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airdvr 210
I have no problem with these folks getting some much needed R & R. I think it's funny when both sides have kittens over it.
This I struggle with.
Quotethe gov only has a role in ensuring dilligence and repayment, for which Obama has done.
This I struggle with.
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Even Bush knew to stop playing golf at this point. Especially with the gulf war and Katrina catastrophes going on. But I guess this is the liberal work ethic in him coming out
He really is clueless, even compared to Bush isn't he?***
The difference is that Bush quit playing due to his frustration over his inability to succefully negotiate the "crocodile and windmill" holes.
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QuoteObama's own statements make claim that he is doing everything he can.
Such as: It's the first thing he thinks about when he wakes up, and the last thing he thinks about when he goes to bed...
In between those times, well, there is a lot of room for other things that are a lot more fun.
Come on now, just pointing out the hypocrisy, nothing new or unexpected there. Y'all give it out, can't you take it?
I'll start: GWB should have had the reserve, guard, hell, anyone at theready when Katrina was running thru the south. It was forseeable and predictable, even the enormity of it for at least a week, more like a couple weeks.
There, that's my critism.
Now, your criticism of Obama is what his thoughts are as he wakes up and when he goes to bed. OK, if you have time between your rhetoric, tell us what HE SHOULD BE DOING; it's a matter of substance over semantics in my world, apparently not for yours.
QuoteI don't expect Obama can do very much to help, but he could do some things he hasn't, like accept all the help that has been offered,...
What's been offered by whom and why did he turn it down? If you're gonna make a point, at least be semi-comprehensive.
Quote...allow states to do what they want, ...
Ahhhhhhhh, now I see it, this is just a bastardized attempt to slide political agenda into the oil spill issue. Yea, states rights are important, that's what slave owners used to think.
Quote...and stop sending the dept of justice out to make public statements about their intent to someday sue BP. If they're going to sue them, then do it when you've got the case ready, but it seems that Obama is spending more time on the strategy of destroying a company than the strategy of disaster management.
Apparently you don't understand how posturing is how you plea bargain issues, both civilly and criminally. Watch real closely:
- Obama: Hey BP, pay for your mess.
- BP: Don't we have a 75M cap on these types of disasters?
- Obama: I think we need to look into criminal negligence here.
- BP: Ya know what, I think we should take the high road here and not hide behind the 75M cap, we'll put 20B in an escrow account.
- Obama: I don't think we'll find any criminal negligence here.
But I guess you find more love for BP than for all teh families in the gulf and teh ecology. And I dare call conservatives, corporo-fascists.
QuoteTony Hayward is an idiot for thinking that yachting would go over well, but Obama and Emanuel are also not so bright.
Again, play golf, dn't play golf, go to teh gulf, don't go - go X number of times only, wipe his ass front to back or back to front. You guys have to have an answer as to what he SHOULD DO if you critique what he SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
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.Quote.... Says the guy that was blasting Bush during Karina.....
Katrina was just a bit different with people dying and all on live TV, why Bush over flew New Orleans at 40,00ft.
Yea, it was completely different, completely forseeable, etc. Connies are trying to retroactivley seek absolution for Katrina.....what a joke.
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Katrina:
- Was easily predicted, even the enormity of it
- The damage was just rescue and cleanup, very easy and done a million times
- GWB didn't prepare the gaurd or anyone, knowing it would be a huge mess
- GWB didn't send tropps or any relevantg help to the gulf even after the degree of damage was done and known for over a week.
1. Predict the upcoming Hurricanes and damage they will do this season.
2. Is the clean up done and New Orleans recovered? I know a lot of people that would disagree.
For 3 and 4 I am clueless. Preview post and spell check are your friend. However I believe a good counterpoint to your incoherent ramblings would be the Coast guard is without real leadership and Obama could be doing a lot more, for example, don't ground the ships that are cleaning up the oil because you can't verify if they have life jackets on them!
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Lucky... 0
QuoteI have no problem with these folks getting some much needed R & R. I think it's funny when both sides have kittens over it.
Quotethe gov only has a role in ensuring dilligence and repayment, for which Obama has done.
This I struggle with.
Dilligence to clean up and then repayment of damages? What's the problem and why should the gov not ensure that? Should we leave these poor gulf residents and BP in the same courtroom so BP can walk all over them? You gotta be shittin me.
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Katrina was just a bit different with people dying and all on live TV, why Bush over flew New Orleans at 40,00ft.
At least bush flew over it. Does Obama even know where Louisiana is? Maybe some one should point it out to him on a map so he can visit.
Also, I see he finally got around to talking to Tony Hayward after he was blasted in the media about it. Holy afterthought bat man, maybe it is a good idea!
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Katrina was just a bit different with people dying and all on live TV, why Bush over flew New Orleans at 40,00ft.
At least bush flew over it. Does Obama even know where Louisiana is? Maybe some one should point it out to him on a map so he can visit.
Also, I see he finally got around to talking to Tony Hayward after he was blasted in the media about it. Holy afterthought bat man, maybe it is a good idea!
There was a reason he flew over
Had he stopped there would have been huge delays in getting some supplies in due to the security the President warrants when he flies in some where.
He told the states leaders he would help
They declined until their incompetence forced them to let the Feds help.
The Katrina story was distorted for people like Lucky
You know, those who take the talking points and then only feel about something
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jclalor 12
QuoteThere was a reason he flew over
Had he stopped there would have been huge delays in getting some supplies in due to the security the President warrants when he flies in some where.
He told the states leaders he would help
They declined until their incompetence forced them to let the Feds help.
The timeless comedic stylings of rushmc, don't ever stop.
Lucky... 0
QuoteAt least bush flew over it. Does Obama even know where Louisiana is? Maybe some one should point it out to him on a map so he can visit.
Do you have a clue as to what you're talking about? Obama has been there 4 times as of June 14th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/us/15spill.html
QuoteAlso, I see he finally got around to talking to Tony Hayward after he was blasted in the media about it. Holy afterthought bat man, maybe it is a good idea!
Yea, all Obama has done is to pressure BP into putting 20B in an escrow. What a do-nothing.
Lucky... 0
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Katrina was just a bit different with people dying and all on live TV, why Bush over flew New Orleans at 40,00ft.
At least bush flew over it. Does Obama even know where Louisiana is? Maybe some one should point it out to him on a map so he can visit.
Also, I see he finally got around to talking to Tony Hayward after he was blasted in the media about it. Holy afterthought bat man, maybe it is a good idea!
There was a reason he flew over
Had he stopped there would have been huge delays in getting some supplies in due to the security the President warrants when he flies in some where.
He told the states leaders he would help
They declined until their incompetence forced them to let the Feds help.
The Katrina story was distorted for people like Lucky
You know, those who take the talking points and then only feel about something
This is canned rhetoric not parroted by every conservative who read or heard of Ms Manslaughteress's book detailing why, years later of course, that GWB only flew over. WHy did it take so long to come up with that one?
Furthermore, the real rub is that GWB didn't send in troops/help/supplies for the 1st week after Katrina, you still have yet to address that one.
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airdvr 210
QuoteQuoteI have no problem with these folks getting some much needed R & R. I think it's funny when both sides have kittens over it.
Quotethe gov only has a role in ensuring dilligence and repayment, for which Obama has done.
This I struggle with.
Dilligence to clean up and then repayment of damages? What's the problem and why should the gov not ensure that? Should we leave these poor gulf residents and BP in the same courtroom so BP can walk all over them? You gotta be shittin me.
I guess what bothers me more than anything is folks like you Lucky who are so damned sure their answer is the correct one. I said I struggle with it. There is pro and con to it. You, and folks like you don't bother with possibilities. Very closed minded all the while spouting about how open minded you are.
Please don't dent the planet.
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Lucky... 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteI have no problem with these folks getting some much needed R & R. I think it's funny when both sides have kittens over it.
Quotethe gov only has a role in ensuring dilligence and repayment, for which Obama has done.
This I struggle with.
Dilligence to clean up and then repayment of damages? What's the problem and why should the gov not ensure that? Should we leave these poor gulf residents and BP in the same courtroom so BP can walk all over them? You gotta be shittin me.
I guess what bothers me more than anything is folks like you Lucky who are so damned sure their answer is the correct one. I said I struggle with it. There is pro and con to it. You, and folks like you don't bother with possibilities. Very closed minded all the while spouting about how open minded you are.
OK, now that you've gotten your angry ad hominem ran off your chest, address the issue:
Dilligence to clean up and then repayment of damages? What's the problem and why should the gov not ensure that? Should we leave these poor gulf residents and BP in the same courtroom so BP can walk all over them? You gotta be shittin me.
I'll enumerate it for you so you can avoid it again:
1) Dilligence to clean up and then repayment of damages? What's the problem and why should the gov not ensure that?
2) Should we leave these poor gulf residents and BP in the same courtroom so BP can walk all over them?
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QuoteSuspend the Jones Act!!!
Yep. Should have been done more than a month ago. Talk about criminal negligence....
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jgoose71 0
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Do you have a clue as to what you're talking about? Obama has been there 4 times as of June 14th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/us/15spill.html
Of course I know Obama has been to the Gulf, he was just here in Pensacola the other day.
What gives you the right to say Bush only flew over Louisiana at 40,000'?
I know I'm getting petty and letting you drag me down into the depths of conversation reserved for Liberals, but maybe it's time conservatives starting taking a few pointers from the liberal book on "how to protest the man" since liberals are now in power and are the man.
Roll reversal
While were talking about failure, When is Obama going to get FEMA involved? He can put them on speaker phone with his Blackberry while at the golf course
Isn't that how a Wall street executive or an Oil company CEO would do it?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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QuoteI know I'm getting petty
What day is this.. Sunday.... SSDD
Katrina:
- Was easily predicted, even the enormity of it
- The damage was just rescue and cleanup, very easy and done a million times
- GWB didn't prepare the gaurd or anyone, knowing it would be a huge mess
- GWB didn't send tropps or any relevantg help to the gulf even after the degree of damage was done and known for over a week.
The BP oil spill:
- Was completely unpredictable
- Caused by a private corporation
- was a mess that the gov knew less about than private coprorations, the gov only has a role in ensuring dilligence and repayment, for which Obama has done.
So after you dodge those issues, once again dodge the question of what you want Obama to do; go to the gulf- do go, don't play golf, play golf in the gulf, or are you just reaching and out of gas?
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