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Should a disco be allowed to be built in Auschwitz?

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Hi folks~, I asked this question over at my boards. It's a legit question. Both my parents were in the Warsaw Ghetto and went through the camps.

I have the utmost respect for all that got my parents free,

Seriously ... not spam, however if you would like to know more about my parents and the Holocaust please feel free to visit my tribute site. No ads, no spam, just a simple tribute site where you can read an eye witness to the Holocaust.

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Hi folks~, I asked this question over at my boards. It's a legit question. Both my parents were in the Warsaw Ghetto and went through the camps.

I have the utmost respect for all that got my parents free,

Seriously ... not spam, however if you would like to know more about my parents and the Holocaust please feel free to visit my tribute site. No ads, no spam, just a simple tribute site where you can read an eye witness to the Holocaust.

http://rachelnurman.com/



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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price

the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!



I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?
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A mile from is not the same as in.

Hell, a mile from is a pretty respectful distance.



The Jews did not feel so.

The building itself was used for the camps as well - was receiving area for luggage.

Given the nature of the area - density, etc as I was there in 2008) - I don't think it's a particularly respectful distance, but I can see the viewpoint of those who live there as well. I think it would be better located on the other end of town, in a building without a history.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1353358/Anger-as-Auschwitz-disco-gets-go-ahead.html
JEWISH groups responded furiously yesterday after Polish authorities approved plans for a disco at Auschwitz, site of the Nazi extermination camp.

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre, the Jewish human rights organisation, said the disco would be housed in a building used by the Nazis to sort and store luggage taken to Auschwitz by its victims. It was also used to store hair shaved from the heads of the dead. "It is difficult to put into words the level of rage felt by the victims of the Nazis," the centre said.

Adam Bilski, mayor of Oswiecim, the Polish name for Auschwitz, said approval had been given after objections from local groups were overruled. Mr Bilski added: "The disco does not hinder visitors to the memorial site for the victims of the Nazis." He added that many residents were tired of their town being treated only as a graveyard and museum.

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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price

the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!



I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?



ah, so it was one of those postings.

But a disco and a place of worship aren't quite the same thing.

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The building itself was used for the camps as well - was receiving area for luggage.



Well, ya didn't mention the building had any historical significance. I assumed you were talking about something being built, as in new.

The problem with any construction anywhere is that somebody is going to think it's "too close" to some significant landmark. While I agree in a lot of cases that they're probably right, in certain areas, I just don't know how far away is actually reasonable.

Certainly "in" the museum compound is out of the question.

In the same city? Yeah, ok, I can't fault anyone for wanting a disco in the same city.

Next door? No, that doesn't seem right.

A mile away? I dunno. That still seems pretty respectful. You're probably not going to hear it if you're at the museum at night and it's probably not going to intrude. There are other ways of dealing with noise issues though.

In a historically significant building? Well, fuck! That does change the equation, but my guess is that any building that survived the end of the war is somehow historically significant. That's a pretty grey one.

How do we feel about the French Quarter of New Orleans and the night clubs in cellars where slaves were held, bought and sold over a hundred years ago? I personally don't have a problem with that and have visited a few. The buildings themselves are nefariously historic, but they now have a positive use while still acknowledging the past.

Just as a point of reference, there is a comedy club less than a mile away from Arlington National Cemetery. I doubt the two really have any significant impact on one another.
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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price
the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!


I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?


ah, so it was one of those postings.
But a disco and a place of worship aren't quite the same thing.



Quite right! The First Amendment protects freedom of religion, but not freedom of discos.
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> Should a disco be allowed to be built in Auschwitz?

Sure, if the people in Auschwitz are OK with it. Heck, both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now big industrial cities again with bars, nightclubs, the works. That's a good thing.

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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price

the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!



I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?



It is a comparison to the same thinking, Yes!

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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price
the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!


I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?


It is a comparison to the same thinking, Yes!



Is it?

Discos are not protected by the US Constitution. Under what law would you propose halting the building of a mosque in the US?
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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price
the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!


I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?


It is a comparison to the same thinking, Yes!



Is it?

Discos are not protected by the US Constitution. Under what law would you propose halting the building of a mosque in the US?



Did I say halt it?

I am pointing out how Inapropriate it is!

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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price
the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!


I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?


It is a comparison to the same thinking, Yes!


Is it?
Discos are not protected by the US Constitution. Under what law would you propose halting the building of a mosque in the US?


Did I say halt it?
I am pointing out how Inapropriate it is!



Look at your thread title. Did it say "inappropriate" or "allowed to be built"?
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Within or on the grounds of what has been preserved as a museum and memorial - certainly not (as if those that oversee the place would even consider). On private property, why not?

If it is private property, and if someone thinks it should be limited to certain uses because of it's history, then that someone should buy it and donate it to the museum.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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BTW as a fellow skydiver with a traceable D number, Nitorus is the REAL DEAL...his Family paid the price
the attack on New York, is much historically(sp?) is much like allowing the same thing to happen...I am curious!


I see, so is this thread really about the mosque that is being built a few blocks away from the World Trade Center in New York? Is that what you're actually driving at?


It is a comparison to the same thinking, Yes!


Is it?
Discos are not protected by the US Constitution. Under what law would you propose halting the building of a mosque in the US?


Did I say halt it?
I am pointing out how Inapropriate it is!



Look at your thread title. Did it say "inappropriate" or "allowed to be built"?



it Doesn;t say "Halt" Either!

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Hi there,

jumping from one thread to the other: How about you having a look at post No. 22 here? Fine example for a "proper English" you require from others, aliens f.e.? :S

One simple sentence - and how many errors?

Man. Clean your own home first ....

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So no adult reaction to the post?, just nit picking about spelling and grammar? I run into assholes like you all over the net...same low IQ jerks!

If grammar and spelling are you hobbies, along with Typos, search my post...I will keep you busy!

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