skyrider 0 #1 June 9, 2010 Screw our problems at home, he must help his Muslim brothers defeat the Jews! QuoteWASHINGTON — President Obama promised a $400 million aid package for the West Bank and Gaza on Wednesday, as the United States scrambled to come up with a way out of the stalemate in the Middle East exacerbated by the Gaza flotilla incident last week. Mr. Obama, meeting with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas at the White House, said that the money would go to housing and schools. White House officials said that the money also would help increase access to drinking water and to help address health and infrastructure needs. The exact details of how such aid would be used in Gaza remained unclear. Nor was it immediately clear how Mr. Abbas, who has authority in the West Bank but no authority in Gaza, would be able to administer it. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world ... ss&emc=rss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #2 June 9, 2010 You have just shot yourself in the foot again, my friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #3 June 9, 2010 Let Arafat's widow provide funds for aid from all the money he skimmed from earlier aid programs.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #4 June 10, 2010 .. to Palestinian's what? Or is this another case of an apostrophe meaning "look out, an 's' is coming".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 June 10, 2010 So where does Barry get the authority to decide to spend this kind of money all by himself. No citizen voted for this. No legislative representatives voted for it. He just did it, entirely on his own... Is he going to stand on the bow of the ship trying to run the Israeli blockade trying to deliver it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #6 June 10, 2010 >So where does Barry get the authority to decide to spend this kind of >money all by himself. Probably the same place Bush (sorry, Shrub) got the authority to give the Palestinians over a billion dollars while he was in office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 June 10, 2010 Quote>So where does Barry get the authority to decide to spend this kind of >money all by himself. Probably the same place Bush (sorry, Shrub) got the authority to give the Palestinians over a billion dollars while he was in office. Probably = I don't really know - I just wanted to scrape up another opportunity to insult Bush again, even though I know he's not the President anymore, and I know I complain when people bash Clinton all these years later, but I still have to be a hypocrite.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #8 June 10, 2010 Quote .. to Palestinian's what? Or is this another case of an apostrophe meaning "look out, an 's' is coming". It really bugs me too. Even my bloody spell check refuses to let me put an s on the end of any word without it trying to stick a bloody apostrophy in.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 June 10, 2010 QuoteSo where does Barry get the authority to decide to spend this kind of money all by himself. No citizen voted for this. No legislative representatives voted for it. He just did it, entirely on his own... Is he going to stand on the bow of the ship trying to run the Israeli blockade trying to deliver it? Write him a letter John and ask for the 2c that came out of your taxes back.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #10 June 10, 2010 Let me tell you what is really going to happen with the aid. It's going to get funneled to Iran for weapons to be shot into Israel. Aid does no good to a country like Palestine who's government is ripe with corruption and has very fucked up priorities."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #11 June 10, 2010 Quote .. to Palestinian's what? Or is this another case of an apostrophe meaning "look out, an 's' is coming". Good comeback. You win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #12 June 10, 2010 QuoteLet me tell you what is really going to happen with the aid. It's going to get funneled to Iran for weapons to be shot into Israel. Aid does no good to a country like Palestine who's government is ripe with corruption and has very fucked up priorities. Finally, after all the spell check freaks, we have soemone that has their eyes open! Obama is helping his Muslim brothers defeat isreal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #13 June 10, 2010 >Obama is helping his Muslim brothers defeat isreal! Funny how you let Bush slide when he gave over a billion to the Palestinians, but once Obama proposes giving less than half that much, he's "in league with the enemy." Conservative logic, gotta love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 June 10, 2010 Quote>Obama is helping his Muslim brothers defeat isreal! Funny how you let Bush slide when he gave over a billion to the Palestinians, but once Obama proposes giving less than half that much, he's "in league with the enemy." Conservative logic, gotta love it. This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #15 June 10, 2010 >This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #16 June 10, 2010 Quote>Obama is helping his Muslim brothers defeat isreal! Funny how you let Bush slide when he gave over a billion to the Palestinians, but once Obama proposes giving less than half that much, he's "in league with the enemy." Conservative logic, gotta love it. I acknowledge your point. I would love it if any president would say that no more aid will come from us until Arafat's widow coughs up some of her stolen money. Obama would earn a lot of praise from me if he would do such a thing. Or if he said that the Arab countries can do it rather than us. But instead, he won't even be caught on camera with the Israeli PM. That might insult someone. Presidents shouldn't be afraid of making such challenging statements.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 June 10, 2010 Quote>This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? That I don't know - but the US has given before - so it is 400 more - 400 more of funds that I never agreed should ever be sent in the first place.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #18 June 10, 2010 >I would love it if any president would say that no more aid will come >from us until Arafat's widow coughs up some of her stolen money. I agree that Arafat (and several other leaders in Hamas) are basically villains. But punishing the Palestinian people because of their leader's actions isn't always justifiable. It's the same logic that says that it's OK for Hamas to attack Israeli civilians because of what the Israeli government has done, and the same logic that says that it's OK to kill Americans in terrorist attacks because of what _their_ government has done. Yes, that aid often gets diverted to weapons (or more accurately, local money that would have gone to aid now can be used for weapons.) And it might be valid to say "we will give no aid to anyone that might use that aid to help build their military." But if that's the case, we would surely be hypocrites to balk at sending a few hundred million a year to humanitarian aid for the Palestinians while sending billions a year to Israel specifically to buy weapons. I'd be OK with ending all such aid. But if only one has to continue, I'd rather feed people than buy bombs with the money - and a lot more of the money to the Israelis goes to buying bombs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #19 June 10, 2010 QuoteQuote>This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? That I don't know - but the US has given before - so it is 400 more - 400 more of funds that I never agreed should ever be sent in the first place. I didn't realize that you had to give permission to spend taxpayers' money. I never agreed to spending $Trillion on a war in Iraq.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 June 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote>This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? That I don't know - but the US has given before - so it is 400 more - 400 more of funds that I never agreed should ever be sent in the first place. I didn't realize that you had to give permission to spend taxpayers' money. I never agreed to spending $Trillion on a war in Iraq. Sucks huh?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #21 June 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? That I don't know - but the US has given before - so it is 400 more - 400 more of funds that I never agreed should ever be sent in the first place. I didn't realize that you had to give permission to spend taxpayers' money. I never agreed to spending $Trillion on a war in Iraq. Sucks huh? Yep, but that's the way it works. None of us get a veto.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #22 June 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. OK. So how much has Obama given the Palestinians so far? That I don't know - but the US has given before - so it is 400 more - 400 more of funds that I never agreed should ever be sent in the first place. I didn't realize that you had to give permission to spend taxpayers' money. I never agreed to spending $Trillion on a war in Iraq. Sucks huh? Yep, but that's the way it works. None of us get a veto. Doesn't make it right.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #23 June 10, 2010 QuoteI never agreed to spending $Trillion on a war in Iraq. But we know where that authority comes from: the War Powers Act gives the President the power to use the military temporarily without a declaration of war, but funding of wars is still the purview of Congress. So we as citizens DO have representation for that. You may not like the decisions of Congress, but they ARE our representatives. And as you like to say so much; "you elected them, so quit complaining." What I'm asking is, what gives Barry the power to unilaterally send aid money to foreign nations? There may well be some legal basis for this, but I'd like to know what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #24 June 10, 2010 QuoteThis is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. Was Bush's contribution $1 billion MORE.....or just $1 billion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #25 June 10, 2010 QuoteQuote>Obama is helping his Muslim brothers defeat isreal! Funny how you let Bush slide when he gave over a billion to the Palestinians, but once Obama proposes giving less than half that much, he's "in league with the enemy." Conservative logic, gotta love it. This is 400 MORE . . . not just 400. From the part of the article that Skyrider clipped out: "Mr. Obama, meeting with the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, at the White House, also promised a $400 million aid package for the West Bank and Gaza, though only about $70 million represented a new commitment...."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites