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the point of my posts have been even though Republicans can turn out to be hypocrites when they get caught in a sex scandal, at least they are advocating family values.

Democrats don't even try. A broken family adds to their voting base. When was the last time you heard about a Liberal talking about family values?

And lets get off the oil kick in this thread. It's supposed to be about family values and sex scandals. Quit misdirecting.

You are kidding right????? Having affairs is "family values"?????????

Getting ass fucked in airport bathrooms or the all too oft seen christian sexcapades is family values?????

I spose a little incest with their offspring is a great way to demonstrate family values to the next generation of young rePUBLIClowns too??????

That seems to be the "family values" a hell of a lot of rePUBICLowns seem to be demonstrating to others these days.

Holy fuck man....... http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

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the point of my posts have been even though Republicans can turn out to be hypocrites when they get caught in a sex scandal, at least they are advocating family values.

Democrats don't even try. A broken family adds to their voting base. When was the last time you heard about a Liberal talking about family values?

And lets get off the oil kick in this thread. It's supposed to be about family values and sex scandals. Quit misdirecting.

You are kidding right????? Having affairs is "family values"?????????

Getting ass fucked in airport bathrooms or the all too oft seen christian sexcapades is family values?????

I spose a little incest with their offspring is a great way to demonstrate family values to the next generation of young rePUBLIClowns too??????

That seems to be the "family values" a hell of a lot of rePUBICLowns seem to be demonstrating to others these days.

Holy fuck man....... http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

I'm not saying do as they do. Are you saying everyone should be single parents? Holy fuck man....

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>The T-Boone Pickens plan has nothing to do with wars.

Then I guess your claim that it is "all of the above" is incorrect, since "wars for oil" is what was right above that statement.

However, if you meant we need to incorporate all our available resources to meet our energy needs, then I agree. We should prioritize those energy sources that do not require fossil fuels, since they are a big part of the problem.

>Or are you trying to change the subject because you can't admit that
>liberals don't care about family values?

Generally I find that the statement "liberals don't care about family values" is followed closely by "GOP senator discovered having sex with gay prostitute; wife and children in tears."

>When the liberals come up with a plan to help with the single parents
>on welfare dilemma, let me know.

?? Liberals have; many single parents currently get assistance from the federal government. Conservatives apparently just want to let them die. I prefer the liberal solution to that (although it is surely not perfect.)

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And lets get off the oil kick in this thread. It's supposed to be about family values and sex scandals. Quit misdirecting.

Ummm - YOU brought up T Boone Pickens, not me. More intellectual dishonesty. You're on a roll.

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the point of my posts have been even though Republicans can turn out to be hypocrites when they get caught in a sex scandal, at least they are advocating family values.

Sauce for jGoose is sauce for Al Gore too.

At least Al Gore is advocating for energy efficiency and a reduced carbon footprint. So even if he's not perfect, he still admirable, right?

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the point of my posts have been even though Republicans can turn out to be hypocrites when they get caught in a sex scandal, at least they are advocating family values.

Democrats don't even try. A broken family adds to their voting base. When was the last time you heard about a Liberal talking about family values?

And lets get off the oil kick in this thread. It's supposed to be about family values and sex scandals. Quit misdirecting.

You are kidding right????? Having affairs is "family values"?????????

Getting ass fucked in airport bathrooms or the all too oft seen christian sexcapades is family values?????

I spose a little incest with their offspring is a great way to demonstrate family values to the next generation of young rePUBLIClowns too??????

That seems to be the "family values" a hell of a lot of rePUBICLowns seem to be demonstrating to others these days.

Holy fuck man....... http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

I'm not saying do as they do. Are you saying everyone should be single parents? Holy fuck man....

HOLY FUCK MAN..... when ever I hear that idiocy issue from a "conservative" politicians or clergymans mouth......its just CODE SPEAK for "I am one fucked up perverted som of a bitch"...... DO AS I SAY.... Not as I want to do..... because I abuse my power over all you sinners, but I am forgiven because I am in church now on a Sunday morning getting my weekly absolution and therefor am more perfect in the eyes of god than you.

I guess it takes the closeted twisted fucks among us to TRULY know what is perverted( probably learned about that in church too).... so they know about the family values they are not living by.

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But this time, it's not gay sex. Just heterosexual sex with an employee. The hypocrisy is that he preached abstinence education.

Are you sure he's a republican? I thought they only had sex in airport men's rooms.

Hey, Larry Craig didn't have gay sex, he just has a wide stance when he shits

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R's clean house
Dems re-elect them

R's clean house? WTF are you talking about? Larry Craig refused to resign and the cowardly R Party wasn't even talking impeachment, not even censure.

Shall we talk Scooter Libby and his communtation? Clean house - bull fucking shit.

FAIL.

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A Republican sex hypocrite

"Do as I say and not as I do".

I bet that's never happened before.

But if a Democrat does it It's "Oh well."

If Joe Biden was to have gay sex in an airport it would be "Oh well, that's Joe, It's OK, he's a democrat."

It's only bad if republicans do it. Didn't you learn anything from John Edwards?

EXACTLY, because D's accept gays or any people who cheat, etc. It's the nuts on teh right who don't, hence box themselves into a corner. Glad you figured it out; the higher you raise the bar, even if it's a pseudo raising, the higher you must jump.

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It's only bad if republicans do it. Didn't you learn anything from John Edwards?

I'll go as far as to say, anymore, it's only mildly interesting when any politician does it. What's more interesting is when they tell us it's bad, don't do it, then they do it.

Did John Edwards preach abstinence from the pulpit? Did he have his lover interview him about what a great guy he was for being so abstinent? John Edwards isn't any better than this guy, just less interesting.

And less hypocritical.

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But you can tell me yet again how I cant think for myself

I will, as long as you keep telling me you know what I think about every issue in world politics because I voted for Obama in 2008.

Still puttin words in others mouths to try and save your point

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Still puttin words in others mouths to try and save your point

But your saying that Democrats believe people can't and shouldn't take care of themselves is not putting words in other people's mouths?

Gimme a break.

Oh wait, your response will be, "According to their votes." Very profound. Also not backed by any analysis or evidence from you, just a regurgitation of what you've been told to say.

Expanding food stamps
Expanding unemployment benifits

Good job too, or the BUSH RECESSION would have had people starving when their benefits ran out.

You seem to conveniently ignore that YOUR guy was President during the bank melt-down, the mortgage crisis and a 25% drop in the stock market over his 8 years in office.

And the bogus wars, and the 5T addition to the debt.

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This recession started in Dec 2007. YOUR GUY was president (or have you forgotten).

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And YOUR guys controlled Congress and the purse strings (or have you forgotten).

HUH? The Senate was a 49-49-2 split with fat Cheney as the tie breaker where he cast the 1tth most tie breaks of 47 VP's if memory serves. You mean the Dems controlled the House for tha last 2 years, yes we know.

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You have a very warped sense of history.

You don't understand how congress works. GWB vetoed 1 bill in 5.5 years and it was a stem cell bill, not a financial one. Then the D's come in and fight your dictator and cause him to veto 11 more, 4 were overridden giving him an overall 33% override rate (really higher if you count the dems 4 of 11) which I think was 3rd highest of all time since Washington.

So you say the dems did nothing? They kept your beloved dictator in check as well as they could with a small House lead and tie in the Senate.

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And YOUR guys controlled Congress and the purse strings (or have you forgotten).

And exactly what great things did Bush accomplish when the R's dominated congress as well?

GWB was able to successfully veto the children's HC Bill, which that evil demon Obama and the congressional Dems passed 2 weeks in. GWB did great things

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TURTLESPEED: He succeeded in not pushing the national dept into the trillions.

AMAZON: DUUUUUUUDE... maths is your friend...delusion is not.

I agree that it was a record deficit, but it was hardly over a trillion.

TURTLESPEED: Reality isn't your strong point, or are you just living in one that survives only in your head?


Ok, you first posted the debt (dept), the national debt. Amazon asks WTF you are talking about and then you support your claim by making reference to the deficit.

Here’s’ my question: Do you know the difference between the debt and a deficit?

DEFICIT = annual increase

DEBT = overall tally

In your first assertion, did you mean to say: ‘He succeeded in not pushing the annual deficit into the trillions.’ Or do you really know what you’re talking about? Because GWB DID manage to push the national debt into the trillions; 5 or so.

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Sorry but your Clown in Chief. ran up TRILLIONS in deficits.

And yours is hell-bent on doubling it in record time - this is supposed to be an improvement?

ANYTHING has to be an improvement.... If I ran my finances the way you guys ran shit since 1981..... I would just do the world a favor... and blow my fucking brains out.

You might want to pull that last sentence out, seeing as how your guy is doing EXACTLY that and even more than the Reps. While I don't agree with your ideology, I'd miss you if you weren't around anymore.

Really? Even your heroes at the Heritage Foundation are honest enough to post this graph: http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/growth-federal-spending-revenue Why won't you be?

Spending is down and revs are way up. Sorry, it's not hard to read, no words, just pics for you, Mike.

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I know exactly what "hypocrisy" means. That is not the point. Any time a republican gets in a moral scandal the liberals attack with the work "hypocrisy."

For fuck's sake, you answered your own point and cannot even see that. The R's are homophobes via their agenda, they do something gay, they are hypocrites. The D's are generally more gay-friendly, they do something gay, they aren't hypocrites.

Cheating on spouses falls under the same basis as the D's understand, teh R's want to hang people and establish covenant marriages, etc.

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I agree that it was a record deficit, but it was hardly over a trillion.

Reality isn't your strong point, or are you just living in one that survives only in your head?

First you talk about national debt, then when that gets refuted, you return with an article on budget deficit.

Do you even realize there is a difference?

Either you are being deliberately obtuse, or you have no clue.....

I posted this exact thing before I read yours. They really don't get it, they just parrot their heroes, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc and don't even do a perfect job of that.

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I agree that it was a record deficit, but it was hardly over a trillion.

Reality isn't your strong point, or are you just living in one that survives only in your head?

First you talk about national debt, then when that gets refuted, you return with an article on budget deficit.

Do you even realize there is a difference?

Either you are being deliberately obtuse, or you have no clue.....

No - I misread the post that I responded to.
I read it as "increased".

No you didn't, you first responded by citing a debt, called it a National dept but we know what ya meant. Then you referenced a deficit. That's your fuck-up; nice try to divert.

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Not surprisingly, according to CDC data obesity rates ARE higher in the "red states".

So are teen pregnancy rates, STD rates, divorce rates, etc. I guess the US is falling apart socially, but it's "all 'dem liburals."

Just an added note, this guy was completely 100% anti-gay (against hate crimes legislation, civil marriage for same sex couples, for the defense of marriage act and the constitutional ban on marriage for same sex couples).

Apparently the claim for the protection of the "sanctity of marriage" didn't apply to his own, as he found it completely appropriate to bop (at least one) of his staffers.

That, my friends, is one definition of hypocrisy - and it always comes from the "family values republican christians."

But he's no where a pathetic as Newt Gingrich leading the impeachment proceedings against Clinton for getting sex and lying about it. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258001,00.html

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair, he acknowledged in an interview with a conservative Christian group.


So here we go, now the drones on here are gonna tell us that the impeachment was about perjury, etc. We know it was the Paula Jones witchhunt that propagated this. Mr Family Values fucked someone other than his wife, so can we just consider as judicial notice that the R's are hypocrites? What did teh D's do after Larry "wide stance" Craig admitted in court to lewd conduct? Did they move for removal? No, so just understand that this is why the R's are hypocrites and move on.

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So, Congressman Souder is underage, that preaching abstinence education is somehow hypocritical?

Relevance fail.

Nope no hypocrisy there

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Souder was elected to the United States House of Representatives as a Republican in January 1995, and was re-elected in every election thereafter until his resignation in 2010. This is the only elected office he has ever held. He originally ran on a signed pledge with America that he would not serve more than two additional terms.[OOPS number 1 ] He is regarded as a staunch advocate of abstinence education and family values.[OOPS number 2]

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On May 18, 2010, Souder announced he would resign from Congress effective Friday, May 21, after admitting to an affair with Tracy Jackson, a female staffer. Famously, he and Ms. Jackson had made a public video in which they both extolled the virtues of abstinence.[OOPS Number 3] In a written statement released that morning, Souder said:

It is with great regret I announce that I am resigning from the U.S. House of Representatives as well as resigning as the Republican nominee for Congress in this fall's election....I sinned against God, my wife and my family by having a mutual relationship with a part time member of my staff. I am so shamed to have hurt those I love.[13]
Souder deviated from his written statement when reading it aloud to the Fort Wayne press later in the morning to explain why, unlike many legislators admitting adultery, he did not have his wife of 30 years at his side:

"I'm sick of politicians who drag their spouses up in front of the cameras rather than confronting the problem they caused."[16]

YES vote one of 296
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Vote 296-133-3 On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114) - 10 October 2002, 3:05 PM

Souder also applied for non-combatant status during the Vietnam War on religious grounds. OOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPS

BUT BUT BUT

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He became the fourth Republican U.S. Congressman to call for Idaho Republican Senator Larry Craig's resignation after the discovery of lewd activities in a Minneapolis/St. Paul airport restroom and subsequent allegations questioning Craig's sexuality. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSS

In October 2007, in the Fort Wayne, Indiana mayoral race, Souder endorsed fellow Republican Matt Kelty. Souder, however, withdrew his official support for Kelty in October 2007 because of Kelty's campaign finance law problems and a birthday cake frosted with a crude joke given to Kelty by several Republicans which garnered controversy. Souder said that the joke cake was "immature."

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On February 9, 2007, Souder appeared as a guest on MSNBC's The Situation With Tucker Carlson.[22] Souder was asked specifically why marijuana is such a focus of anti-drug campaigns. Of today's marijuana, in regard to its addictiveness and THC content, Souder said that "the destruction in your brain cells, is more like coke or crack than it is like the old time marijuana." Souder said that the high THC content of today's marijuana makes it much stronger than "the ditch weed" of the 1960s and 1970s. The congressman later went on to say "No drug user is a single drug user" and "a marijuana user is very seldom just a casual marijuana user", to which Carlson said that, based upon users he knows, Souder was wrong.

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So, Congressman Souder is underage, that preaching abstinence education is somehow hypocritical?

Relevance fail.

Nope no hypocrisy there

Mark Souder

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Souder was elected to the United States House of Representatives as a Republican in January 1995, and was re-elected in every election thereafter until his resignation in 2010. This is the only elected office he has ever held. He originally ran on a signed pledge with America that he would not serve more than two additional terms.[OOPS number 1 ] He is regarded as a staunch advocate of abstinence education and family values.[OOPS number 2]

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On May 18, 2010, Souder announced he would resign from Congress effective Friday, May 21, after admitting to an affair with Tracy Jackson, a female staffer. Famously, he and Ms. Jackson had made a public video in which they both extolled the virtues of abstinence.[OOPS Number 3] In a written statement released that morning, Souder said:

It is with great regret I announce that I am resigning from the U.S. House of Representatives as well as resigning as the Republican nominee for Congress in this fall's election....I sinned against God, my wife and my family by having a mutual relationship with a part time member of my staff. I am so shamed to have hurt those I love.[13]
Souder deviated from his written statement when reading it aloud to the Fort Wayne press later in the morning to explain why, unlike many legislators admitting adultery, he did not have his wife of 30 years at his side:

"I'm sick of politicians who drag their spouses up in front of the cameras rather than confronting the problem they caused."[16]

YES vote one of 296
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Vote 296-133-3 On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114) - 10 October 2002, 3:05 PM

Souder also applied for non-combatant status during the Vietnam War on religious grounds. OOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPS

BUT BUT BUT

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He became the fourth Republican U.S. Congressman to call for Idaho Republican Senator Larry Craig's resignation after the discovery of lewd activities in a Minneapolis/St. Paul airport restroom and subsequent allegations questioning Craig's sexuality. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSS

In October 2007, in the Fort Wayne, Indiana mayoral race, Souder endorsed fellow Republican Matt Kelty. Souder, however, withdrew his official support for Kelty in October 2007 because of Kelty's campaign finance law problems and a birthday cake frosted with a crude joke given to Kelty by several Republicans which garnered controversy. Souder said that the joke cake was "immature."

HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On February 9, 2007, Souder appeared as a guest on MSNBC's The Situation With Tucker Carlson.[22] Souder was asked specifically why marijuana is such a focus of anti-drug campaigns. Of today's marijuana, in regard to its addictiveness and THC content, Souder said that "the destruction in your brain cells, is more like coke or crack than it is like the old time marijuana." Souder said that the high THC content of today's marijuana makes it much stronger than "the ditch weed" of the 1960s and 1970s. The congressman later went on to say "No drug user is a single drug user" and "a marijuana user is very seldom just a casual marijuana user", to which Carlson said that, based upon users he knows, Souder was wrong.

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But Mike has redefined hypocrisy. As long as you PREACH conservative dogma you can't be a hypocrite regardless of what you do.

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But Mike we dizzy-dot liberals has have redefined hypocrisy. As long as you PREACH aren't conservative dogma you can't be a hypocrite regardless of what you do.

Fixed that for you, perfesser - I know that you have comprehension problems whenever values are discussed.

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But Mike we dizzy-dot liberals has have redefined hypocrisy. As long as you PREACH aren't conservative dogma you can't be a hypocrite regardless of what you do.

Fixed that for you, perfesser - I know that you have comprehension problems whenever values are discussed.

Lame.

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Both of you cut it out.