Obama and guns

[kallend 2,184]

The gun lobby was very vocally anti Obama during the 2008 campaign, foretelling all kinds of horrors that he would impose on gun owners.

So what exactly has Obama done during his term to infringe on the rights of gun owners?

Has he done anything to enhance the rights of gun owners?

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[rushmc 23]

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The gun lobby was very vocally anti Obama during the 2008 campaign, foretelling all kinds of horrors that he would impose on gun owners.

So what exactly has Obama done during his term to infringe on the rights of gun owners?

Has he done anything to enhance the rights of gun owners?

Not that I am aware of
There have been a couple of false things posted that the NRA has debunked

But, whom ever is in office all of our rights bear watching as this gov, as with any gov, should not be trusted

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[millertime24 8]

Other than the fear-drunk sheep buying up all the guns and ammo making it hard for me to buy stuff nothing. In a way, he helped out the gun industry big time through the ammount of sales he inadvertently caused by his very being elected. I will add though, that the industry has seemed to have caught back up and things are showing back up in stock at my local gun stores.

Muff #5048

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Not that I am aware of
There have been a couple of false things posted that the NRA has debunked

But, whom ever is in office all of our rights bear watching as this gov, as with any gov, should not be trusted

The *period (or full stop)* on your keyboard is broken?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[masterrig 1]

I think, all those 'scare tactics' were just to make Obama look bad. During that time, I went to my local hardware store to look at the guns. All around the counter were anti Obama signs and how we were going to lose our guns and blah, blah, blah... I complained to the manager on the principle of keeping politics out of their store. the signs came-down and the clerk got canned.
I really can't see where Obama has done anything either way, in regard to guns. I do believe, he does get swayed by his 'advisors' who want things their way.


Chuck

[kallend 2,184]

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I really can't see where Obama has done anything either way, in regard to guns. I do believe, he does get swayed by his 'advisors' who want things their way.


Chuck

He signed the Act allowing guns in National Parks. I believe that is the only action he has taken relating to guns.

On the whole it seems that the gun lobby scare tactics were misplaced. Not that I expect the scare tactics to stop.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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He signed the Act allowing guns in National Parks. I believe that is the only action he has taken relating to guns.

But no one will assert he would have signed that by itself. It was tagged onto something he wanted.

His lack of action otherwise shouldn't be seen as proof that he's not anti-gun. It's merely the fact that he has bigger problems and like the Democrats overall since the Gore loss, he's not willing to pick a fight on this subject. It doesn't win him any votes he didn't already have, and it costs him votes it looks like he'll need in November.

[rushmc 23]

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Not that I am aware of
There have been a couple of false things posted that the NRA has debunked

But, whom ever is in office all of our rights bear watching as this gov, as with any gov, should not be trusted

The *period (or full stop)* on your keyboard is broken?

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Nope
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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I really can't see where Obama has done anything either way, in regard to guns. I do believe, he does get swayed by his 'advisors' who want things their way.


Chuck

He signed the Act allowing guns in National Parks. I believe that is the only action he has taken relating to guns.

On the whole it seems that the gun lobby scare tactics were misplaced. Not that I expect the scare tactics to stop.

I dont know if they were misplaced
It is a political looser to take on guns and even Obama is smart enough to know that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[airdvr 210]

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The gun lobby was very vocally anti Obama during the 2008 campaign, foretelling all kinds of horrors that he would impose on gun owners.

So what exactly has Obama done during his term to infringe on the rights of gun owners?

Has he done anything to enhance the rights of gun owners?

You assume that he doesn't want to. I assume that he wasn't allowed to.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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I really can't see where Obama has done anything either way, in regard to guns. I do believe, he does get swayed by his 'advisors' who want things their way.


Chuck

He signed the Act allowing guns in National Parks. I believe that is the only action he has taken relating to guns.

On the whole it seems that the gun lobby scare tactics were misplaced. Not that I expect the scare tactics to stop.

I had forgotten that one. Good move on his part.

I haven't bought into the scare tactics. They made no sense to me and well... just sounded like 'scare tactics' One thing I did notice was, the NRA started soliciting money over the phone and even brought out the scare tactics like they were 'real'. They were quite aggressive in their fund raising. I backed away from them, too.


Chuck

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I think, all those 'scare tactics' were just to make Obama look bad. During that time, I went to my local hardware store to look at the guns. All around the counter were anti Obama signs and how we were going to lose our guns and blah, blah, blah... I complained to the manager on the principle of keeping politics out of their store. the signs came-down and the clerk got canned.
I really can't see where Obama has done anything either way, in regard to guns. I do believe, he does get swayed by his 'advisors' who want things their way.


Chuck

Not to give any weight to the scare tactics (I never bought into any of them), but his past anti-gun record was pretty clear.

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Rob

[masterrig 1]

Seems like, he's changed his thinking. In this case... a good thing.


Chuck

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

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The gun lobby was very vocally anti Obama during the 2008 campaign, foretelling all kinds of horrors that he would impose on gun owners.

So what exactly has Obama done during his term to infringe on the rights of gun owners?

Has he done anything to enhance the rights of gun owners?

He hasn't done much(if anything), either way.

The national park thing was attached to the credit card bill he really wanted to sign. I doubt he would have signed it otherwise.

His anti-gun stance as both a Illinois and US Senator was pretty solid anti-gun.
His presidential campaign had a solid anti-gun stance, including wanting to reinstate the "assault weapons" ban.

With the economy, health care and the wars (among a whole lot of other little stuff) he hasn't had the time or political capital to add any anti-gun stuff to the mix.

But I would bet (and heavily) that he would have pushed some gun legislation if the opportunity had been there.

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[Amazon 7]

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One thing I did notice was, the NRA started soliciting money over the phone and even brought out the scare tactics like they were 'real'. They were quite aggressive in their fund raising. I backed away from them, too.

I gave up on those turd-blossoms when they started to only support fringe right idiots that epitomized the far right wing of the GOP.

I have not seen them support anyone OTHER than rePUBIClowns for many years now.

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One thing I did notice was, the NRA started soliciting money over the phone and even brought out the scare tactics like they were 'real'. They were quite aggressive in their fund raising. I backed away from them, too.

I gave up on those turd-blossoms when they started to only support fringe right idiots that epitomized the far right wing of the GOP.

I have not seen them support anyone OTHER than rePUBIClowns for many years now.

It appeared to me that these folks were really trying to do good. Like you, I had faith in them but then they just turned to crap. They hounded me to death, for a donation. Even after repeated requests to remove me from their call list. The guy that did the calling sounded like his nickname was 'Knuckles'!


Chuck

[kelpdiver 2]

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Seems like, he's changed his thinking. In this case... a good thing.

There's no evidence to support that.

It's safe to say that health care reform was far more important to him.

[turtlespeed 226]

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Seems like, he's changed his thinking. In this case... a good thing.


Chuck

I doubt that and there is no evidence of that, it was just a good political move and it kept approval rating from sliding any further in some arenas.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[masterrig 1]

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Seems like, he's changed his thinking. In this case... a good thing.


Chuck

I doubt that and there is no evidence of that, it was just a good political move and it kept approval rating from sliding any further in some arenas.

I guess, I let that one get right by me.


Chuck

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Seems like, he's changed his thinking. In this case... a good thing.

There's no evidence to support that.

It's safe to say that health care reform was far more important to him.

I'd say his political position on guns changed, but that was a requirement to election. I've said many times (even here I think) President Obama won't likely attempt anything on the political front wrt guns in his first term. And the DNC would likely reign him in if he were to try something in a second term (should he be elected again).

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Rob

[NewGuy2005 53]

Just yesterday, during his ridiculous dog and pony show with the president of Mexico, he proposed that the ban on assault rifles be reinstated.

[rhaig 0]

it's the "let's do something so we don't look like we're doing nothing" play

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Rob

[Andy9o8 3]

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Just yesterday, during his ridiculous dog and pony show with the president of Mexico, he proposed that the ban on assault rifles be reinstated.

Well, that's one thing, but if he tries banning RPGs, I'm taking my rage to the streets.

[rushmc 23]

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Just yesterday, during his ridiculous dog and pony show with the president of Mexico, he proposed that the ban on assault rifles be reinstated.

Well, that's one thing, but if he tries banning RPGs, I'm taking my rage to the streets.

You will look very lonely and foolish if you do

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 3]

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Just yesterday, during his ridiculous dog and pony show with the president of Mexico, he proposed that the ban on assault rifles be reinstated.

Well, that's one thing, but if he tries banning RPGs, I'm taking my rage to the streets.

You will look very lonely and foolish if you do

Indeed; without my trusty RPG I'd feel quite naked.