Obama to the Gulf

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Sorry, I just feel like bitchin'.
When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?
The money spent on flying his butt down there would be better spent helping people whose lives are turned upside down by this whole ordeal.
Doe she expect the oil to stop flowing because AF-1 flew over??
I voted for the guy, but this is a waste of resources that could better be used to help people.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Sorry, I just feel like bitchin'.
When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?
The money spent on flying his butt down there would be better spent helping people whose lives are turned upside down by this whole ordeal.
Doe she expect the oil to stop flowing because AF-1 flew over??
I voted for the guy, but this is a waste of resources that could better be used to help people.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong.

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Sorry, I just feel like bitchin'.
When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?
The money spent on flying his butt down there would be better spent helping people whose lives are turned upside down by this whole ordeal.
Doe she expect the oil to stop flowing because AF-1 flew over??
I voted for the guy, but this is a waste of resources that could better be used to help people.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong.

Oh, but Belgian isn't the right wing , he voted for Obama

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Sorry, I just feel like bitchin'.
When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?
The money spent on flying his butt down there would be better spent helping people whose lives are turned upside down by this whole ordeal.
Doe she expect the oil to stop flowing because AF-1 flew over??
I voted for the guy, but this is a waste of resources that could better be used to help people.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong.

Oh, but Belgian isn't the right wing , he voted for Obama

Well, you finally made an accurate post. Congratulations.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[JohnRich 4]

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When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?

He must have finally figured out whose butt to kick.
And his polls have been sliding.
All he needs is a photo-op looking into the eyes of an oil-soaked pelican, with a tear in his eye.

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Sorry, I just feel like bitchin'.
When Obama made his first trip to the Gulf, I thought it was in order and what he should be doing.
When he made his second trip, I though, "Ok, so the second is a photo op".
Now he is on his fourth trip.
What can he possibly do to help the situation by going there that he can't do from the White House?
The money spent on flying his butt down there would be better spent helping people whose lives are turned upside down by this whole ordeal.
Doe she expect the oil to stop flowing because AF-1 flew over??
I voted for the guy, but this is a waste of resources that could better be used to help people.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong.

Oh, but Belgian isn't the right wing , he voted for Obama

Well, you finally made an accurate post. Congratulations.

So all the posts about the DJIA, GDP, unemp data weren't correct, even tho the data supprted it? BTW, the faces illustrates the unbelievability of your claims of voting for Obama or any Dem. I have yet to read you show support for anything but finatacle RW agendas; you're not even moderate.

[Gawain 0]

What concerns me more about his continued visits down there is the actual impediment to progress it creates. When the President makes his trips, the advance team has to go through, check the whole route, plan, schedule and sh*t stops in some cases for up to 24 hours. Then, once the resources are on the ground, everything is displaced for sake of the motorcade/Marine-1.

These are all valid measures to be taken for the Commander-in-Chief, but at some point, repeated visits, which, at this point, do not offer any operational benefit, become an impeding factor. In short: they get in the way.

President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Andy9o8 2]

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President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

Yet we all know fully well that if he wasn't there, the critics would be screaming at the lack of visible leadership: "Where is he?"

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Please hijack some other thread.
Thank you.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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What concerns me more about his continued visits down there is the actual impediment to progress it creates. When the President makes his trips, the advance team has to go through, check the whole route, plan, schedule and sh*t stops in some cases for up to 24 hours. Then, once the resources are on the ground, everything is displaced for sake of the motorcade/Marine-1.

These are all valid measures to be taken for the Commander-in-Chief, but at some point, repeated visits, which, at this point, do not offer any operational benefit, become an impeding factor. In short: they get in the way.

President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

This is the same horseshit reason GWB gave for not visiting the area but for a quicky fly-over after Katrina. The 2 disasters are quite different, here, Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible. Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people. The 2 disasters and COMPLETELY different in regard to rescue/relief, Obama's presence hinders exactly zero and shows he's personally surveying the situation, now he has to firce your beloved oil companies off their 75M damage cap, it'll be fun to watch you spin that one considering the RW is kinda stuck here in that they hate Obama, but also hate anything that damages big corporation.

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Please hijack some other thread.
Thank you.

Nothing relevant to add? How bizzare .

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Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people.

Thank you for highlighting your complete lack of understanding concerning natural disaster response.

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Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible.

Which he can do from DC without causing the aerial response to work around those damn TFR's he causes by being in the area.

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[wayneflorida 0]

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What concerns me more about his continued visits down there is the actual impediment to progress it creates. When the President makes his trips, the advance team has to go through, check the whole route, plan, schedule and sh*t stops in some cases for up to 24 hours. Then, once the resources are on the ground, everything is displaced for sake of the motorcade/Marine-1.

These are all valid measures to be taken for the Commander-in-Chief, but at some point, repeated visits, which, at this point, do not offer any operational benefit, become an impeding factor. In short: they get in the way.

President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

ditto
Check out the TFR (temporary flight restrictions)
I just heard that hwy 98 from gulf breeze into pensacola will be closed down from 8-11. This is a major road to get anywhere you want to go.
Back in 04 during the campaign I had to sit in a K-mart parking lot for about an hour because Bush was in town and going to travel down the hwy next to the k-mart. I needed to get on the other side of hwy 85 for a meeting. No other way because the road cuts the Ft. Walton in half. I sat there and waited no knowing how long. Finally the black SUVs
and busses went by and it was clear to go.

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What concerns me more about his continued visits down there is the actual impediment to progress it creates. When the President makes his trips, the advance team has to go through, check the whole route, plan, schedule and sh*t stops in some cases for up to 24 hours. Then, once the resources are on the ground, everything is displaced for sake of the motorcade/Marine-1.

These are all valid measures to be taken for the Commander-in-Chief, but at some point, repeated visits, which, at this point, do not offer any operational benefit, become an impeding factor. In short: they get in the way.

President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

This is the same horseshit reason GWB gave for not visiting the area but for a quicky fly-over after Katrina. The 2 disasters are quite different, here, Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible. Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people. The 2 disasters and COMPLETELY different in regard to rescue/relief, Obama's presence hinders exactly zero and shows he's personally surveying the situation, now he has to firce your beloved oil companies off their 75M damage cap, it'll be fun to watch you spin that one considering the RW is kinda stuck here in that they hate Obama, but also hate anything that damages big corporation.

Just when I think you can't top yourself....

First, I made no comparison to Katrina, you did. Since you brought it up: The White House did contact the City of New Orleans, and the Governor's office prior to Katrina - at least three days prior. The reply was, "No thank you. We got this." Should then President Bush have told FEMA to be at the ready anyway? Yes. Still the response with far and wide way faster than any harness of resources here.

Second, the National Guard is not the President's to activate unless for combat operations. The Chief Executive of a state's National Guard is the Governor (and we all know how well she did).

Third, the President can certainly administer BP financial assistance from DC through his SecDHS and SecInterior, like an executive would do....oh wait....President Obama has not shown himself to be an executive.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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So all the posts about the DJIA, GDP, unemp data weren't correct, even tho the data supprted it? BTW, the faces illustrates the unbelievability of your claims of voting for Obama or any Dem. I have yet to read you show support for anything but finatacle RW agendas; you're not even moderate.

You consider Obama a Moderate, so your measuring stick is JUST a bit skewed.

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Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people.

Thank you for highlighting your complete lack of understanding concerning natural disaster response.

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Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible.

Which he can do from DC without causing the aerial response to work around those damn TFR's he causes by being in the area.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE......

He is the President.... bottom line in this case is he can do what he wants to do.

I would think you would be down with it after a lifetime of GREAT DECIDERS

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

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President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

Yet we all know fully well that if he wasn't there, the critics would be screaming at the lack of visible leadership: "Where is he?"

I agree with Andy on this. I didn't vote for him, and I don't agree with him on a lot of issues, but I'm not going to hammer too hard on him for this.

It's a "leadership function". He has to show up and look like he really cares and that he is doing everything he can to deal with this situation. Not that he can do anything at this point.

If he didn't, he would be criticized for "not caring" and being "too detached from the situation" and "not getting first-hand information" about it.

There's a fine line between going too much and not going often enough. And not everyone is going to agree with where that line is.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Please hijack some other thread.
Thank you.

Nothing relevant to add? How bizzare .

Hey, Bubba...you're the one who posted completely irrelevant crap.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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What concerns me more about his continued visits down there is the actual impediment to progress it creates. When the President makes his trips, the advance team has to go through, check the whole route, plan, schedule and sh*t stops in some cases for up to 24 hours. Then, once the resources are on the ground, everything is displaced for sake of the motorcade/Marine-1.

These are all valid measures to be taken for the Commander-in-Chief, but at some point, repeated visits, which, at this point, do not offer any operational benefit, become an impeding factor. In short: they get in the way.

President Obama's style is quite involved once he gets his momentum, but his presence at this point is stopping work from being done. Use the SecInterior and SecDHS along with the Coast Guard commander to direct the action/plan (assuming there was one).

This is the same horseshit reason GWB gave for not visiting the area but for a quicky fly-over after Katrina. The 2 disasters are quite different, here, Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible. Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people. The 2 disasters and COMPLETELY different in regard to rescue/relief, Obama's presence hinders exactly zero and shows he's personally surveying the situation, now he has to firce your beloved oil companies off their 75M damage cap, it'll be fun to watch you spin that one considering the RW is kinda stuck here in that they hate Obama, but also hate anything that damages big corporation.

Yep, blame Bush for people refusing to leave when told to evacuate. Typical Liberal stance to blame somebody else for their own fuckup.
Exactly what good would it have done for Bush to have landed in a hurricane devasted area while rescues were underway? What good does it do for Obama to visit the Gulf region four times?

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.