Obama Liar Liar

[rushmc 23]

Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

Someone needs to tell that to Oblamer

The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer.

[kallend 2,148]

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

Someone needs to tell that to Oblamer

Obama told lies in the SOTU Address to justify an invasion? When did that happen?

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[rushmc 23]

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

As soon as you say all the others were liars you will have a point
Until then your head is in the sand, on purpose I think

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

As soon as you say all the others were liars you will have a point
Until then your head is in the sand, on purpose I think

Where does the buck stop, Marc?

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[DaVinci 0]

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It's also funny how Republicans have suddenly got religion about the deficit and debt, while they hardly uttered a word of criticism when Reagan and the Bushes were racking then up.

And its funny how liberals are not saying a word about it, and in fact encouraging it now, when they were up in arms about it when Bush was in office.

Funny huh?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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And its funny how liberals are not saying a word about it, and in fact encouraging it now, when they were up in arms about it when Bush was in office.

Funny huh?

Not really, it is only human nature to be upset only when money is being spent on things you don't agree with.

Hence, when massive amounts of money are being spent to kill brown people. Some people cheer and some people oppose.

When massive amounts of money are being spent on trying to help Americans, those cheering and opposing seem to be on opposite sides.

[rushmc 23]

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Then if Bush lied
Who else did

A point you ignore daily

It was Bush who gave the State of the Union Address with all the lies in it, and Bush who ordered the invasion.

One of the things about being CinC and Prez is the place the buck stops.

As soon as you say all the others were liars you will have a point
Until then your head is in the sand, on purpose I think

Where does the buck stop, Marc?

For you that question has different answers according to what party is in power

But you change the premise. You are saying Bush lied to get us into the war. You have yet to square that stupid assertion with what was being said by many others from a time before Bush was even running until the time the war started!
So, to say Bush was lying you have to also include many of your Democratic heroes in the ”who was lying” scenario. Typical

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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So, to say Bush was lying you have to also include many of your Democratic heroes in the ”who was lying” scenario. Typical

Just as a hypothetical:

If you show me a forged document that convinces me that you own a tank. Then I turn around and tell other people that you own a tank. Am I lying?

[rushmc 23]

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So, to say Bush was lying you have to also include many of your Democratic heroes in the ”who was lying” scenario. Typical

Just as a hypothetical:

If you show me a forged document that convinces me that you own a tank. Then I turn around and tell other people that you own a tank. Am I lying?

I dont know . Are you?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I that scenario, I wouldn't think I am.

I see some similarities. I'm sure you won't.

[rushmc 23]

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I that scenario, I wouldn't think I am.

I see some similarities. I'm sure you won't.

I see the you dont think you are point but I am not sure what you mean by the similarities.

This Bush lied claim is pure bs because those WMD claims were being made by people in the Gov long before Bush was even a canidated in the primaries. Those making the claims at that time were getting the same intel that Bush recieved once he was in office. And those making the WMD claim long before Bush continued to do so even after Bush was in office.

Now, bad intel is bad intel but all reports say his admin did not cook the books on this and this, added to what else was going on does not a liar make

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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This Bush lied claim is pure bs because those WMD claims were being made by people in the Gov long before Bush was even a canidated in the primaries.

This just doesn't make any sense. Just because other people said something doesn't mean Bush didn't lie. Also doesn't mean he did lie, it just doesn't prove anyting. As far as logic goes, they are not even related.

I believe intel was deliberately pushed and dumped based on what the current administration wanted to hear.

[kallend 2,148]

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It's also funny how Republicans have suddenly got religion about the deficit and debt, while they hardly uttered a word of criticism when Reagan and the Bushes were racking then up.

And its funny how liberals are not saying a word about it, and in fact encouraging it now, when they were up in arms about it when Bush was in office.

Funny huh?

Nope, just wrong.

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[rushmc 23]

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This Bush lied claim is pure bs because those WMD claims were being made by people in the Gov long before Bush was even a canidated in the primaries.

This just doesn't make any sense. Just because other people said something doesn't mean Bush didn't lie. Also doesn't mean he did lie, it just doesn't prove anyting. As far as logic goes, they are not even related.

I believe intel was deliberately pushed and dumped based on what the current administration wanted to hear.

It was the same intel spoken about for years

If Bush lied they all lied
or they all didn't
period

The story line was the same for what15 years????


Bottom line,
The left just needs the demons to continue to satisfy the base and push their causes

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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It's also funny how Republicans have suddenly got religion about the deficit and debt, while they hardly uttered a word of criticism when Reagan and the Bushes were racking then up.

And its funny how liberals are not saying a word about it, and in fact encouraging it now, when they were up in arms about it when Bush was in office.

Funny huh?

Nope, just wrong.

Ok show us your posts condemning Obama's spending

pretty funny huh

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

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It's also funny how Republicans have suddenly got religion about the deficit and debt, while they hardly uttered a word of criticism when Reagan and the Bushes were racking then up.

And its funny how liberals are not saying a word about it, and in fact encouraging it now, when they were up in arms about it when Bush was in office.

Funny huh?

Nope, just wrong.

Ok show us your posts condemning Obama's spending

pretty funny huh

No, your misreading of what was written is sad, not funny.

Or did you just hit "reply to" without bothering to read, AGAIN?

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[rushmc 23]

Show me the posts

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

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Show me the posts

Plenty of them with about the same amount of value to the conversation

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[jakee 1,595]

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It was the same intel spoken about for years

What exactly does that mean?

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If Bush lied they all lied or they all didn't period

Not that simple.

Bush and his cadre were in a very priviledged position compared with pretty much everyone else who supported the war back then.

They're the ones setting the agenda, they're the ones in a position to put immense pressure on the intelligence agencies to tell them what they want to hear, they're the ones with the capability to crop, cherry pick, massage and otherwise sex-up the data they're being presented before they pass it on to everyone else.

It sure as hell happened over here (look up the 'dodgy dossier' for example) and I would stake my wingsuit and BASE rig on it happening on your side of the pond as well.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

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It was the same intel spoken about for years

What exactly does that mean?

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If Bush lied they all lied or they all didn't period

Not that simple.

Bush and his cadre were in a very priviledged position compared with pretty much everyone else who supported the war back then.

They're the ones setting the agenda, they're the ones in a position to put immense pressure on the intelligence agencies to tell them what they want to hear, they're the ones with the capability to crop, cherry pick, massage and otherwise sex-up the data they're being presented before they pass it on to everyone else.

It sure as hell happened over here (look up the 'dodgy dossier' for example) and I would stake my wingsuit and BASE rig on it happening on your side of the pond as well.

It is that simple as it was going on long before Bush was even running

want the quotes again? They have been posted here many time

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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It was the same intel spoken about for years

If Bush lied they all lied
or they all didn't
period

The story line was the same for what15 years????

You mean to tell me that the decision to go to war with Iraq was made on Intel that was 15 years old?

If he relied on then current (cooked) Intel, well then your whole argument falls apart.

[rushmc 23]

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It was the same intel spoken about for years

If Bush lied they all lied
or they all didn't
period

The story line was the same for what15 years????

You mean to tell me that the decision to go to war with Iraq was made on Intel that was 15 years old?

If he relied on then current (cooked) Intel, well then your whole argument falls apart.

nice twist

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln