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Apparently instead of playing a drinking game, the commentators played a barfing game. Same difference, I guess.

Actually, I forgot to watch the speech - there was a Star Trek TNG marathon on.
Come to think of it, that's what Obama should say to BP: "Make it so."

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Oh say it ain't so!

You mean he actually likes the platform that is builking at the cost of the gulf?
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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



Hmm
Never thought of that

I heard a good point on the radio this morning on the way to work
If Obama keeps slamming BP anf forcing their worth down, how are they going to pay for all he wants them to pay for?
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I think Dick Morris said it best:

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But this president is no executive. He is a legislator – he is now pushing new environmental legislation. He is a lawyer – his Attorney General is investigating criminal charges against BP. He is a populist – he is quick to blame BP. He is a big spender – he wants a fund to pay the spill’s victims. He is all of these things. But he is no chief executive and that, unfortunately, is the job he was elected to do.



Buyers remorse is starting to kick in for a lot of people. Of course, if they were a little smarter, they would have saw him for what he was in the very beginning. I guess that is what happens when you are blinded by ideology.
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I think Dick Morris said it best:

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But this president is no executive. He is a legislator – he is now pushing new environmental legislation. He is a lawyer – his Attorney General is investigating criminal charges against BP. He is a populist – he is quick to blame BP. He is a big spender – he wants a fund to pay the spill’s victims. He is all of these things. But he is no chief executive and that, unfortunately, is the job he was elected to do.



Buyers remorse is starting to kick in for a lot of people. Of course, if they were a little smarter, they would have saw him for what he was in the very beginning. I guess that is what happens when you are blinded by ideology.


Now, they are becoming more and more blinded by anger[:/]

And as usual it will be somebody elses fault.
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Dr. Susan MacManus, political analyst, (http://gia.usf.edu/faculty/smacmanus/)
just stated in a radio interview that President Obama made a major faux pas when he listed the loss of life as number three on the Gulf spill concerns.
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I think Dick Morris said it best:

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But this president is no executive. He is a legislator – he is now pushing new environmental legislation. He is a lawyer – his Attorney General is investigating criminal charges against BP. He is a populist – he is quick to blame BP. He is a big spender – he wants a fund to pay the spill’s victims. He is all of these things. But he is no chief executive and that, unfortunately, is the job he was elected to do.



Buyers remorse is starting to kick in for a lot of people. Of course, if they were a little smarter, they would have saw him for what he was in the very beginning. I guess that is what happens when you are blinded by ideology.




I have a couple gripe with him, but I do with Clinton too. Mostly not getting out of Iraq/AFG.

As for buyer's remorse, we had a selection of 2, down, down Ron Paul fanatics, there were 2 real choices. So we had this porgressive guy who has really brought the economy out of a hole that was on teh brink of another 10-year depression and the other guy, a guy who embraced Reagan's pump the militiary up as see how fast we can triple the debt.

Anyone who thinks that Reagan was a great military leader and then criticizes Clinton's lobbing of missles to an asprin factory after the USS Cole, nothing after the Beirut barracks attack killing 300+ marines, is truely not being honest.

Anyone who thinks that Reagan was a great fiscal leader for tripling the debt, a stable debt into a mess that would take 12 years after Reagan left office and an additional < 2.5T to stabilize is also not being honest.

Why is this relevant? MCCAIN THOUGHT THE WORLD OF REAGAN AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD YET ANOTHER SENILE OLD COOT WHO THINKS TAX CUTS, MY FRIENDS ACTUALLY HELP THINGS. So as for buyer's remorse, get real. Either that or defend Reagan's mess, because that's what we would have had.

That said, I think Obama has done a great job < 2 years into one of the worst conditioned governments a person could inherit. In order to disagree a person must pretend we weren't on the brink of a total fiscal collapse and not engaged in 2 messy wars, started on ill premise.

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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



For what?



Destroying a private company's stock value
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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As for buyer's remorse, we had a selection of 2, down, down Ron Paul fanatics, there were 2 real choices. So we had this porgressive guy who has really brought the economy out of a hole that was on teh brink of another 10-year depression and the other guy, a guy who embraced Reagan's pump the militiary up as see how fast we can triple the debt.



Obama is definitely disappointing, but the alternative would have been disastrous. The oil spill is Dick Cheney's fault [CLICKY ]and it's going to take a lot of work to undo the damage that criminal is still doing to our country.

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As for buyer's remorse, we had a selection of 2, down, down Ron Paul fanatics, there were 2 real choices. So we had this porgressive guy who has really brought the economy out of a hole that was on teh brink of another 10-year depression and the other guy, a guy who embraced Reagan's pump the militiary up as see how fast we can triple the debt.



Obama is definitely disappointing, but the alternative would have been disastrous. The oil spill is Dick Cheney's fault [CLICKY ]and it's going to take a lot of work to undo the damage that criminal is still doing to our country.
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You guys are amazing:D

Now its Cheeny's fault for deregulation but Dodd and Schumer get a pass for the current economic mess triggered by Fannie and Freddie

:D:D

Oh crap man
Thanks for the laugh:D
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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



For what?



Destroying a private company's stock value



Do you actually know what libel is?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



For what?


Destroying a private company's stock value


Do you actually know what libel is?


:D:D

That dart missed my friend!:D
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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



For what?


Destroying a private company's stock value


Do you actually know what libel is?


:D:D

That dart missed my friend!:D


Then perhaps you could answer his question by using an example of libelous behaviour.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I'm just wondering when he's going to get the Federal Government slapped with a libel suit.



For what?


Destroying a private company's stock value


Do you actually know what libel is?


:D:D

That dart missed my friend!:D


Then perhaps you could answer his question by using an example of libelous behaviour.


How about you just say I dont know cause I will not answer

And I will not because your question is demeaning and a waste of time[:/]
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How about you just say I dont know cause I will not answer



Eh? That sentence doesn't make sense. Are you saying you don't know?

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And I will not because your question is demeaning and a waste of time



You answered a question about what Obama has said that is libelous with an answer that has nothing to do with libel.

If you don't see where you went wrong, it's fair to assume that you're not really clear on what libel is.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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How about you just say I dont know cause I will not answer



Eh? That sentence doesn't make sense. Are you saying you don't know?

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And I will not because your question is demeaning and a waste of time



You answered a question about what Obama has said that is libelous with an answer that has nothing to do with libel.

If you don't see where you went wrong, it's fair to assume that you're not really clear on what libel is.



I know where you are coming from but his retorhic has caused huge losses for this company. I all of what he is saying about BP true in your estimation?

(I also realize you dont think any conservative as smart as your are)
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I know where you are coming from but his retorhic has caused huge losses for this company. I all of what he is saying about BP true in your estimation?



when he says they screwed up, it's largely true.

But most ofthe stock damage has come from his threats to make them pay for this. And that is also true - he made those statements. So while you may see a shakedown, it's not libel. Or slander.

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I know where you are coming from but his retorhic has caused huge losses for this company.



His rhetoric? Not the fact that they caused one of the worst environmental disasters ever, all of their efforts to staunch it have so far failed, they're months away from a long term solution, they're faced with a multi-billion dollar cleanup effort on a scale that no-one yet knows, in part because they've been lying about the size of the leak since day one? Their share price hasn't suffered because of that, but because Obama's been putting the boot in?

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I all of what he is saying about BP true in your estimation?



What has he been saying that you can show to be false?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I know where you are coming from but his retorhic has caused huge losses for this company.



His rhetoric? Not the fact that they caused one of the worst environmental disasters ever, all of their efforts to staunch it have so far failed, they're months away from a long term solution, they're faced with a multi-billion dollar cleanup effort on a scale that no-one yet knows, in part because they've been lying about the size of the leak since day one? Their share price hasn't suffered because of that, but because Obama's been putting the boot in?

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I all of what he is saying about BP true in your estimation?



What has he been saying that you can show to be false?



Is all of what he is saying true??
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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