futuredivot 0 #26 May 27, 2010 Quote Quote I didn't realize that illegal was a race. I didn't realize you didn't read the first and last lines of the "poem." Think jingle-think Yankee Doodle. Think you may not have to take everything in the manner that offends you worse. And you blew it on the "first and last line" comment too. Do you think that only Mexican nationals or for that matter South Americans are the only ones sneaking across the southern border? They're not so how about holding you critique accuracy to at least the same standard as you hold a JOKE. And if that little ditty puts that much sand in your panties I'm sorry that I didn't write it.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 May 27, 2010 QuoteThink jingle-think Yankee Doodle. Do you have any idea what "Yankee Doodle" is about or where it came from? It's not exactly a compliment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Doodlequade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 May 27, 2010 Quote If it were written in the style of welfare laws, it would be a parody of the laws. As it is, it's a piece of political writing. Either that, or what I'm writing now is wonderful literature, because I say so. Hmmm -- that sounds good maybe I'll stick with wonderful literature Wendy P. Just because you are who you are and I enjoy having dinner with y'all, I can go with your asessment.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #29 May 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteThink jingle-think Yankee Doodle. Do you have any idea what "Yankee Doodle" is about or where it came from? It's not exactly a compliment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Doodle Matter of fact I do. That was the correlation between the example and the original post-neither were complementary, neither were entirely accurate, and nobody with any common sense would expect any different. Now "Do you have any idea" how silly it is to lead with such a patronizing tone only to step on your dick in the point of your post?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #30 May 27, 2010 QuoteNow "Do you have any idea" how silly it is to lead with such a patronizing tone only to step on your dick in the point of your post? "Patronizing tone" is an interesting phrase coming from you and the two posts you've just made. I am nothing but a mirror. If you see a "patronizing tone" consider it a reflection.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #31 May 27, 2010 I gotta disagree. Maybe it's a perception thing but I see 'patronizing' and a look down your nose at someone superiority kinda thing. I'm more sarcastic/abrasive. I don't look down my nose, I'll just look you in the eye and insult you.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 May 27, 2010 Quote I am nothing but a mirror. Wow - I was giving you more credit, but thanks for clearing it up for us. I wonder why he would say anythig regarding original thinking then. Or is that Billvon that made those comments . . . y'all look alike to me.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #33 May 27, 2010 You guys DO know that Progressives are better than you and I, dontcha? Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #34 May 27, 2010 Quote You guys DO know that Progressives are better than you and I, dontcha? When did progressives begin? I figure it was when they needed to find a way to disassociate themselves from the words "Liberal" and "Democrat".I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #35 May 27, 2010 Quote Quote You guys DO know that Progressives are better than you and I, dontcha? When did progressives begin? I figure it was when they needed to find a way to disassociate themselves from the words "Liberal" and "Democrat". They get a bit offended when you use words like democrat and liberal. They actually are Progressives. Quote http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/08/what-is-progressivism-1.html 1. There exists a better way and that is shown by the very successful polities of northwestern Europe and near-Europe. We know that way can work, even if it is sometimes hard to implement. 2. Progressive policies offer more scope for individualism and some kinds of freedom. Greater security gives people a greater chance to develop themselves as individuals in important spheres of life, not just money-making and risk protection and winning relative status games. 3. Determinism holds and tales of capitalist meritocracy are an illusion, to be kept only insofar as they are useful. 4. The needs of the neediest ought to be our top priority, as variations in the well-being of other individuals are usually small by comparison, at least in the United States. 5. U.S. policy is not generally controlled by egalitarian interests, So it is doing "God's work" to push for such an egalitarian emphasis at the margin. At the very least it will improve the quality of discourse, even if the U.S. never actually arrives in "progressive-land." 6. Limiting inequality will do more to check bad governance than will the quixotic libertarian attempt to limit the size of government. 7. Skepticism about the public sector is by no means altogether unwarranted, yet true redistributive programs are possible and they can work and be politically popular; we even have some here in the United States. 8. We should support free trade, more immigration, and more foreign aid, but the nation-state will remain the fundamental locus for redistribution. That means helping the poor at home more than abroad; a decision to do otherwise would destroy political equilibrium and make everyone worse off. 9. State and local governments are fundamentally to be mistrusted (recall segregation) and thus we should transfer more power to the federal government, which tends to be bluntly and grossly egalitarian, when it manages to be egalitarian at all. That is OK. 10. The United States has to struggle mightily to meet the progressive standards of western Europe and we should not equate the two regions in terms of their operation or capabilities. Yet there is an alternative strand in American history, if not always a dominant one, showing that progressive change is possible. Think Upton Sinclair and Martin Luther King and the organizers of early labor unions. 11. The evidence on economic growth is murky and so it is not clear that doing any of this carries much of a penalty in terms of future growth. In some regards it will enhance the especially beneficial sides of economic growth, even if it does not boost growth overall. Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites