rhys 0 #1 May 14, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRUso7Nf3s&feature=player_embedded Be careful what you beleive, don't let peer pressure and bigotry dissuade you from seeking the truth. Seek the truth, be strong and bite back. Our future depends on it!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #2 May 14, 2010 Sorry to dissappoint you, but I support the scientific method, not the half-assed backyard experiments shown in that video.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 May 14, 2010 QuoteSorry to dissappoint you, but I support the scientific method, not the half-assed backyard experiments shown in that video. If those experiments are half assed and yours are some much more involved, can you direct me to a reference to your experiments please. I would be delighted to have the deeper understanding that you have. it is just your bigotry to date has clouded your professional viewpoint. If you think these experiments are half assed, can you at least explain why, they seem to be in in line with thier hypothesis. What experiments are your hypothesis supported by? The statement that global collapse is inevitable? That is not an experiement nor a scientific aproach to the problem. To date I cannot recall any experiments that show that fire could allow such momentum to occur? Can you please clarify?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 May 14, 2010 yubetube and science don't really belong in the same sentence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #5 May 14, 2010 QuoteCan you please clarify? Yes. Search the lengthy thread on 911 you started. All the answers you seek are contained within...most many times over.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 May 14, 2010 QuoteSorry to dissappoint you, but I support the scientific method, not the half-assed backyard experiments shown in that video. Lemme guess - the "Loose Screws" crowd released another video?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #7 May 14, 2010 QuoteYes. Search the lengthy thread on 911 you started. All the answers you seek are contained within...most many times over. So you are unable to? That thread and the previous have too many personal attacks, bigotry and emotions. I am going to use diplomatic and open minded approach to this one. Feel free to make a link or repost your findngs. You started off on a bad foot last time assuming I was a radiophobe or such, one that makes such assumtions should not be taken seriously, as we all know what assumtions are the mother of..."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #8 May 14, 2010 QuoteLemme guess - the "Loose Screws" crowd released another video? Bigot!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #9 May 14, 2010 Quoteyubetube and science don't really belong in the same sentence. How is video presentation not a suitable means of explanation? Would you rather read a thesis?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #10 May 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteYes. Search the lengthy thread on 911 you started. All the answers you seek are contained within...most many times over. So you are unable to? That thread and the previous have too many personal attacks, bigotry and emotions. I am going to use diplomatic and open minded approach to this one. Feel free to make a link or repost your findngs. You started off on a bad foot last time assuming I was a radiophobe or such, one that makes such assumtions should not be taken seriously, as we all know what assumtions are the mother of... Answer this for everyone here: Why should any of us continue to respond to your same questions over and over and over? You always ask the same questions, we give the same answers. Go back and find them.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #11 May 14, 2010 QuoteAnswer this for everyone here: Why should any of us continue to respond to your same questions over and over and over? You always ask the same questions, we give the same answers. Go back and find them. You say you answered the queston; but you failed to say where. You say you use the scientific method to make your assertions, but you fail to say how or give a direct recource to the information. You have called me many names, and you have called Stephen Jones, David Ray Griffin, David Chandler, Richard Gage... all liers and frauds and unscientific... David ray Griffin has been nominated for 2 nobel peace prizes in the last few years. Richard has the following of 1200 other architects and engineers. All these guys have concise and thourough information with valid and bonafide recources to go with them. All those guys have spent untold amounts of time producing peer reviewed journals, books, articles and numeroud other recources and you fail to acknowledge them other than calling them loonies. What have you got other than violence and personal attacks? I would like to know why we should take you seriously? You fail to show us any evidence of the scientific method, bigotry is not scientific and that is your apporach to the subject. You claim to be a engineer but you fail to show us your understanding of the subject with well written and easily understood answers. Questions are not answers, and personal attacks give me no reason to take you seriously. We are both guilty of using violence to try to offend each other and I appologise to you and everyone here for doing that while talking about this subject. It is very important that we all understand clearly what happened that day as the repercussions are effecting us exponentially in negative and sometimes irreversable ways. The 9/11 mystery is far from over, there is no bonafide culprit and there seem to be no real attemt to produce one. This is why it is important that you take this seriously, you can say whatever you want about me to me, but tha does not clarify the situation any. Lets start with a clean slate, and discuss rationally and diplomatically what our viewpoints are. Remeber this thread is about who is using the scientific method and who is basing their hypothesis on assumtion."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #12 May 14, 2010 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #13 May 14, 2010 QuoteYour one warning. Cut it out. explain. I assume it is for calling M. a bigot? How would you rephraise that within the rules, if you were me? an example please. Is calling me a tin foil hatter the same thing?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 May 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteYour one warning. Cut it out. explain. Does calling somebody a bigot really NEED an explanation? Come on.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #15 May 14, 2010 QuoteDoes calling somebody a bigot really NEED an explanation? Come on. Where is the line drwan? If i say you are wrong when I beleive you are wrong, is that a personal attack?\ I'm not being a smart ass, I want to know these things to avoid a repeat warning! I take the defintion of words quite literally."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 May 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteDoes calling somebody a bigot really NEED an explanation? Come on. Where is the line drwan? If i say you are wrong when I beleive you are wrong, is that a personal attack? Except that's not what you did. You called the man a bigot. THAT is a personal (meaning him personally, not his ideas) attack. Say you don't like his ideas all you want. If you can find proof his ideas are faulty and document them as such, all the better, but you MAY NOT attack the individual. That's no longer a discussion of the issues, but a personal attack. Actually calling someone a bigot, using the actual word itself, is a fairly serious charge.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #17 May 14, 2010 QuoteExcept that's not what you did. You called the man a bigot. THAT is a personal (meaning him personally, not his ideas) attack. Say you don't like his ideas all you want. If you can find proof his ideas are faulty and document them as such, all the better, but you MAY NOT attack the individual. That's no longer a discussion of the issues, but a personal attack. So calling me a tin foil hatter does constitute a personal attack then? I request that you and the other mods show some continuity when expressing the rules and warning people. That would save me some time and will help eliminate such re-occurances. Thank you for your explanation."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 May 14, 2010 QuoteSo calling me a tin foil hatter constitutes a personal attack then? Link the incident. I have neither the time nor patience to follow all the squabbles here and keep them in a file for future reference. If you ever feel wronged by somebody, mention it at the time it happens. Mentioning it out of context is rather pointless.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #19 May 14, 2010 QuoteLink the incident. I have neither the time nor patience to follow all the squabbles here and keep them in a file for future reference. If you ever feel wronged by somebody, mention it at the time it happens. Mentioning it out of context is rather pointless. I could go back and link them for you, there would be much more than 100 accounts of this. I don't intend on doing that, i was just pointing that out to the readers here to try to show them (you know who you are) that they are breaking the rules when making such comments. That type of behaviour is pure bigotry. Peer pressure and this type of name calling is partially responsable for the 'powers that be' getting away with the mass murder of 9/11 and the resulting wars. If we were allowed to express our freedom of speech and utilise our right to question without such bigotry from the start. Many people indeed may still be alive today, that are not."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 May 14, 2010 Just because somebody disagrees with your opinion, doesn't make them a bigot. Now, I don't know what connotation the actual word bigot has in your country, but where some people on this forum come from, it's kind of a put up or shut up, fighting words term. You do yourself no favors by using it to attempt to support your case unless you're talking about an actual bigot such as a member or the KKK or Nazi Party. Understand, we have some folks here that would be justifiably pissed off about the term and if you used it to their face, well, your face would be in danger of impact by a fist or two. Tone that one down, okay?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #21 May 14, 2010 Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRUso7Nf3s&feature=player_embedded Be careful what you beleive, don't let peer pressure and bigotry dissuade you from seeking the truth. Seek the truth, be strong and bite back. Our future depends on it! Belief is anathema to scientific method. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #22 May 14, 2010 Arguing with the mods is not very smart. It will almost always come back to bite you in the ass when you least expect it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #23 May 14, 2010 Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRUso7Nf3s&feature=player_embedded Be careful what you beleive, don't let peer pressure and bigotry dissuade you from seeking the truth. Seek the truth, be strong and bite back. Our future depends on it! The most wide reaching conspiracies in my lifetime have been the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Watergate scandal. Neither of those remained secret because no one can keep a secret for very long. The number of people required to destroy the WTC towers with explosives would be extensive. After all this time someone would have spilled the beans. It is human nature. Guilt and or financial gain would be motivators to reveal the plot. Since the 9/11 tragedy occurred on President Bush's watch, the Democratic Party would benefit politically if they could prove conspiracy. It hasn't happened. They have the resources and have produced no conclusive evidence to the contrary of accepted belief. At this juncture, Islamic terrorists attacked the U.S.A. in an open gesture of war inciting a global response.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #24 May 14, 2010 As I asked in your previous thread(s): Where is the audio of the explosions? I had posted several examples of very loud and obvious explosions from a very reputable source called Youtube."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #25 May 14, 2010 If you weren't so predudiced against the US and its people, your mind might be opened just a little. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
