious???? Oh mama, I'm on my knees [laugh Another critic, without an alternative plan of action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #46 July 1, 2010 QuoteWhat do you want the police to do at that point? It's pretty simple - take another 80-something cop on meds, put them in a bed and give them only a knife - then it's an equal battle that, or give granny her own taser so it's a fair fight ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #47 July 1, 2010 >If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. Easy. The woman (or her son) should have drawn a gun and killed the cops, thus protecting herself and her family from attack. "Granny with a gun" is indeed a favorite amongst gun rights advocates precisely for this reason - turning a helpless woman into someone capable of defending herself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #48 July 1, 2010 Quote Quote Quote John: You're normally a proponent of people's civil liberties in the face of government interference: She was in her own bed, in her own home and the police used potentially lethal force to disarm her. Doesn't that sound like something you'd normally be against? The police were there legitimately at the request of her son. Mom then threatened to kill the police with a knife. What do you want the police to do at that point? Your question is serious???? Oh mama, I'm on my knees dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #49 July 1, 2010 Quote>If you have some better alternative to offer, then let's hear it. Something specific. Easy. The woman (or her son) should have drawn a gun and killed the cops, thus protecting herself and her family from attack. "Granny with a gun" is indeed a favorite amongst gun rights advocates precisely for this reason - turning a helpless woman into someone capable of defending herself. You are really losing it, with the posts you've been making lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #50 July 1, 2010 QuoteThe police were there legitimately at the request of her son. Mom then threatened to kill the police with a knife. What do you want the police to do at that point? Your question is serious???? Oh mama, I'm on my knees [laugh Another critic, without an alternative plan of action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
