ChangoLanzao 0 #1 June 23, 2010 QuoteWe're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. CLICKY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #2 June 23, 2010 Good for them. I suspect from your title you have problem with this?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #3 June 23, 2010 i dont like the fact that they are a neo-nazi group to being with. So we agree on that. If this was a group that was affiliated in no way shape or form with hate, then I would say more power to them. QuoteWe're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. You cant trust a hate group to follow this. If they hate already, then they will find a way to shoot someone and try to make it look like self defense. But again, if this was just a group of citizens with a clear and trustworthy agenda, I would have no problem with it.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #4 June 23, 2010 So fucking what if he has a problem with it? But of course he does, why else would he tag a derogatory term to the title? But, oh fucking well... he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. I personally have absolutely no issue with protecting our borders from the criminal element (which is what "they" are, regardless of how poor and destitute they are, or how much "they" are trying to improve their life, or how many kids they have, or whatever...). If they want to come into this country to work, fine... just do it legally. Just because (insert any number here) people are doing something illegally doesn't make it legal, nor does it make it right, or moral, or any fucking thing. It's still illegal. Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #5 June 23, 2010 Quotewhy else would he tag a derogatory term to the title? Because they are a neo-nazi group, proudly displaying the swastika in their emblem.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #6 June 23, 2010 Indeed. And I'm sure that these guys will be very, very careful to distinguish between drug runners and simple illegal immigrants before they start shooting, what with all their law enforcement legal training and all. Quote J.T. Ready, a leader of the Mesa Chapter of the National Socialist Movement, believed to be the largest neo-Nazi group in the United States, led a group of armed men during an operation on Bureau of Land Management property, according to Lt. Tamatha Villar, a spokeswoman for the Pinal County Sheriff's Office. Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #7 June 23, 2010 Quote Indeed. And I'm sure that these guys will be very, very careful to distinguish between drug runners and simple illegal immigrants before they start shooting, what with all their law enforcement legal training and all. their claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote Indeed. And I'm sure that these guys will be very, very careful to distinguish between drug runners and simple illegal immigrants before they start shooting, what with all their law enforcement legal training and all. their claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants. Yeah, right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #9 June 23, 2010 Quotetheir claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants They are a hate group and they are the ones that will screw this up for everyone. I agree with the bill that AZ. passed, but the sad thing is that no matter if they use it fairly or not, every single time, someone will scream racism. Just because they can.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #10 June 23, 2010 Quotetheir claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants. Have a read and let us know if you trust them to make judgments about what qualifies as "self-defense" or to be truthful about any circumstances that lead to such an act of "self defense" http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.htmlOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #11 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Indeed. And I'm sure that these guys will be very, very careful to distinguish between drug runners and simple illegal immigrants before they start shooting, what with all their law enforcement legal training and all. their claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants. Yeah, right. I'm not interested in your bridge. But that is what they claim. I don't know how their actions will prove out though.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #12 June 23, 2010 QuoteQuotetheir claim is that they'll only act in self defense. So they wouldn't need to differentiate between drug runners and simple immigrants. Have a read and let us know if you trust them to make judgments about what qualifies as "self-defense" or to be truthful about any circumstances that lead to such an act of "self defense" http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.html where did I say I'd trust them? you're inferring incorrectly. I simply pointed out their claim. If that is the plan they stick to, then immigrant, drug dealer, or citizen doesn't matter. self defense is self defense.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 June 23, 2010 QuoteI'm not interested in your bridge. But I'm selling it cheap! Practically a steal. Cash only. Sign here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #14 June 23, 2010 Quote ...he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. Have you been taking Constitution lessons from Sarah Palin or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #15 June 23, 2010 Where did I say you said you'd trust them? I didn't infer anything. I asked you to read the link and let us know if you trusted them. It was a simple, direct questionOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #16 June 23, 2010 QuoteQuoteI'm not interested in your bridge. But I'm selling it cheap! Practically a steal. Cash only. I'll put it in the mail tomorrow Quote Sign here. X-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #17 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote ...he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. Have you been taking Constitution lessons from Sarah Palin or something? what's your point? do you think offensive opinions should be silenced so the thin-skinned don't get their feelings hurt? It was a rather obtuse comment... it's hard to derive your intent.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #18 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote ...he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. Have you been taking Constitution lessons from Sarah Palin or something? what's your point? do you think offensive opinions should be silenced so the thin-skinned don't get their feelings hurt? It was a rather obtuse comment... it's hard to derive your intent. You're right. It was a little too obtuse. Sorry about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kj126 0 #19 June 24, 2010 Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. I Am Sofa King We Todd Did!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #20 June 24, 2010 Quote Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. You can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? They would NEVER do that! How DARE you sir - they are completely upstanding law abiding people!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #21 June 24, 2010 QuoteYou can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? Like this dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,119 #22 June 24, 2010 Well, but he's smarter than the average bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #23 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. You can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? They would NEVER do that! How DARE you sir - they are completely upstanding law abiding people! "Were not illegal sir, we're from out of town." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyrider 0 #24 June 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteWe're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. CLICKY Soooo...."Protecting their Property makes Them Nazi's? I must be a nazi! But then judging by your past post..YOU are closer to a Nazi than any of those people! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #25 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote We're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. CLICKY Soooo...."Protecting their Property makes Them Nazi's? I must be a nazi! But then judging by your past post..YOU are closer to a Nazi than any of those people! Try reading the source article, silly! Quote J.T. Ready, a leader of the Mesa Chapter of the National Socialist Movement, believed to be the largest neo-Nazi group in the United States, led a group of armed men miscreants during an operation on Bureau of Land Management property, according to Lt. Tamatha Villar, a spokeswoman for the Pinal County Sheriff's Office. \ ETA: I had to fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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rhaig 0 #17 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote ...he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. Have you been taking Constitution lessons from Sarah Palin or something? what's your point? do you think offensive opinions should be silenced so the thin-skinned don't get their feelings hurt? It was a rather obtuse comment... it's hard to derive your intent.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #18 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote ...he has a Constitutional right to voice his opinion, and we don't have a right to 'not be offended' by it. Have you been taking Constitution lessons from Sarah Palin or something? what's your point? do you think offensive opinions should be silenced so the thin-skinned don't get their feelings hurt? It was a rather obtuse comment... it's hard to derive your intent. You're right. It was a little too obtuse. Sorry about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kj126 0 #19 June 24, 2010 Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. I Am Sofa King We Todd Did!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 June 24, 2010 Quote Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. You can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? They would NEVER do that! How DARE you sir - they are completely upstanding law abiding people!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 June 24, 2010 QuoteYou can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? Like this dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #22 June 24, 2010 Well, but he's smarter than the average bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #23 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Good thing all my neighbors see the immigration problem as I do. Plan was to drag the grill,beer cooler and tons of friends over to there back yard and just have on hell-of-a-party. swimming in thier pools and in general trashing the place,along with asking for free shit out of their fridge for what ever we did not bring. Then maybe they will get the point of what illegals are doing to our area.Oh, but you say there are laws against such acts as trespassing and loitering, you only ignore the laws that don't affect you.When did we become such a pansy ass country. You can't possibly mean that they tresspass, break into homes, houses, and cabins and eat all the food there? They would NEVER do that! How DARE you sir - they are completely upstanding law abiding people! "Were not illegal sir, we're from out of town." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #24 June 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteWe're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. CLICKY Soooo...."Protecting their Property makes Them Nazi's? I must be a nazi! But then judging by your past post..YOU are closer to a Nazi than any of those people! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #25 June 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote We're not just going to shoot anybody. We want to make it damn near impossible for drug and human smugglers to get through the area. Our focus is to block the area and deny access to drug cartels. We want to make sure we make their lives miserable. It will be deadly for them to cross that border, and we will ensure that we operate within the statutes in the Arizona Revised Code when it comes to acting out in self defense when we have to. If these guys don't want to be vulture food, they should consider finding another career. CLICKY Soooo...."Protecting their Property makes Them Nazi's? I must be a nazi! But then judging by your past post..YOU are closer to a Nazi than any of those people! Try reading the source article, silly! Quote J.T. Ready, a leader of the Mesa Chapter of the National Socialist Movement, believed to be the largest neo-Nazi group in the United States, led a group of armed men miscreants during an operation on Bureau of Land Management property, according to Lt. Tamatha Villar, a spokeswoman for the Pinal County Sheriff's Office. \ ETA: I had to fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
