kallend 2,184 #26 May 20, 2010 Quotethe problem isn't with al gore getting rich. the problem is that he's claiming that we're in a global climate crisis and he's selling snake oil. if he really believed we were in a climate crisis, he would drasticly reduce his carbon footprint AND buy carbon offsets. How do you know that he hasn't? The property isn't new. Any rich person could have bought it. You have no idea of the level of sustainability that is involved in its upkeep under Gore's ownership. For the right wing ignoramuses out there, sustainability does NOT mean abstinence.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #27 May 20, 2010 take his new house out of it and his carbon footprint is still hundreds of times bigger than the average person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 May 20, 2010 Quotetake his new house out of it and his carbon footprint is still hundreds of times bigger than the average person. How many "average" people fly in a private jet?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuotethe problem isn't with al gore getting rich. the problem is that he's claiming that we're in a global climate crisis and he's selling snake oil. if he really believed we were in a climate crisis, he would drasticly reduce his carbon footprint AND buy carbon offsets. How do you know that he hasn't? The property isn't new. Any rich person could have bought it. You have no idea of the level of sustainability that is involved in its upkeep under Gore's ownership. For the right wing ignoramuses out there, sustainability does NOT mean abstinence. Put more succinctly: I got mine, so fuck off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotethe problem isn't with al gore getting rich. the problem is that he's claiming that we're in a global climate crisis and he's selling snake oil. if he really believed we were in a climate crisis, he would drasticly reduce his carbon footprint AND buy carbon offsets. How do you know that he hasn't? The property isn't new. Any rich person could have bought it. You have no idea of the level of sustainability that is involved in its upkeep under Gore's ownership. For the right wing ignoramuses out there, sustainability does NOT mean abstinence. Put more succinctly: I got mine, so fuck off. More like - Ha ha hahahaha - SUCKERS!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #31 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote take his new house out of it and his carbon footprint is still hundreds of times bigger than the average person. How many "average" people fly in a private jet? Going off on a tangent here: Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #32 May 20, 2010 Quote Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! why would she exempt the Senate, given that she's in the House? A favor to Difi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #33 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote The great thing about US politics is there's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. I thought of that when I wrote it but though I shouldn't expand the point it past my own nation.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #34 May 20, 2010 Quote How many "average" people fly in a private jet? WellYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #35 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! why would she exempt the Senate, given that she's in the House? A favor to Difi? I thought she was a senator? Hmmm..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #36 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! why would she exempt the Senate, given that she's in the House? A favor to Difi? I thought she was a senator? Hmmm... I would think that the Speaker of the House would be a member of the House of Representatives, not a member of the Senate."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #37 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! why would she exempt the Senate, given that she's in the House? A favor to Difi? I thought she was a senator? Hmmm... I would think that the Speaker of the House would be a member of the House of Representatives, not a member of the Senate. You're right. My bad. Just did a search on Nancy. Well good for her. As long as she practices what she preaches.... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #38 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Nancy Pelosi helped pass a bill requiring US Representatives to use commercial flights when traveling and limiting their per diem for each destination, etc. The problem I have with that bill, is, US Senators are exempt. BITCH! why would she exempt the Senate, given that she's in the House? A favor to Difi? I thought she was a senator? Hmmm... I would think that the Speaker of the House would be a member of the House of Representatives, not a member of the Senate. You're right. My bad. Just did a search on Nancy. Well good for her. As long as she practices what she preaches.... I'm thinking she had to exempt the Senate to get it to pass. She could shame/persuade/bargain/extort the Dems in the House to get it passed, but doesn't have enough power in the Senate because she isn't part of it."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #39 May 20, 2010 Quote pussy offsets. ...anybody got a link for that? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #40 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/photos-al-goree-new-8875_n_579286.html I'm sure this has a minimal carbon footprint. This, along with his mansion in Nashville... He's a common man, looking out for the downtrodden and the polar bears. He's looking out for you! Yeah! So good that he practices as he preaches. he's done extremely well for himself. A fine example of capitalism at work. It always amazes me thats staunch supporters of big business have such a hard time with Al Gore getting rich. Quite frankly, I wish I would have thought of it. Bingo. Al Gore is laughing all the way to the bank. The guy's a brillinat capitalist - he CREATED a market! And he is making gazilions off of it. He decided that televangelists make a fortune by predicting fire and brimstone in hell and letting them know that they know the way to a future with cooler temperatures by telling others how to live sin free lives - while blowing guys in bathroom stalls. Al Gore foretells fire and brimstone - a hell on earth! Meanwhile, he can explain to people that he has the solution and others should live a carbon minimal life - all the while flying cross-country in private jets and neglecting to even ensure that his Nashville estate's incandescent bulbs are turned off when nobody's using them. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #41 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuotethe problem isn't with al gore getting rich. the problem is that he's claiming that we're in a global climate crisis and he's selling snake oil. if he really believed we were in a climate crisis, he would drasticly reduce his carbon footprint AND buy carbon offsets. How do you know that he hasn't? The property isn't new. Any rich person could have bought it. You have no idea of the level of sustainability that is involved in its upkeep under Gore's ownership. For the right wing ignoramuses out there, sustainability does NOT mean abstinence. Everybody funny, now you funny too. Gore obviously has a problem witht the size of his penis. Why else would he need 2 huge homes. I'll bet he drives a 'vette too.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #42 May 20, 2010 Quotetake his new house out of it and his carbon footprint is still hundreds of times bigger than the average person. You know this? How? Please give numbers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #43 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuotetake his new house out of it and his carbon footprint is still hundreds of times bigger than the average person. How many "average" people fly in a private jet? I have. It was going anyway and I bummed a ride.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #44 May 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotethe problem isn't with al gore getting rich. the problem is that he's claiming that we're in a global climate crisis and he's selling snake oil. if he really believed we were in a climate crisis, he would drasticly reduce his carbon footprint AND buy carbon offsets. How do you know that he hasn't? The property isn't new. Any rich person could have bought it. You have no idea of the level of sustainability that is involved in its upkeep under Gore's ownership. For the right wing ignoramuses out there, sustainability does NOT mean abstinence. Everybody funny, now you funny too. Gore obviously has a problem witht the size of his penis. Why else would he need 2 huge homes. I'll bet he drives a 'vette too. Why does Bill Gates? Why did Ken Lay need 8 homes? Why don't you folks go research "sustainability" and report back when you actually know something.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #45 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/photos-al-goree-new-8875_n_579286.html I'm sure this has a minimal carbon footprint. This, along with his mansion in Nashville... He's a common man, looking out for the downtrodden and the polar bears. He's looking out for you! Yeah! So good that he practices as he preaches. he's done extremely well for himself. A fine example of capitalism at work. It always amazes me thats staunch supporters of big business have such a hard time with Al Gore getting rich. Quite frankly, I wish I would have thought of it. One of his companies sells carbon offsets which he "buys" from. What a joke. Carbon offset are snake oil! He is profiting from lies.... end of story. I don't give a rip if he has a huge house but I do care about the bullshit he slings that he cannot back up!Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #46 May 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/photos-al-goree-new-8875_n_579286.html I'm sure this has a minimal carbon footprint. This, along with his mansion in Nashville... He's a common man, looking out for the downtrodden and the polar bears. He's looking out for you! Yeah! So good that he practices as he preaches. he's done extremely well for himself. A fine example of capitalism at work. It always amazes me thats staunch supporters of big business have such a hard time with Al Gore getting rich. Quite frankly, I wish I would have thought of it. One of his companies sells carbon offsets which he "buys" from. What a joke. Carbon offset are snake oil! He is profiting from lies.... end of story. I don't give a rip if he has a huge house but I do care about the bullshit he slings that he cannot back up! Do you believe in SO2 offsets or do you think they are snake oil too?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,133 #47 May 20, 2010 >How many "average" people fly in a private jet? I do; a lot of people do. Sometimes it just works better than flying commercial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #48 May 20, 2010 QuoteEverybody funny, now you funny too. I take it you drink alone; yeah, with nobody else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #49 May 20, 2010 Quote Why don't you folks go research "sustainability" and report back when you actually know something. It takes no research to know that if Americans gravitate to even larger houses, that we'll be even further away from any reasonable claim of sustainability. In 2006, he used 221,000 KWh for his first resident/office. That's 605/day. I average around 15. If you added my office environment in, I doubt that would even double it to 30. And of course the global average is well below 15/day, and still we're said to be well in excess of what the world climate can tolerate. So again, how does adding onto the already ridiculous 600/day make for sustainability. The private flying only adds to this. There are many reasons for private jets, but environmentalism isn't one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #50 May 20, 2010 Quote Why does Bill Gates? If Bill Gates was found to be using Macs, it might be comparable. QuoteWhy did Ken Lay need 8 homes? He didn't. He was a greedy SOB. QuoteWhy don't you folks go research "sustainability" and report back when you actually know something. Sustainability would require that people not do what Gore is doing. This is, of course, unless one wants to grant exceptions to a chosen group whose hearts apparently lie in the right place. In order for Mr. Gore's lifestyle to be sustainable, billions of other people MUST get by on much less. Mr. Gore - and those like him - come from a position of privilege. There will be the requirement for others to lower their energy usage. Not for him. I don't have a problem with inequity. I do have a problem with those who would exempt themselves from the standards they set for others. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
