Hey Toronto peeps...

[billvon 3,133]

>Bill are the Tea Party protesters resorting to violence?

Nope, was more commenting on your opinion that protests are futile and represent lazy people who want the government to take care of them.

Now, in the 1960's, the protests WERE quite violent. In Alabama, a police force used dogs and fire hoses to disperse a black protest in Birmingham. In 1965, police used whips, tear gas and batons to stop a civil rights march in Montgomery. Fifty were hospitalized.

All those incidents were reported by the Southern press as "blacks rioting; police quell violence." Turns out to not quite be 100% true.

In the end, their protests led to civil rights legislation that makes the US a better place. So yes, even violent protests can achieve good results.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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And.....I know this is hard to believe for you....not all the protestors that were in Toronto resorted to violence.

Of course not every protester was violent. But the fact remains that what started off as a perceived peaceful protest turned violent and the peaceful protesters did nothing to stop this violence. The police could not possibly be in every corner of the city. Their mandate was to keep the protesters away from the world leaders and they succeeded in that regard.

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I do want to thank you for your tax money though, it made the little town close to my cottage a little prettier

Don't thank me, I had nothing to do with it. Thank the politicians (from all parties) who continue to try and buy votes with infrastructure spending (whether or not they succeed with your vote is irrelevant).

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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But the fact remains that what started off as a perceived peaceful protest turned violent and the peaceful protesters did nothing to stop this violence.

They certainly didn't stop all violence, that is evident. But how exactly do you know they didn't stop some of it?

[CanuckInUSA 0]

The vast majority of peaceful protesters were employed people (blue and white collar) with families to take care of. The vast majority of violent thugs were unemployed youth from the underground economy and some (of course not all) university students.

While CSIS is off watching radical Islam and how some of our politicians are being paid off by the Chinese in this country, I would also hope CSIS is monitoring what is going on in some of the University classrooms across this country. I give two thumbs up to the University educated scientists, engineers, medical students and future business leaders. But we really need to keep a closer eye to what some of the social studies professors are doing with their indoctrinations.

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[turtlespeed 226]

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>You people in Toronto could have easily proven the Feds wrong
>for spending all that money on security by NOT PROTESTING.

Exactly. If you have a problem with your government, the best option is to stay inside and watch TV; that's what a real activist would do. Free speech, public protests and demonstrations are overrated.

So you prefer the violence, looting, blood, broken windows and property damage?

Here's a thought . . . How about they put together a PEACEFUL protest and prove the government wrong. The way the protesters handled it 100% justified the presence of the police force there. It was the very people that live there that justified the money be spent. I can think of several ways to waste that much money on much more worthwhile things. All they ended up doing was hurting thier own economy.

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[pbwing 0]

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The vast majority of violent thugs were unemployed youth from the underground economy and some (of course not all) university students.

While CSIS is off watching radical Islam and how some of our politicians are being paid off by the Chinese in this country, I would also hope CSIS is monitoring what is going on in some of the University classrooms across this country. I give two thumbs up to the University educated scientists, engineers, medical students and future business leaders. But we really need to keep a closer eye to what some of the social studies professors are doing with their indoctrinations.

I'd be interested in seeing where you read that the vast majority of the violent protestors were unemployed youth.

The reason I say that was that of the 3 people that they arresting in the firebombing of the bank in Ottawa, 2 of them were professionals (one was retired, the other was an ENGINEER (two thumbs up still??))

[CanuckInUSA 0]

LOL ... are you sure you want to be talking about the three people recently arrested for fire bombing a bank after posting a video of their crime on YouTube? This is hardly a good example of the myth of the "superior intellect Liberals proclaim they have over everyone else". What didn't they stop to think anything posted on YouTube could NOT be traced back to them? We leave all sorts of finger prints whenever we engage in the 'net.

Sure let's talk about the three people recently arrested for fire bombing a bank in Ottawa.

Yeah two are in their 50s and one in their 30s (you would think they would know better). But I guess when one hates Capitalism so much, one is not afraid to engage in violent acts no matter what their age is (so much for the myth that the Left are peace loving tolerant people). Also, one of the three is a retired civil servant (amazing how one can be retired at age 50 sucking on a public pension). I didn't know the public sector had it so well that they could be retired at age 50 free to engage in criminal activities paid for by the tax payer. I sure hope they take his pension away from this retired civil servant. But you know this won't happen since LIEberals feel that people who commit armed robbery, arson and auto theft should not spend time in jail and instead should only be placed under house arrest. Finally, two of three recently attended a course at the University of Ottawa on how to be politically active. Since when was arson an accepted form of peaceful protests? Once again WTF is going on in these social studies classes at the University of Ottawa (a school run by former LIEberal MP Alan Rock architect of the failed 2+ billion dollar Gun Registry).

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I'm back at work downtown. From my window, I can see the intersection where the police cars were burning. Things are remarkably back to normal as the real heroes, everyday hardworking taxpaying Canadians, do their daily grind to support their families and the country.

I've made it a point to thank the police who have remained to patrol the area. They had a very tough job this weekend and were remarkably restrained. The cops I've spoken to are very appreciative of the tremendous support they have received from the public - and they tell me that a lot of people have come to thank them.

As for the whiners who are "appalled" at the "human rights violations" because they didn't like their cheese sandwich, or because the jail floor was too cold - get a life. As another poster said, that's why it's called "jail". If tha majority of you had just stepped back when the police asked rather than confront their authority, you wouldn't have been arrested in the first place.

As for the legitamate protesters - I'm sorry your message was drowned out by the violence from some of your peers. Maybe it would've helped if you had helped the police identify the troublemakers. But I have to ask what you were protesting - the message was so jumbled it came off as white noise. The sky is too blue, or not blue enough, or was it Free the Dandelions? It was just a blur. All I see now is the damage on the street below. Sorry, but that is now your legacy.

Here is an excellent post from a person with the moniker "Spiff00".
It was posted at 2:22 pm ET on the CBC website.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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this won't happen since LIEberals feel

I have to laugh every time you type this....

Have you looked at your screen name? Do you realize it is a lie?

[pbwing 0]

Actually, they didn't post it to Youtube, it was a local site and then it got linked to from there.

Secondly, they weren't caught because they posted the video. Police had 2 of the 3 pegged as being involved before the video was posted.

Finally, the reason I posted that is because you insisted that the people responsible for the violent protest were unemployed, students or living off the underground economy. You can't prove that. Not even remotely. When they list the professions of each one arrested, then you can make that claim.

I was pointing out that 2/3rds of those who have been charged in a similiar act of 'activism' were none of those things you mentioned.

In fact, one of them was part of the very group that you gave 'two thumbs up' to. Kinda wrecks your point, doesn't it...

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Have you looked at your screen name? Do you realize it is a lie?

In retrospective the choice of my moniker was less than ideal. It was kept because people know me here by this name. I guess I could go create a whole new account just to satisfy you. How's this for possible new monikers:

- TorontoSucksAss
- WhoCaresWhatSkyDekkerThinks

Come to think of it, both those names are huge improvements. Maybe I will create a new account just to keep you happy.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

hey, its just funny to watch a guy whose name is a lie try and use it as an insult.

Like when those family value guys try and find a guy to suck their dick in an airport washroom.

I like those other two names...pretty catchy.