rhaig 0 #26 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteOh, and BTW-I noticed that you gave job descriptions for both but didn't really answer how Obama's history, training, and experience makes his OPINIONS more valid. I thought I made it clear, but perhaps I need to say it with the caps locks key turned on so you can see the important thing. His opinions are more valid, because HE'S THE PRESIDENT. any opinion is as valid as the next. That's why they're opinions. One's position in the government doesn't make one's opinions any more correct than anyone elses opinions. The predient's opinions may carry more weight that others in the government, but that also is why the president needs to be careful in stating his opinions. What tends to make one's opinions more correct is a general body of knowledge on the subject and experience in that area. Doesn't always make them correct, but it helps. *** In case you missed it in the Constitution, THAT'S what makes his opinion the one that MUST be followed whether a general, you, me or Mickey Mouse says otherwise. Yes, this even applied to GWB, which is why we get to blame him for the adventures in Iraq. POTUS is the CinC of the armed forces. That makes his orders golden and his orders need to be followed. opinions offered as suggestions don't need to be followed. If an opinion is given as an order then it must be followed. There is a subtle yet important difference.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #27 June 25, 2010 Quote any opinion is as valid as the next. That's why they're opinions. Nonsense.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuote any opinion is as valid as the next. That's why they're opinions. Nonsense. So did you disprove your own argument?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #29 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote any opinion is as valid as the next. That's why they're opinions. Nonsense. So did you disprove your own argument? I haven't made an argument. www.google.com/search?q=dunning-kruger+effect&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGLL_en... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 June 25, 2010 Quote This is fascinating: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/22/obama-general-stanley-mccrystal-afghanistan The on-going senior military v's politician debacle continues...Is it just me or are coalition Generals' and Politicians' having a bit of a bitching contest on the go here? What on earth could possibly be wrong? I just wonder how he got him there to Quandary.... what with the Secret Service and people noticing Air Force 1 when it goes somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #31 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuote any opinion is as valid as the next. That's why they're opinions. Nonsense. No matter. Barry looks like an idiot for having to appoint the very man he was bashing 3 years ago. Daily it becomes more obvious that we have a junior senator/community organizer running the country.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 June 25, 2010 QuoteBarry looks like an idiot for having to appoint the very man he was bashing 3 years ago. Does it? QuoteAnd that is why the Petraeus appointment is at once brilliant and clever Source; http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1999251,00.html QuoteLast week, Petraeus told a Senate committee he supports Obama's policy and said the withdrawal date does not mean a mass exodus of US forces. But Petraeus cautioned that even in a "perfect world" the withdrawal time-line might have to be re-examined. Source; http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/06/23/obama-taps-petreaus-who-saved-bush-in-iraq-to-save-war-effort-in-afghanistan/ QuoteObama, Petraeus line up on deadline. Gen. David Petraeus, nominated by President Obama to take over as commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, has said he supports Obama's plan to begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan in July 2011. Source; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/25/the-economist-give-petrae_n_626236.html Seems to me that if even FoxNews and the Economist say it's a worthwhile team, then maybe the rest of the right-wing might wanna cut Obama some slack on it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #33 June 25, 2010 Quote maybe the rest of the right-wing might wanna cut Obama some slack on it. That ain't ever going to happen, not from any opposing side.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #34 June 25, 2010 QuoteObama, Petraeus line up on deadline Well, not exactly... QuoteBut more importantly, the White House and military have made clear the deadline can simply be changed depending on conditions on the ground. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said Thursday that if the strategy doesn't look like it's working at the end of the year, the military may recommend that the timeline be altered. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, meanwhile, stressed that the drawdown plan is "conditions-based," and said while General David Petraeus agrees with the president's overall strategy, "when he gets on the ground, he will assess the situation for himself." "And at some point, he will make recommendations to the president," Gates said. "And that's what any military commander should do. And the president will welcome those recommendations. But at the end of the day, the president will decide whether changes are to be made in the strategy." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008781-503544.html This is the kind of crap you get yourself into when you start playing politics with war. You'd think we would know better.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuote maybe the rest of the right-wing might wanna cut Obama some slack on it. That ain't ever going to happen, not from any opposing side. And that sir, is what is wrong with America today.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #36 June 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote maybe the rest of the right-wing might wanna cut Obama some slack on it. That ain't ever going to happen, not from any opposing side. And that sir, is what is wrong with America today. Nooooo what is wrong is excessive spending. Everything else is secondary.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
