Soooo???????Islam always a part of America?

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Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's story."



AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE:





Dear Mr. Obama:







Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed? Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.







Were those
Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving
day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and
Native American Indians.







Can you
show me one Muslim signature on the United
States Constitution?





Declaration
of Independence ?





Bill of
Rights?





Didn't
think so.





Did
Muslims fight for this country's freedom from
England ? No.





Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ? No, they did
not. In fact, Muslims to this day are
still the largest traffickers in human
slavery. Your own half brother, a devout
Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even
though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as "pug nosed slaves." Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family's "rich Islamic heritage," doesn't it Mr. Obama?





Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present.





There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.





Where were Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage era? Again, not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture. So much so, that often they are beaten for not wearing the 'hajib' or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women's rights, aren't they?



Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews.





Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they weren't flying planes into the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East . No one can dispute the pictures shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news networks that day. Strangely, the very "moderate" Muslims who's buts you bent
over backwards to kiss in Cairo , Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day.





And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the "rich heritage" Muslims have here in America .



Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates. They were Muslim.



And now we can add November 5, 2009 - the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a
doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan .





That, Mr. Obama is the "Muslim heritage" in America .



EVERY AMERICAN MUST READ THIS !!


Muslim
heritage, my foot!

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There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

What about Malcolm X?

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There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

What about Malcolm X?

Glad ya brought him up...A Terrorist! Thanks

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Glad ya brought him up...A Terrorist! Thanks

Whether he was a terrorist or not is irrelevant to the claim you are making. He is certainly a part of America's story...whatever else he might be.

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Glad ya brought him up...A Terrorist! Thanks

Whether he was a terrorist or not is irrelevant to the claim you are making. He is certainly a part of America's story...whatever else he might be.

Hardly goes toward proving "Always"

It would have been accurate to say, "minimally."

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So typical...

Tell me...what was the context of what he was saying? What did he say immediately after that quote?

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>Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution?

Nope. You know why? Had any of them tried to get near the Constitution, they would have been shot as runaway slaves.

But once we started freeing the slaves, a few started to become part of our history:

Yarrow Mamout. Released in 1807; became one of the first shareholders in the second US bank ever founded.

Ab-dul Rahman Ibrahima Ibn Sori. An African prince who was enslaved by raiders and sold to the US. In 1828 he was released by Presidential order. He worked for years to raise money to get the rest of his (large) family released. His picture is now on the wall at the US Library of Congress.

In 1865, the only book spared by the Union Army when they burned the University of Alabama library was a Koran.

1952 was a big day for Muslims. For the first time, Islam was recognized as a religion by the US government. Before that time, it was not recorded in any census information; indeed, even US servicemen could not identify themselves as "Muslim." They had to pick another religion.

Which might be why you don't see any records of Muslims serving in World War II. They weren't allowed to say they were Muslim.

>Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001?

All over the US - and the great majority of them were NOT celebrating. They were in as much shock as the rest of us, and as with everyone, each dealt with it in their own way.

Well, for the most part. Samad Afridi, Ashraf Ahmad, Shabbir Ahmad, Umar Ahmad, Azam Ahsan, Ahmed Ali, Tariq Amanullah, Touri Bolourchi, Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury, Abdul K. Chowdhury, Mohammad S. Chowdhury, Jamal Legesse Desantis, Ramzi Attallah Douani, SaleemUllah Farooqi, Syed Fatha, Osman Gani, Mohammad Hamdani, Salman Hamdani, Aisha Harris, Shakila Hoque, Nabid Hossain, Shahzad Hussain, Talat Hussain, Mohammad Shah Jahan, Mohammed Jawarta, Arslan Khan Khakwani, Asim Khan, Ataullah Khan, Ayub Khan, Qasim Ali Khan, Sarah Khan, Taimour Khan, Yasmeen Khan, Zahida Khan, Badruddin Lakhani, Omar Malick, Nurul Hoque Miah, Mubarak Mohammad, Boyie Mohammed, Raza Mujtaba, Omar Namoos, Mujeb Qazi, Tarranum Rahim, Ehtesham U. Raja, Ameenia Rasool, Naveed Rehman, Yusuf Saad, Rahma Salie, Shoman Samad, Asad Samir, Khalid Shahid, Mohammed Shajahan, Naseema Simjee, Jamil Swaati, Sanober Syed, Robert Elias Talhami, Michael Theodoridis, and W. Wahid were all doing something very specific. Let's see if you can figure out what it was.

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There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

What about Malcolm X?

Glad ya brought him up...A Terrorist! Thanks

And Muhammad Ali? It doesn't seem that too many slaves were muslum or blacks in America would have a longer history, but there's no question that quite a few converted during the Civil Rights era.

Also a nice pointer to the fact that one man's freedom fight is another man's terrorist. MLK was deemed the same by many in his time.

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There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

What about Malcolm X?

Glad ya brought him up...A Terrorist! Thanks

And Muhammad Ali? It doesn't seem that too many slaves were muslum or blacks in America would have a longer history, but there's no question that quite a few converted during the Civil Rights era.

Also a nice pointer to the fact that one man's freedom fight is another man's terrorist. MLK was deemed the same by many in his time.

What about the word ALWAYS?

Does the definition change because Obama spoke it?

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What about the word ALWAYS?

Does the definition change because Obama spoke it?

Well, it's pretty easy to disprove an "always" statement. it only takes one example.

It's foolish to continue if you have to use retarded arguments like 'no Muslims marched with MLK.' Such obvious falsehoods make readers question your entire thesis.

Of the 3000 people that died in the 9/11 attacks (excluding the 19 who carried it out), I'm sure at least some were Muslim as well. I'm also sure at least some slaves were. But saying none signed the Declaration when the eventual Constitutional only counted blacks as 3/5ths of a person has obvious logic flaws.

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>Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution?

Nope. You know why? Had any of them tried to get near the Constitution, they would have been shot as runaway slaves.

But once we started freeing the slaves, a few started to become part of our history:

Yarrow Mamout. Released in 1807; became one of the first shareholders in the second US bank ever founded.

Ab-dul Rahman Ibrahima Ibn Sori. An African prince who was enslaved by raiders and sold to the US. In 1828 he was released by Presidential order. He worked for years to raise money to get the rest of his (large) family released. His picture is now on the wall at the US Library of Congress.

In 1865, the only book spared by the Union Army when they burned the University of Alabama library was a Koran.

1952 was a big day for Muslims. For the first time, Islam was recognized as a religion by the US government. Before that time, it was not recorded in any census information; indeed, even US servicemen could not identify themselves as "Muslim." They had to pick another religion.

Which might be why you don't see any records of Muslims serving in World War II. They weren't allowed to say they were Muslim.

>Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001?

All over the US - and the great majority of them were NOT celebrating. They were in as much shock as the rest of us, and as with everyone, each dealt with it in their own way.

Well, for the most part. Samad Afridi, Ashraf Ahmad, Shabbir Ahmad, Umar Ahmad, Azam Ahsan, Ahmed Ali, Tariq Amanullah, Touri Bolourchi, Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury, Abdul K. Chowdhury, Mohammad S. Chowdhury, Jamal Legesse Desantis, Ramzi Attallah Douani, SaleemUllah Farooqi, Syed Fatha, Osman Gani, Mohammad Hamdani, Salman Hamdani, Aisha Harris, Shakila Hoque, Nabid Hossain, Shahzad Hussain, Talat Hussain, Mohammad Shah Jahan, Mohammed Jawarta, Arslan Khan Khakwani, Asim Khan, Ataullah Khan, Ayub Khan, Qasim Ali Khan, Sarah Khan, Taimour Khan, Yasmeen Khan, Zahida Khan, Badruddin Lakhani, Omar Malick, Nurul Hoque Miah, Mubarak Mohammad, Boyie Mohammed, Raza Mujtaba, Omar Namoos, Mujeb Qazi, Tarranum Rahim, Ehtesham U. Raja, Ameenia Rasool, Naveed Rehman, Yusuf Saad, Rahma Salie, Shoman Samad, Asad Samir, Khalid Shahid, Mohammed Shajahan, Naseema Simjee, Jamil Swaati, Sanober Syed, Robert Elias Talhami, Michael Theodoridis, and W. Wahid were all doing something very specific. Let's see if you can figure out what it was.

Hmmm.... I could take a stab at this.... I know there were Muslims at work in their jobs in the World Trade Center that perished in the 9/11 attacks. Could these names belong to those?

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Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's story."

Kind of like a cancor sore is part of a cancer patient's story?

OK, that was maybe a bit extreme. But to grandstand and kiss ass like that as if Muslim heritage has meant squat in the USA until very recently is just pure political grandstanding BS.

What is wrong with our population that we keep electing one superficial assinine conceited self-centered non-principled leader after another?

I think the Obushma era is going to go down as a true low point in history.

Maybe on the rebound we start electing honest, straightforward, intelligent, principled leaders instead of manipulative two-faced mannequins.

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Hmmm.... I could take a stab at this.... I know there were Muslims at work in their jobs in the World Trade Center that perished in the 9/11 attacks. Could these names belong to those?

My guess is first responders.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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i don't think this question even required an answer, it was more rhetorical!

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honest, straightforward, intelligent, principled leaders

Not gonna find that in DC...on either side of the aisle. Sad part is most Obamabots believed he was different...suckas.

Please don't dent the planet.

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>Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution?

Nope. You know why? Had any of them tried to get near the Constitution, they would have been shot as runaway slaves.

But once we started freeing the slaves, a few started to become part of our history:

you could not be more wrong...In the 1700's blacks were considered equal to whites and this didn't change until the early 1800's.. blacks were honored a lot more then, then most people realize. they were a part of our history until racism took root.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ppomv0wHNQ&feature=player_embedded

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America's story? Though this concept is probably more clear to rational-thinking human beings, America is a nation which thrives upon diversity and opportunity. It thrives upon these two items because our constitution allows it to. Blatant racism is absolutely vile in any form, though considerably more so when displayed as outwardly as you choose to do so.

Fortunately for us all, America is not solely comprised of middle-aged, white bikers. But, now that you've adequately expressed your distaste for Muslims, you should probably get back to your Klan meeting.

Nauseating.

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Guess which country was the first to recognize the United States of America?

Morocco.

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