Gawain 0 #1 June 27, 2010 How you doin' up there? http://www.nationalpost.com/multimedia/photos/gallery/index.html?id=3201093So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2 June 27, 2010 Ya know, I can understand the rage against Starbucks (pic20), but Timmy's?? WTF??(pic21). And who in the hell (or maybe what in the hell) is that in pics 24-26?? I bet the cops were pissed that their doughnuts got taken "There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 June 27, 2010 Contrary to what some people think, the police showed huge restraint yesterday. Part of the reason why so much destruction occurred was because the police knew they would be roasted by the media if they started busting the heads of these moronic rioters. We shall see what happens today. It is a new day. Some of the rioters were from the USA. I am sure some were from Europe. Many of the rioters were from Quebec. But I am sorry Toronto, you have your own home grown rioters who are trashing your own city. Why? Do you hate business that much Toronto? Do you hate jobs that much? Is your desire for communism that strong Toronto? I know silly question. We know the Universities are breeding grounds for the marxist movement and look who was rioting yesterday. It wasn't the the working people with families who were rioting. It was the young welfare collecting anarchists, the young underground economy zipperheads and the university students who decided to trash the city. No doubt the Leftist / Marxist element of the DorkZone will lay into this post. But the reality is ... people with jobs (blue and white collar) were not the violent ones yesterday trashing the city. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 June 27, 2010 QuoteContrary to what some people think, the police showed huge restraint yesterday. Part of the reason why so much destruction occurred was because the police knew they would be roasted by the media if they started busting the heads of these moronic rioters. We shall see what happens today. It is a new day. Some of the rioters were from the USA. I am sure some were from Europe. Many of the rioters were from Quebec. But I am sorry Toronto, you have your own home grown rioters who are trashing your own city. Why? Do you hate business that much Toronto? Do you hate jobs that much? Is your desire for communism that strong Toronto? I know silly question. We know the Universities are breeding grounds for the marxist movement and look who was rioting yesterday. It wasn't the the working people with families who were rioting. It was the young welfare collecting anarchists, the young underground economy zipperheads and the university students who decided to trash the city. No doubt the Leftist / Marxist element of the DorkZone will lay into this post. But the reality is ... people with jobs (blue and white collar) were not the violent ones yesterday trashing the city. As much as I am anti police...I agree! They pulled that shit here, and the streets woudl be littered with dead protesters! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #5 June 28, 2010 QuoteContrary to what some people think, the police showed huge restraint yesterday. Part of the reason why so much destruction occurred was because the police knew they would be roasted by the media if they started busting the heads of these moronic rioters. We shall see what happens today. It is a new day. Some of the rioters were from the USA. I am sure some were from Europe. Many of the rioters were from Quebec. But I am sorry Toronto, you have your own home grown rioters who are trashing your own city. Why? Do you hate business that much Toronto? Do you hate jobs that much? Is your desire for communism that strong Toronto? I know silly question. We know the Universities are breeding grounds for the marxist movement and look who was rioting yesterday. It wasn't the the working people with families who were rioting. It was the young welfare collecting anarchists, the young underground economy zipperheads and the university students who decided to trash the city. No doubt the Leftist / Marxist element of the DorkZone will lay into this post. But the reality is ... people with jobs (blue and white collar) were not the violent ones yesterday trashing the city. Well said.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #6 June 28, 2010 An Interesting way to spend $1.4 Billion....yes with a B, on a couple of days. 10,000 cops and the chief had the balls to announce this morning he did not have enough resources...... Secret Laws to suspend civil rights and arrest for what people might do, or what they looked like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 June 28, 2010 You people in Toronto could have easily proven the Feds wrong for spending all that money on security by NOT PROTESTING. Then the Feds would have looked dumb if the only people on the streets were the cops. But instead, you with he help of your pals in Quebec trashed your own city, and for what? Where did all that rioting get you? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 June 28, 2010 You are absolutely right, it was all Torontonians and all Quebecers...including myself. Your little rant actually sounds like what some of those self proclaimed anatrchists would say. Full of venom and a completely distorted view of reality. By the way, don't understand why you have an issue with protesting. You don't like the freedom to express yourself? Or, do you have a problem with the violence, like pretty much everybody else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 June 28, 2010 QuoteYou are absolutely right, it was all Torontonians and all Quebecers...including myself. Your little rant actually sounds like what some of those self proclaimed anatrchists would say. Full of venom and a completely distorted view of reality. By the way, don't understand why you have an issue with protesting. You don't like the freedom to express yourself? Or, do you have a problem with the violence, like pretty much everybody else? I for one have a problem with the looting, stealing and damage caused by the people that live there. It makes them all seem like a bunch of hooligans and thugs. Is that the image you were going for?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 June 28, 2010 QuoteI for one have a problem with the looting, stealing and damage caused by the people that live there. Me too, but I also have an issue with the looting, stealing and damage caused by people who do not live here. When it comes to image, I am not overly worried, most Americans wouldn't be able to find Toronto on a map. And since there were no igloos in the pictures they probably think it wasn't even in Canada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 June 28, 2010 QuoteYou are absolutely right, it was all Torontonians and all Quebecers Pretty much. A few people from other areas joined in, but the vast majority of the rioters were Quebecers and Torontonians trashing their own city. QuoteYour little rant actually sounds like what some of those self proclaimed anatrchists would say. If you want people to understand you, you need to communicate in a language people besides yourself understand. What the heck is a "anatrchists"? Are you trying to imply some religious connotation here? Because if you are, you are barking up the wrong tree. QuoteBy the way, don't understand why you have an issue with protesting. You don't like the freedom to express yourself? Or, do you have a problem with the violence, like pretty much everybody else? Freedom of expression does NOT including getting violent and trashing other people's property. I am onside saying these meetings should not have been held in Toronto. But Toronto would have whined if they were held somewhere else since Toronto thinks they are the only city that matters in this country. Toronto whined when the Feds did not spend money, then they whined when the Feds did spend money and now they are back whining when the Feds say they must stop spending so much money. What is the common denominator in all of this? Torontonians are just a bunch of whiners. Who needs some cheese. Once again, where did all these riots get the people of Toronto? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwing 0 #12 June 28, 2010 Don't worry, he hates everyone west of Alberta and east of Alberta. It's kind of his shtick. EVERY single person in Toronto is either a Marxist, Leftist, Communist, pinko, etc....all 2.2 million of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 June 28, 2010 QuoteA few people from other areas joined in, but the vast majority of the rioters were Quebecers and Torontonians trashing their own city. Uhmm, you know the G20 wasn't originally planned for Toronto right? You know Toronto never asked for the G20, right? Thankfully I have been to Alberta and know you are not even close to representative of those who live there. Quebecers trashed their own city? Read the paper this morning, didn't see too much about riots in Quebec. Quote"anatrchists"? Anarchists....but I think you already knew that. QuoteFreedom of expression does NOT including getting violent and trashing other people's property. very good, so your issue isn't with protesting like you stated above. QuoteBut Toronto would have whined if they were held somewhere else since Toronto thinks they are the only city that matters in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #14 June 28, 2010 Quote Don't worry, he hates everyone west of Alberta and east of Alberta. It's kind of his shtick. EVERY single person in Toronto is either a Marxist, Leftist, Communist, pinko, etc....all 2.2 million of them. Your borders are all wrong. We need a new country alright. But the eastern part of the country would include Saskatchewan and the Western border goes all the way to the Pacific ocean. Except of course it does not include Vancouver. The Chinese already own that part of the world. But what I would give to divorce the people of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. Please help us make it happen. Please elect a LIEberal who will implement the NEP2. I don't think Ignatieff is the right LIEberal to do this though (as much as I dislike his elitist arrogance, he is smarter than that). But I think Boob Rae or Trudeau JR are just the right type of Leftists / Marxists to bring in the NEP2 that will finally force the West to say enough is enough. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #15 June 28, 2010 QuoteDon't worry, he hates everyone west of Alberta and east of Alberta. It's kind of his shtick. EVERY single person in Toronto is either a Marxist, Leftist, Communist, pinko, etc....all 2.2 million of them. He pretty much hates everybody in Canada, but the US doesn't want him and he doesn't have anywhere else to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,133 #16 June 28, 2010 >You people in Toronto could have easily proven the Feds wrong >for spending all that money on security by NOT PROTESTING. Exactly. If you have a problem with your government, the best option is to stay inside and watch TV; that's what a real activist would do. Free speech, public protests and demonstrations are overrated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #17 June 28, 2010 QuoteYour borders are all wrong. We need a new country alright. But the eastern part of the country would include Saskatchewan and the Western border goes all the way to the Pacific ocean. Except of course it does not include Vancouver. The Chinese already own that part of the world. But what I would give to divorce the people of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. Please help us make it happen. Please elect a LIEberal who will implement the NEP2. I don't think Ignatieff is the right LIEberal to do this though (as much as I dislike his elitist arrogance, he is smarter than that). But I think Boob Rae or Trudeau JR are just the right type of Leftists / Marxists to bring in the NEP2 that will finally force the West to say enough is enough. You may want to have a bit of a longer term view. Once the oil sands run out, there really is nothing else for Alberta. Bit of a one trick pony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwing 0 #18 June 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteDon't worry, he hates everyone west of Alberta and east of Alberta. It's kind of his shtick. EVERY single person in Toronto is either a Marxist, Leftist, Communist, pinko, etc....all 2.2 million of them. He pretty much hates everybody in Canada, but the US doesn't want him and he doesn't have anywhere else to go. ...and anyone who doesn't agree with him is a liberal loving, pastry eating, latte drinking, commie-fascist... ...but that's why we love him! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 June 28, 2010 Not only did I lose track of what everyone was protesting, but I think the protesters themselves did not know what they were protesting, they just knew they had to whine about something since that is what they are best at doing. There were so many special interest "I demand my cause be solved right now" protests going on it was laughable. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Whatever happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". These days it has been replaced with "what has the government done for me lately, whine whine whine where is my cheese". I will ask again, what did these protests/riots solve for the people of Toronto? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #20 June 28, 2010 QuoteYou may want to have a bit of a longer term view. Once the oil sands run out, there really is nothing else for Alberta. Bit of a one trick pony. You do realize that there is over one hundred years of oil in Alberta and Saskatchewan (at present day production levels) to power the entire world. Yes eventually it will run out, more than a century from now. Can you honestly sit there with a straight face and tell everyone you know what the world will be like 100+ years from now? Why do you think Canada has a certain clout in the world? Canada has a certain clout in the world because we are an energy producer. Canada does not have a certain amount of influence because there are whiners in Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,133 #21 June 28, 2010 >There were so many special interest "I demand my cause be solved >right now" protests going on it was laughable. Whatever happened to >personal responsibility? Whatever happened to "Ask not what your >country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". ?? Are you seriously saying that airing grievances against your government is expecting an unreasonable level of support from your government? Here in the US, back in the 1950's and 1960's, a lot of black protests were going on. They were attacked in all the same ways. "If those black scumbags just got jobs and kept to themselves, they wouldn't have to protest and we wouldn't have to have police beat them. It's all their fault." Protesters were arrested, beaten and killed pretty regularly. I bet it cost the police a bundle. Fortunately the civil rights protesters persevered and today we're all better off. How about protests today? Should the Tea Party protesters have been shut down because they were just whining? What did the protests solve for them? They're so chock full of special interests that very few knew what they were actually protesting (beyond "I hate Obama" of course.) Why don't they exhibit personal responsibility instead of just wanting the government to do everything for them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 June 28, 2010 Bill are the Tea Party protesters resorting to violence? What am I missing? Did I missing the news stories where Tea Party protesters trashed a city? Yes there are protesters of all political stripes, but not all of them resort to violence. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #23 June 28, 2010 QuoteI will ask again, what did these protests/riots solve for the people of Toronto? Nothing. Nor did Torontonians ask for protests, nor was anybody protesting for Toronto. Toronto was a venue and not a cause. Do you understand the difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #24 June 28, 2010 I am onside saying Toronto was the wrong venue for this meeting. For that Harper was wrong to have them there. I do not know what he was thinking. Harper is far from perfect. He has definitely made mistakes along the way. We just happen to have nothing but fools running in government (Federal, Provincial and Municipal) from all parties everywhere you look. Some are just bigger fools than others (you know which way I stand on where I think the biggest fools are). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #25 June 28, 2010 Quote Yes there are protesters of all political stripes, but not all of them resort to violence. And.....I know this is hard to believe for you....not all the protestors that were in Toronto resorted to violence. I do want to thank you for your tax money though, it made the little town close to my cottage a little prettier Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites