Zach 0 #176 May 27, 2010 Quote>it doesn't So sexism is more acceptable than racism when it comes to prison population justification. Good to know. >( but blacks are not more criminal than whites) They provably are; more are convicted of crimes than whites on a percentage basis. Since you guys are taking it on that tangent, in most cases this is because of their actions and not because of their complexion (though there is racism to some degree in every part of American society because it is made up of human beings, who are good, bad, and ugly). Zach Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #177 May 27, 2010 >the jews had much higher conviction rates than germans - but they were >no more criminal... And men have much higher conviction rates than women. According to you that makes them more criminal. It seems like your reasoning changes readily to fit your desired outcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #178 May 27, 2010 Quote >the jews had much higher conviction rates than germans - but they were >no more criminal... And men have much higher conviction rates than women. According to you that makes them more criminal. It seems like your reasoning changes readily to fit your desired outcome. and you're throwing reasoning out the window when you say that women are just as violent/criminal as men stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #179 May 27, 2010 >and you're throwing reasoning out the window when you say that >women are just as violent/criminal as men You're apparently saying that whites are just as violent as blacks as well. Sounds like you're using the same window. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #180 May 27, 2010 Quote>and you're throwing reasoning out the window when you say that >women are just as violent/criminal as men You're apparently saying that whites are just as violent as blacks as well. Sounds like you're using the same window. i'm definitely saying that blacks are no more criminal than whites. (same as the jews were no more criminal than germans - what do you believe)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #181 May 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteget your facts right... "several centuries" that's right - several centuries. and after that segregation and discrimination.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #182 May 27, 2010 >i'm definitely saying that blacks are no more criminal than whites. And you're saying that men are definitely more criminal than women - even though you have equal proof in both cases. You prefer sexism, which is fine. It's just hard to take your faux outrage seriously when you just prefer a different kind of discrimination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #183 May 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteget your facts right... "several centuries" that's right - several centuries. and after that segregation and discrimination. I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #184 May 28, 2010 Quote >i'm definitely saying that blacks are no more criminal than whites. And you're saying that men are definitely more criminal than women - even though you have equal proof in both cases. ok - you use your 'equal' proof to show that women are more violent/criminal than men (meanwhile jews/blacks are no more criminal than whites/germans)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #185 May 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteget your facts right... "several centuries" that's right - several centuries. and after that segregation and discrimination. I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. i say three centuries - then segregation and discrimination. not to just a few individuals but to a complete minority culture.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #186 May 28, 2010 >ok - you use your 'equal' proof to show that women are more >violent/criminal than men . . . I never said that. I do not claim that women are more violent or more criminal than men. You're the one saying they are different when it comes to crime; you prove it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #187 May 28, 2010 QuoteQuote I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. i say three centuries - then segregation and discrimination. not to just a few individuals but to a complete minority culture. 240 years doesn't make 3, nor does it make several. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #188 May 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. i say three centuries - then segregation and discrimination. not to just a few individuals but to a complete minority culture. 240 years doesn't make 3, nor does it make several. so, three centuries of slavery and then another century of enforced segregation and discrimination - thankyou for agreeing with me stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #189 May 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. i say three centuries - then segregation and discrimination. not to just a few individuals but to a complete minority culture. 240 years doesn't make 3, nor does it make several. so, three centuries of slavery and then another century of enforced segregation and discrimination - thankyou for agreeing with me You aren't good with Maths and History are you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #190 May 28, 2010 Quote>ok - you use your 'equal' proof to show that women are more >violent/criminal than men . . . I never said that. you say x = y but then can't also accept that y = x (if you can find a country/society with women who are more violent/criminal than men then perhaps you'll start to make sense - otherwise not)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #191 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't think many English speaking countries consider "2" to be several. i say three centuries - then segregation and discrimination. not to just a few individuals but to a complete minority culture. 240 years doesn't make 3, nor does it make several. so, three centuries of slavery and then another century of enforced segregation and discrimination - thankyou for agreeing with me Wow - so what you are saying is that the United States of America was involved in the slave trade 20 years before Columbus set sail from Spain.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #192 May 30, 2010 no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #193 May 30, 2010 Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #194 May 30, 2010 Quoteno, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Informing me - because your information is so accurate. 3 centuries plus 240 years is 540 years. That would make the year you are "informing" me of 1470. Please explain to us what slaves the citizens of the United States had at that time, and back that up with documentation. After the explanation is given, and the facts are checked, we will all believe you and your information.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #195 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic so you're blaming everyone else for your problems?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #196 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic so you're blaming everyone else for your problems? How could you POSSIBLY correlate your question to her response? Please show logical flow please. Oh - and answer the previous question too.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #197 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic so you're blaming everyone else for your problems? How could you POSSIBLY correlate your question to her response? Please show logical flow please. Oh - and answer the previous question too. i did stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #198 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic so you're blaming everyone else for your problems? How could you POSSIBLY correlate your question to her response? Please show logical flow please. Oh - and answer the previous question too. i did No you didn't . . . you bypassed this one . . . 3 centuries plus 240 years is 540 years. That would make the year you are "informing" me of 1470. Please explain to us what slaves the citizens of the United States had at that time, and back that up with documentation. After the explanation is given, and the facts are checked, we will all believe you and your information.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #199 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote no, what i'm informing you is that blacks will never gain equal wealth with whites under the current system. (why is that) Why do you live in a glass house and seek to throw bricks???? Have you checked how minorities are REALLLLY treated in your country?????? What is the rate of incarceration of minorities in YOUR prisons?????? Why are so many of your minorities suffering from racial discrimination and violence??? I thought your nanny state socialist nirvana made everyones life so idyllic so you're blaming everyone else for your problems? How could you POSSIBLY correlate your question to her response? Please show logical flow please. Oh - and answer the previous question too. i did No you didn't . . . you bypassed this one . . . 3 centuries plus 240 years is 540 years. That would make the year you are "informing" me of 1470. Please explain to us what slaves the citizens of the United States had at that time, and back that up with documentation. After the explanation is given, and the facts are checked, we will all believe you and your information. three centuries is three centuries (plus another century of segregation and discrimination)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #200 May 30, 2010 Quote Quote i did No you didn't . . . you bypassed this one . . . 3 centuries plus 240 years is 540 years. That would make the year you are "informing" me of 1470. Please explain to us what slaves the citizens of the United States had at that time, and back that up with documentation. After the explanation is given, and the facts are checked, we will all believe you and your information. three centuries is three centuries (plus another century of segregation and discrimination) OK - so we'll be nice and let you shave a measly little 140 years off your figuring. Say we do that - three centuries PLUS one century = 400 Years. What was the approximate number of slaves that US citizenry owned 400 years ago.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
